detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

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detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

Post by beekeeper » Mon May 03, 2010 9:06 pm

In his article of today Mr Smith propose that the radio wave emissions coming from M82 galaxy are the results of strong electrical manifestations in the stated galaxy. He also mentionned that galaxies appear to occur in strings. Connected as they are by a large circuit. M82 is a relatively close galaxy at an estimated 12millions light years. We have been receiving this radio signal for over a year now, and it has not grown any weaker. Supposing that M82 is on the same circuit as our milky way, a surge in the electrical energy affecting M82 will eventually connect with our galaxy, if it hasn't already done so. He also mentionned that double layers can explode in galaxies as well as on a star like our sun. Solar flares are a powerfull manifestation of these explosions. It took an aproximate 12 millions years for these radio waves to make their way to our recievers. Where is M82 in relation to the position of the solar system in the milky way. Can M82 be a member of our galactic string. In the last year our sun shifted polarity. Certainly an electrical force of some kind is causing this change. And an electric courant will follow it's circuit. So with these radio waves we should probably be expecting some electrical disturbance in our own galaxy, to what scale though remains to be seen. Just rambling, but am I on the trail of something? With this surge of electrical power we may soon be witnessing the formation of double star from the excess currant flowing through one , or the birth of new planets ejected form the sun , fascinating stuff.
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Re: detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

Post by Jarvamundo » Mon May 03, 2010 11:25 pm

Valid questions and important points there beekeeper.

Radio astronomers are measuring these sources and polarization of sources (faraday rotation) from the interstellar magnetic fields. This will be an important area of research for mapping out where the currents are, what they are doing etc. Measuring these currents as you have described will be at the forefront of EU observational progress. SKA, POSSUM will be performing these, along with others. Although these experiments were not initially created with EU in mind, they (to me) are essentially EU sky surveys. Radio astronomers are well versed in EM, it's an exciting area of research for EU.

The question then arises... what more could we do to understand this nature, in order to benefit man? (wow that sounds like real observational / empirical science, don't it).

#1 Work out how to detect current positions and strengths and trends on solar system, interstellar, intergalactic scales. (probably in that order of importance ;) )
#2 Map it, Monitor it
#3 Identify patterns with stellar events and behaviors in order to make predictions
#4 Benefit

eg.. Some questions:
* Will we see EU precursors to nova and other stellar activities.... can we then predict these events with those precursors
* Models for Solar EM weather? (global warming, earthquake precursors, clouds, planet changes)

The questions and area for study are quite limitless! The sooner the gravity boys stop throwing the research dollars down the mathematical black hole money pits, the sooner we can get on with this natural philosophy and benefit from it.

Fascinating stuff indeed.
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Re: detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

Post by beekeeper » Thu May 06, 2010 11:50 am

Just something that have crossed my mind repeatedly. Jarvamundo mentionned benefits that would be attached to our understanding of the electric forces of the univers. One of them would surely be to harness this relatively limitless source of energy. Cosmic microwaves background noises have been discovered some time ago. They are most likely present everywhere in the univers, but most detectable in the so called empty space between galaxies and stars etc.. We have managed to create microwaves from an electrical source, it is now present in most of our kitchens. I am just wondering since we can create microwaves from an electrical source, can we reverse the process and create electricity from microwaves?
On another line of thoughts since microwaves are a manifestation of electrical activity that fits really well with the EU theory. How else can microwaves be created? And can chemistry be a contributor to the formation of microwaves? I understand that nuclear fusion can also be a source of microwaves, any way food for thoughts.
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Re: detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

Post by Jarvamundo » Thu May 06, 2010 8:06 pm

It gets even better beekeeper... Lots of info and discussion on this site about those very ideas. Have a dig around the threads and search functionality of the site. ;)

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Re: detecting double layers by Stephen Smith

Post by jjohnson » Fri May 14, 2010 9:38 am

Hi, beekeeper,
microwaves are readily made through several mechanisms other than ovens and radar - both those use magnetron or klystron tubes (or valves) to create the rather short wavelengths of radio waves that resonate the molecules in edible goods and cause them to absorb energy as heat.

In space, every star emits millimeter waves, but as these are relatively long wavelengths (between 1mm and 1m), it is a very small fraction of the total energy emitted by stars. (With electromagnetic radiation, the higher the frequency, the greater the energy content). Stars' spectra are approximately blackbody radiators, which says that the wavelength at which the greatest power is radiated is a function of its temperature (Wien's Law). Beyond microwaves, longer wavelengths are "radio" waves. In the other direction, microwaves give way to infrared (700nm-1mm) and then visible (400-700nm) wavelengths, and so on.

Note that the entire residual or ambient background radiation we observe in the universe is the "cosmic microwave background", or CMB. The antennas of radio astronomers are generally sensitive to millimeter wavelengths, and many of the images published by radio astronomy agencies are images in the wavelengths used to heat food, converted from invisible radio or micro waves into visible (to us) images by assigning color schemes to indicate what we might see in those wavelengths, if we only could.

Tapping background microwave radiation as an energy source would not be a very profitable undertaking, as there is so little energy in it to convert to useful power, around here. One proposed scheme uses a square kilometer array of solar panels to convert solar energy in space to microwaves, which would then be beamed down to off-shore or desert area receiver arrays tuned to the same frequency as the emitters. This energy is then converted back to electric power and fed into the grid. That's an indirect way in which the microwaves are merely a carrier wave, not a primary source.

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