Clay Fulgurites

[Geo Heretic]

Hello wonderful people!
I have been trying to figure out the best way to present observations I have made in hopes of helping the Electric Universe concept.

I work in residential construction, so I have unique access to foundation cuts (8-9 ft holes dug into the ground) and open dirt piles. Most of the dirt is a loess clay that seems to capture lightning strikes. I find a variety of what I think are fulgurites, but I can not find much research done on them.
There are cylinder types that have alternating concentric banding of iron oxide to magnesium oxide typically with a hollow center. Sometimes they will surround a small root hair from a plant. I call them mini Birkland currents.
Other forms are spheroids. Some are almost perfect round, some are globby, some have spikes, most are voidic inside with slight banding visible. The void inside almost looks crystallin in some, while others will have dendrites and siderite micro spherules. It is not uncommon to find "dog bone" or double sphere types. Some of the spheres look like known moons, asteroids, and comets in out solar system... so this is where the EU starts to come in. Electric discharge processes should work at scale, so what if these concretions that I find in eastern Nebraska are scaled evidence that the Earth and our universe are formed entirely by electric process?

Here is a link of just a few of the things I have collected. [https://imgur.com/a/9hF0O0x]

Hope this is interesting enough! Any suggestions on how to best present this stuff are appreciated.

Geo Hereitc

[Brigit]

Geo Heretic says » "Hello wonderful people!
I have been trying to figure out the best way to present observations I have made in hopes of helping the Electric Universe concept.

I work in residential construction, so I have unique access to foundation cuts (8-9 ft holes dug into the ground) and open dirt piles. Most of the dirt is a loess clay that seems to capture lightning strikes. I find a variety of what I think are fulgurites, but I can not find much research done on them."

Hello GeoHeretic.

I enjoyed your rock collection from Nebraska, quite a lot! These are the kinds of rocks you might possibly expect from smaller storm-type lightning discharges (I have a fulgurite from what was likely a positive lightning bolt that is much larger than those), but they could also be from the very edges of the enormous planetary discharges of long ago.

You asked how to go about sharing your field work/rock collection, and I can think of several ways from the top of my head.
Science papers can be quantitative descriptions or qualitative descriptions, so if you like, you can write up a paper that shares the basic dimensions, structures and minerals of these rocks, and compare them perhaps with known electrically created spheres and fulgurites.

You can print them up in several ways:

1. The John Chappell Natural Philosophy Society has a yearly membership, and a template for publication, upon passing a review.

2. Put your final description under the "Picture of the Day" section of the Forum. This is no longer really active, but it does say,

• "Hundreds of TPODs have been published since the summer of 2004. In particular, we invite discussion of present and recent TPODs, perhaps with additional links to earlier TPOD pages. Suggestions for future pages will be welcome. Effective TPOD drafts will be MORE than welcome and could be your opportunity to become a more active part of the Thunderbolts team."

As I said, PotDs are no longer active, but that is a place on the forum where you can share "as a draft" with others here on the forum, or to continue study what was already covered in a PotD.

3. Another route may be to relate the evidence of electrical sculpting of the landscape in your region, and place your rocks in a larger context. Perhaps you might be able to start an "Electric Nebraska" thread on "Planetary Science." Field work in each state could keep at least 50 of us quite busy. There are some incredible statements about plasma discharge scarring on this site and on holoscience as you know, going all the way back to the earliest PotDs; there is Dave Talbott's excellent Mars Series; and so on, as well as continued experiments featured in Space News, for references and as a guide. I like the Electric Nebraska idea myself.

4. One member here has offered to help publish papers. He is in Belarus and is for hire. That might be interesting.

Those are just a few ideas. Thanks, hope that helps. P.

[Brigit]

By the way, I am very interested in the rock that surrounds the small root.

Would you mind sharing up close pictures, or pictures using a microscope?




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[Geo Heretic]

Brigit,
Thank you for the help. I will try my best to do something in an Electric Nebraska type thread. The cylinder types, i.m.o., directly correlate with the hoodoos at Grand Escalante N.P., where discharge forces altered the sediment, and then erosion worked away any loose material to reveal the formations. If this is correct, then that would lead to the possibility that the hoodoos at Toadstool geologic Park in Nebraska had a similar origin. In the same respect, I have found formations that look similar to Nebraska's Chimney Rock, suggesting it's formation has an electric origin as well.
Here are a some more pictures. Most of this material was found in either Douglas or Sarpy County in Eastern NE.
It is a beautiful day out, so I'm going to try to make some agates with an arc welder and sand!

https://imgur.com/a/ciwZpTh

[Brigit]

GeoHeretic says, https://imgur.com/a/ciwZpTh

Wow, thank you for posting the pictures. I have seen descriptions of roots inside of iron formations with banding. Geologists have a tendency to want to attribute the formation of some rocks to chemicals from a plant or nucleus. In various descriptions I have seen, they say that ages ago, the chemicals from a root or some other biologic nucleus formed the banding and hardened the rock.

