The Electric Earth

Historic planetary instability and catastrophe. Evidence for electrical scarring on planets and moons. Electrical events in today's solar system. Electric Earth.
Lloyd
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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:57 pm

I added more info about the ionosphere at https://electricastrophysics.substack.com/p/ionosphere and included a reference at the end to Dave Smith's paper on the space shuttle Columbia disaster, which may have been caused by megalightning in the ionosphere.

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by Cargo » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:25 am

The machine AI web crawler spirit has much to learn. But it is good at digging. Electricity (and the effect) is Infinite in the Universe, depending on your capacity and resistance.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes
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Solar Proton Storm Effect on Lightning on Earth?

Unread post by Maol » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:41 pm

Do you think this proton flux impact map could be related to this lightning strike map
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Description of the CME and proton storm in this Space Weather link.
https://www.spaceweather.com/archive.ph ... &year=2025

Interactive Lightning Strike Map here
https://www.lightningmaps.org/#

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Re: Solar Proton Storm Effect on Lightning on Earth?

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:51 am

Is there a date for the first map? If the dates are the same, then I just see a lighter blue circular area on the top map that is about where the lightning strikes are on the bottom one.

Copilot says:

Yes, there is a connection between proton flux impacts and lightning strikes on Earth. High-energy particles, such as protons from solar activity, can influence Earth's atmosphere and potentially play a role in triggering lightning. Here's how:

Cosmic Ray and Solar Proton Effects: When high-energy protons from solar flares or cosmic rays enter Earth's atmosphere, they can ionize air molecules. This ionization increases the conductivity of the atmosphere, which can enhance the conditions for lightning formation.

Electromagnetic Waves and Lightning: Lightning itself generates electromagnetic waves that can interact with charged particles in Earth's magnetosphere. These interactions can disturb the Van Allen radiation belts, causing energetic particles to precipitate into the atmosphere. This creates a feedback loop between space weather and terrestrial weather.

While the exact mechanisms are still being studied, the interplay between space weather (like proton flux) and Earth's weather systems highlights the interconnectedness of our planet and its cosmic environment2.

1. https://theconversation.com/lightning-s ... ace-243772
2. https://www.downtoearth.org.in/science- ... r-in-space

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:05 am

New member, VM Blast, has a thread called Plasma Pressure Theory (PPT): A potential Paradigm Shift in Gravity, at viewtopic.php?p=11501#p11501

I'm hoping he or anyone succeeds at showing a relationship between plasma or electric fields and gravity. I think it may then explain how large dinosaurs could have lived before the Great Flood. I recently found via AI that Earth's polar electric field supposedly required over a millionfold increase in strength in order to account for visible plasma apparitions that Anthony Peratt said ancient rock art indicates used to be present in the polar sky. It also said a flaring Red Dwarf star could supply such an increase in the electric field. So we're closing in on the truth. Eh?

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Re: Solar Proton Storm Effect on Lightning on Earth?

Unread post by Maol » Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:44 pm

Lloyd wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:51 am Is there a date for the first map?
Lower left corner.

If the dates are the same, then I just see a lighter blue circular area on the top map that is about where the lightning strikes are on the bottom one.

Copilot says:

Yes, there is a connection between proton flux impacts and lightning strikes on Earth. High-energy particles, such as protons from solar activity, can influence Earth's atmosphere and potentially play a role in triggering lightning. Here's how:

Cosmic Ray and Solar Proton Effects: When high-energy protons from solar flares or cosmic rays enter Earth's atmosphere, they can ionize air molecules. This ionization increases the conductivity of the atmosphere, which can enhance the conditions for lightning formation.

Electromagnetic Waves and Lightning: Lightning itself generates electromagnetic waves that can interact with charged particles in Earth's magnetosphere. These interactions can disturb the Van Allen radiation belts, causing energetic particles to precipitate into the atmosphere. This creates a feedback loop between space weather and terrestrial weather.

While the exact mechanisms are still being studied, the interplay between space weather (like proton flux) and Earth's weather systems highlights the interconnectedness of our planet and its cosmic environment2.

1. https://theconversation.com/lightning-s ... ace-243772
2. https://www.downtoearth.org.in/science- ... r-in-space

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Re: Solar Proton Storm Effect on Lightning on Earth?

Unread post by Maol » Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:01 pm

When protons, AKA Hydrogen nuclei, enter the Earth's atmosphere, wouldn't they react with O2 and become H2O?

