Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

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Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by Phorce » Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:51 pm

For some reason this image of M38 got me thinking about this.

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In the EU model, and in wider cosmology, are there ONLY galaxies outside of our own galaxy ? Is the cosmos made up, at the larger scale, exclusivly of galaxies ? The deep field shots have rounder or globular looking galaxies. But otherwise, as far as I understand this, once outside of our galaxy the cosmos seems to be exclusivly arranged (at least, as far as we can see it) into galaxies. If this is the case I find that very curious, as would one not expect a variety of object types at that scale ? Or is this the birkland current ruling all ?
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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by nick c » Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:45 pm

There seems to be electrical connections between galaxies and overall larger galactic structures. So intergalactic space must have currents and electric circuits between galaxies and even galactic groups. Electric currents are composed of moving charged particles, and though space may qualify as an industrial vacuum, there is no such thing as a pure vacuum, and intergalactic space must have electrons and protons flowing between galaxies and galactic groups.

This implies that the structures are at such a mind boggling large scale that it is difficult for a puny human mind to comprehend. In other words, it appears that what we can observe of the universe: distant galaxies, galaxy groups, and groups of galaxy groups form even larger structures which presumably have yet to be discovered.
It is analogous to an insect living on a leaf and perceiving that there are other leaves, and they form trees, but not yet realizing that the trees form forests.

Disclaimer: I am writing my own speculations based upon the EU paradigm, any errors are my own.

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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by Phorce » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:48 pm

nick c wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:45 pm There seems to be electrical connections between galaxies and overall larger galactic structures. So intergalactic space must have currents and electric circuits between galaxies and even galactic groups. Electric currents are composed of moving charged particles, and though space may qualify as an industrial vacuum, there is no such thing as a pure vacuum, and intergalactic space must have electrons and protons flowing between galaxies and galactic groups.

This implies that the structures are at such a mind boggling large scale that it is difficult for a puny human mind to comprehend. In other words, it appears that what we can observe of the universe: distant galaxies, galaxy groups, and groups of galaxy groups form even larger structures which presumably have yet to be discovered.
It is analogous to an insect living on a leaf and perceiving that there are other leaves, and they form trees, but not yet realizing that the trees form forests.

Disclaimer: I am writing my own speculations based upon the EU paradigm, any errors are my own.
Ah, right that makes sense and crystalises some of my own thoughts. If it’s likely a natural fractal organisation then the galaxies we see could be inside another vastly larger structure that may take some other form. So zooming right out from what we see in the space telescope deepfield shots (if we could do such a thing) may show different types of bodies that hold all those galaxies.
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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by Phorce » Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:45 am

Apparently there are Globular Clusters between galaxies. I don’t know how that jives with EU theory determining galaxy formation by twisting galactic scale birkland currents.
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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by nick c » Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:04 pm

A large galaxy like the Milky Way or Andromeda M-31 would have many accompanying globular clusters and dwarf galaxies. It is not surprising that the space between major galaxies would be inhabited by globular clusters since it has long been thought that many of the Milky Way's globular clusters, which hang around the galactic center, were captured.

If the Milky Way (and other larger galaxies) are accompanied by swarms of globular clusters. and many of those were captured, then it stands to reason that the intergalactic space must be populated by globular clusters (and dwarf spheroid galaxies).

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/0 ... -clusters/

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/0 ... -clusters/

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2023/0 ... nderbolts/

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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by GaryN » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:34 pm

What they tell us are galaxies are really solar systems with similar configurations to our own. One central Sun crating matter and charge which spiral outwards as should be expected. Bahram Katirais " Revolution in Astronomy" is still worth a read IMO.
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Re: Are there only other galaxies outside or own galaxy ?

Unread post by fosborn » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:49 pm

GaryN wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:34 pm What they tell us are galaxies are really solar systems with similar configurations to our own. One central Sun creating matter and charge which spiral outwards as should be expected. Bahram Katirais " Revolution in Astronomy" is still worth a read IMO.
Thanks for you comment GaryN, a search brought up this discussion. As the years go by I appreciate how you push the boundaries with fineness.
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