Your picture looks like a living root that took advantage of a nice little source of water and oxygen, within the cylinder. They may have conveniently extrapolated a root forming the rock in the distant past.

The iron oxide lamination is very promising for an electrical interpretation. Is that lime matrix, or is it crumbly sandstone? Sorry, I just could not tell for sure.

Let us know how your arc welder likes the sand! It's been a while !

PS, On Chimney Rock -- I have a good Thunderbolts PotD to share on a similar formation when I find it.

[Brigit]

Here's a PotD describing the pulling up and lithification of surrounding minerals and sands by a gigantic electric discharge.

Anomalous Geography: Tall Towers
Picture of the Day
Dec 12, 2017
The Karakoram Mountains from the International Space Station. Credit: NASA. Click to enlarge.




Vertical cliffs around the world are not easy to explain.

The Karakoram mountains are one of the largest mountain ranges on Earth, extending from Pakistan to India and into China. Among its largest peaks is K2, an 8600 meter massif that once was considered impossible to climb. Great Trango Tower is an example of contradictory morphology when it comes to the consensus view of erosion. It is a granite monolith 6286 meters high. A distinguishing feature of the tower is the world’s highest almost vertical drop at 1340 meters. Only Mount Thor on Baffin Island is truly vertical, with a 1250 meter drop straight down. These giant pylons show little debris at their feet, begging the question of uniformitarian erosion.

Great Trango is thought to be a “pluton”, an intrusion of molten rock that rose from deep in Earth’s crust, melting its way through sedimentary rock strata before solidifying just beneath the surface. The sediment layers, being softer rock, subsequently eroded away, leaving the hard granite exposed. Conventional geologists attribute Great Trango’s youthful look to the overburden that “protected” it from weathering over millions of years.

At first blush, the idea seems reasonable. After all, no rain or windblown sand could scour buried plutons, in general. However, there are logical inconsistencies. The most pressing dilemma is that the sedimentary rocks are nowhere to be seen. There is little silt in the nearby lakes. Since they have no outlets, and are filled by snowmelt each year, what happened to the megatons of sediment that should have clogged them to capacity over the eons?

If Great Trango and other peaks were exposed over millions of years by weathering, why are their summits not more heavily eroded than their basements? Presumably, subzero temperatures caused “freeze and thaw” erosion, along with hurricane-force winds bombarding them with sandy grit for thousands of centuries. So, why do they appear as if they emerged from their stoney encasements a short time ago?

The aciculate mountains of Patagonia, reveal similar oddities: lakes with no outlets and no silt; vertical cliffs with multiple terraces up their sides; layering in the hardest igneous rocks; flat-topped mesas with hundreds of potholes; narrow valleys containing no sedimentary debris; blind canyons; and mountain ranges in concentric rings that contradict conventional uniformitarian thinking.

Electric Universe theory postulates a catastrophic interplay of celestial forces that are not seen today. As mentioned in previous Picture of the Day articles, electric arcs dissected continental geography, creating what traditional theories say are ages-old structures in an instant of time.

Tornadoes of electric fire writhed across the face of the Earth, excavating canyons, ocean basins, and river valleys. Inland seas evaporated, leaving scorched and naked stone behind. Intense electrodynamic forces compressed material out of the surrounding region, creating uplifts that are mistaken for intrusions when they are actually extrusions.

Since electricity is a pulling force and does not “impact” the surface, anomalous formations like Great Trango Tower are the result of gigantic secondary discharges that rose up to meet oppositely charged leader strokes descending from above. As they projected upward, the secondary bolts melted surrounding rock strata, pulling charged and neutral matter into the discharge channel and launching it upward, perhaps all the way to outer space. Rocks and other materials were also vaporized, condensing into ultra fine dust that ionic winds blew away.

Stephen Smith
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[Geo Heretic]

That last set of pictures were still in the loess soils. There seems to be some color change to grey with certain amounts of alteration. Soil color can indicate possible formations. A clean even brown usually means no action, but light brown to grey will typically have formations in it.
Local sandstones and sand pits? That is a whole other, wild, story...