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by Cargo » Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:10 am

Gravity, has already been demystified by EU and is not a Force or Element. The only epic shift we need is for that to be understood.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes
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"Charge separation prevents the collapse of stars." Wal Thornhill

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by perpetual motion » Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:54 am

It would be nice if this scientific allusion would leave peoples brains
and get with what makes sense.People are still using centuries old
math that makes no sense.The people that came up with these
goofy ideas were very superstitious and didn't have a decent pot
or running water.
Sure everything is electrical, that's the balance of all things.
Every thing floating around, flying around, and all the groupies
doing their thing, all of them have a magnetic bubble around
themselves called Magnetic-spheres.These spheres are what holds
the gases down and whatever else is standing, sitting,lying down
people should get the idea.
All of these gigantic marbles floating around are gigantic round
ELECTRO MAGNETS orbiting around a humungous magnetic star.
The word gravity should be changed to electro-magnetic systems.
These masses are beyond comprehension and still nobody gets it.
If people would play with magnets they would know this.Small magnets
large magnets.But you have to think on an gigantic planet sized scale.
They are all pushing against each other, thats where the Larange
point comes into effect.

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by nick c » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:28 am

What powers lightning on Earth? It has been noted that clouds in Earth's atmosphere cannot generate enough electricity to cause observed lightning bolts
Every second, almost 50 bolts of lightning zig-zag across the skies of Earth. Despite centuries of study, however, researchers still aren't sure how the bolts get started. Electric fields in thunderclouds are often too weak to ignite a powerful discharge.
This article from Spaceweather attributes lightning to cosmic rays. Others have found correlations between the frequency of thunderstorms and solar activity.

https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?vi ... &year=2025

https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/24/ ... index.html

Wal Thornhill wrote:The conventional ‘isolated Earth’ view is that positive and negative charge is ‘somehow’ separated by vertical winds in clouds and that this process in thunderstorms is responsible for charging up the ionosphere and causing the atmospheric electric field. But this begs the question of cause and effect. Recent high-altitude balloon flights find that charge is not built up in the cloud, it already exists in the ionosphere above. In January 2002 I argued the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE® model:

“Thunderstorms are not electricity generators, they are passive elements in an interplanetary circuit, like a self-repairing leaky condenser. The energy stored in the cloud ‘condenser’ is released as lightning when it short-circuits. The short-circuits can occur either within the cloud or across the external resistive paths to Earth or the ionosphere. The charge across the cloud ‘condenser’ gives rise to violent vertical electrical winds within the cloud, not vice versa.”

https://www.holoscience.com/wp/electric-weather/

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Re: The Electric Earth

Unread post by Maol » Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:29 pm

nick c wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:28 am What powers lightning on Earth? It has been noted that clouds in Earth's atmosphere cannot generate enough electricity to cause observed lightning bolts
A proton flux impact event deposits significant positive charge in Earth's magnetosphere and atmosphere.

I think when protons, AKA Hydrogen nuclei, enter the Earth's magnetosphere and atmosphere, not only do they bring positive charge, they gather electrons and react with O2 and become H2O.

http://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum3/phpB ... 371#p11470
Maol wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:41 pm Do you think this proton flux impact map could be related to this lightning strike map
Image

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Description of the CME and proton storm in this Space Weather link.
https://www.spaceweather.com/archive.ph ... &year=2025

Interactive Lightning Strike Map here
https://www.lightningmaps.org/#

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The Electric Earth

Unread post by Brigit » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:11 pm

Wow, this thread goes into different territories for the Electric Earth. But regarding the Sun/Earth connection and terrestrial lightning, here are a couple of Space News. Of course Wal Thornhill does not neglect to point out the lightning on the other planets--esp. Venus--and the way it gets even more powerful as you go further from the Sun to the gas giants. This is just not what you would expect from the abysmal Nebular Hypothesis and the clockwork solar system. Lightning is everywhere in the Solar System and spacecraft have even been zapped by asteroids and comets. The agencies just brush themselves off and proceed as if it never happened.

A Shocker: Solar Wind Provokes Lightning on Earth | Space News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wOTlKmeoA
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Scientists in the United Kingdom have reported findings that could change our understanding of lightning. Researchers have discovered a link between charged particles on the Sun and increased lightning on Earth. Wal Thornhill explains why this is not a surprise to the Electric Universe community.

Gigantic Lightning Above the Electric Earth | Space News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NenomdAZ11M
Mar 4, 2013
In August 2001 a high-altitude balloon was sent aloft to ride far above the great storms of the mid-west USA. Researchers had sent the balloon, like a Dark Rider out of Tolkien, riding into the moonless night, seeking sprites, gnomes and the ring of the elves.

Link to Thornhill article discussed in this video: https://www.holoscience.com/wp/the-ball ... lightning/
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Re: The Electric Earth

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