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[Lloyd]

* I just revisited Bill Gaede's video about Crothers' proof against the conventional mathematical model for Black Holes at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4GFAjX62Yg or rather I read the comments about the video there. I noticed that there was apparently nothing among the comments about EU theory. So I plan to try to leave a comment about that myself, although I'd welcome anyone else here to do likewise. Here are some of the reasons some people gave for believing in black holes [They obviously don't realize that EU theory provides much better answers. See end].
-Entropy3ko
I wonder how Crothers explains the phenomena that support the Black Hole model, such as 'gravitational lensing', x-ray jets, stars rotating around very massive yet invisible objects.
-thaloco1
He has misinterpreted various of the tensor quantities in Einstein's field equations. It is analogous to believing that the inverse square law for gravity is rubbish because it is singular at r=0.
What Crothers lacks is the explanation for the remaining attached phenomena, i.e. the existence of AGNs, Quasars, relativistic jets, immense emission in: Radio, X-RAY, Gamma-Ray etc. etc.
Currently the BH theory predicts these effects and can give parameterized estimates of these effects.
+noblackhole
And tell us what 'r' is in "Schwarzschild's" solution (which is not even his solution).
And tell us all specifically how you think Crothers misinterprets Einstein's field equations.
-CivilHuman
You say black holes are masslless that's BS. Ever heard of black holes and then super massive black holes and How about the gravity they produce? They have mass that's what allows them to be a black hole.
You say nothing can leave a black hole; thats BS. Hawking radiation?
You say we have never observed black holes. Well We think we have seen many of them. Black holes explain how stars move so fast near the center of a galaxy we can see how they affect stars.
You say Black holes don't follow relativity. AS if that's an argument against them.
Everyone know Black holes, the singularity, or Things on the quantum level don't really follow relativity. That don't mean they don't exist We just don't have Good models yet.
* Of course, all of those phenomena appear to be much better explained as electrical and plasma phenomena as explained at the following.
http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/v ... ers#p23790
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3At ... ecad7dd685

[Lloyd]

I posted all of the comments on the video at http://sci.lefora.com/2009/09/25/no-black-holes/page1 but I left out most of the irrelevant stuff, so it's an interesting discussion of black holes, as well as Rope Theory and the basis of Physics.