Ring of Ice, Ring of Fire Feb 25, 2010

[larryduane100]

Todays TPOD is very interesting. I would wonder why the aurora would have exactly the same shape in the past when under the influence of Saturn(as the pole sun) that it does today only influenced by Sol. I thank all posters in advance for your time.
Larry

[longcircuit]

How do we know that

lands near the pole were warm and ice-free during the Ice Age has been known—and ignored—since the 1700s[?]

Whence, then, did the ice start, if not at the poles? Acheson suggests glaciation began at "local high points from all directions..." Since he earlier states that

[f]urther south, beyond the ice, the warm climate again asserted itself[,]

this can mean only high points within a certain range of latitude.
Or am I misreading this TPOD?

longcircuit

[Grey Cloud]

Hi Longcircuit,
You asked:

How do we know that

lands near the pole were warm and ice-free during the Ice Age has been known—and ignored—since the 1700s[?]

I'm guessing that this originates from Velikovsky, his World's In Collision has this to say:

Not only are the causes of the appearance and later disappearance of the glacial sheet unknown, but the geographical shape of the area covered by ice is also a problem. Why did the glacial sheet, in the southern hemisphere, move from the tropical regions of Africa toward the south polar region and not in the opposite direction, and, similarly, why, in the northern hemisphere, did the ice move in India from the equator toward the Himalaya mountains and the higher latitudes? Why did the glaciers of the Ice Age cover the greater part of North America and Europe, while the north of Asia remained free? In America the plateau of ice stretched up to latitude 40° and even passed across this line; in Europe it reached latitude 50°; while northeastern Siberia, above the polar circle, even above latitude 75°, was not covered with this perennial ice. All hypotheses regarding increased and diminished insolation due to solar alterations or the changing temperature of the cosmic space, and other similar hypotheses, cannot avoid being confronted with this problem. Glaciers are formed in the regions of eternal snow; for this reason they remain on the slopes of the high mountains. The north of Siberia is the coldest place in the world. Why did not the Ice Age touch this region, whereas it visited the basin of the Mississippi and all Africa south of the equator? No satisfactory solution to this question has been proposed. WIC p.24.

No references are given for this passage.

[starbiter]

If you look at Earth in Upheaval in the chapter on ice, you'll find coral grew in the far north. And under the ice of antarctica there are forests. And there are footnotes. Worlds in Collision is mostly folklore. If you want to know about physical evidence, look in Earth in Upheaval.

michael

[DT611]

If you look at Earth in Upheaval in the chapter on ice, you'll find coral grew in the far north. And under the ice of antarctica there are forests. And there are footnotes. Worlds in Collision is mostly folklore. If you want to know about physical evidence, look in Earth in Upheaval.

michael

Thanks for this info.
For those new in this forum, like me, we may find information like this to be very overwhelming.
However, it's great guys that you are giving references.

[jjohnson]

Welcome, DT611, to our Forum. Although I don't get involved in the archeological, mythical interpretation and geophysical discussions much - not my primary interest and I know next to nothing about those areas - lots of us do, and the ripples from the physics of an electric universe model touch an astounding variety of phenomena. Glad to have you; keep an open mind, enjoy being part of what is usually a pretty respectable dialog!

J Johnson