NOT Hoagland's Mars Images

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NOT Hoagland's Mars Images

Post by Lloyd » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:49 pm

This site sure has interesting Mars images: http://marsanomalyresearch.com. I found one link to the site under the Water on Mars thread, but only one or two images were linked.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... 31-ice.jpg
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ests-1.htm
Looks like electric geyser remains, although the caption says:
The above thirteenth image ... shows only a small part of a very extensive lower profile ice field, all of it covered with the dark spots you see here. The ice is the most light reflective areas and it is water ice. The spots are a spore driven life form organism that I've previously reported on that takes advantage of and flourishes on these water ice masses.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... eature.jpg
The above first 3-panel image demonstrates what very suspiciously appears to be a partially visible fossil or old skeletal remains of a small creature partially buried in the soil.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... eature.jpg
The above second 3-panel image demonstrates what clearly appears to be an armless legless serpentine creature caught in the open among the rocks that are likely its home. This image and evidence was brought to my attention by Rolf Varga of Zimbabwee to the benefit of us all.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... -image.jpg

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ife-3b.htm
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ife-3a.htm
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... life-2.htm
These sections have some amazing and beautiful, detailed sanddune-like images & some look almost Lichtenberg figure-like. I think the behavior of electric and magnetic fields can be deduced somewhat from these images.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... evisit.htm
Here are spiders and patterns that resemble plants.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ity-11.htm
This section is sort of a hybrid of several patterns.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... life-1.htm
This section has detailed images of rilles with transverse lines and other odd features.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... valles.htm
This section looks like something bright floating above the surface, but it may be an illusion.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... -split.jpg
This may be EDM carved holes, maybe similar to the electric geysers.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... t-bags.jpg
Here something has smoothed the Mars soil in several circular areas near the Mars Rover, I think. The yellow dots are markers by the author.

http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/ ... /proof.asp
The author refers to this webpage on the Face on Mars.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... -sites.htm
This section has interesting dark spot patterns, maybe related to the electric geysers.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ronome.jpg
Here's an oddly shaped object, maybe a rock.

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Re: New Mars Images

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Re: New Mars Images

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Re: New Mars Images

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Hoagland's Mars Images

Post by Lloyd » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:35 am

* In showing the above images I didn't mean to suggest that the author's interpretations may be correct. His interpretations are at the bottom of each image. To me, all or nearly all of the images seem likely to be electrical and magnetic effects.

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Re: Hoagland's Mars Images

Post by saturnine » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:46 am

Any idea what the scale on these are?

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Re: Hoagland's Mars Images

Post by allynh » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:44 pm

Great links, awesome pictures. It's going to take me awhile to harvest all his pages.

It's not Hoagland's website though, it's by Joseph Skipper and his quest to understand what the photos Hoagland posted really implied. It's obvious that he doesn't know about EU stuff so is interpreting things "wrong" but that doesn't change the awesome images he has found.

THE REAL SMOKING GUN AS TO LIFE ON MARS - Report #001
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... ng-gun.htm

The photos are beautiful examples of electric activity. It takes someone passionate enough to spend time going through the MSSS stuff to find things. We would need to have volunteers working full time, going photo by photo to find all this stuff.
saturnine wrote: Any idea what the scale on these are?
I can't tell yet, but this is a quote from the article above.
Skipper wrote: A true understanding of what is really going on in this scene in my above image cannot occur unless true size scale is also figured out. That isn't easy to do because what they have left us with, after all the tampering hiding not only whatever evidence is around and between the ridge lines but also any visual size frames of comparison reference, creates the illusion of a relatively normal size scale. However, in the upper center area of the above image, note my arrow pointing to a sample of one of the ridge lines to the right of the massive light source. I've seen a lot of this kind of evidence now and, even though this is very distant and poorly seen with individual detail tending to merge together into a continuous chain line, careful examination reveals that this line and a few others are tending to separate out into a line of multiple tall structures rather than any kind of continuous natural geological ridge. I would have increased the zoom further to see this better but pixelization would have started being an issue.
This is the main website where all of the official Mars data is.

Malin Space Science Systems
http://www.msss.com/

Check it out and the links in the article above, there has to be a way to pin the scale down. It will take time to go through all this fun stuff.

BTW, Hoagland is so fun to read, and he finds all the great photos, then goes off into bizarro land with his interpretations. I have always wondered if Hoagland was a NASA disinformation source to muddy the water and keep this stuff in the "whacko fringe" category. Hoagland lives here in New Mexico. I've always wanted to go talk to the man.

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NOT Hoagland's Mars Images - I SAY NOT, N-O-T!

Post by Lloyd » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:17 pm

* I posted these images on the Planetary Sciences board under the thread New Images from Mars. Why can't the moderators stand to have these unusual Mars images there? Don't they want to see what EU explanations there might be for these images? They look like EU phenomena to me. I can't help it if the author put his own non-EU captions on the images. They'd be much more useful on the Planetary Sciences board where I put them in the first place.
* I don't know that Hoagland found these images. I thought the author of the website found them. Did he credit Hoagland?
* As for image scale, they have to be fairly big, as I think they were all taken from orbit.
* Well, the last image was obviously taken from the ground.

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Re: Hoagland's Mars Images

Post by Mallas » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:05 am

Hiya Lloyd,

I usually do a lot of link clicking and not much posting.

But After looking at these mars pics (I have a lot more I have been saving over the years since the first rover), I thought I would post this video link which is very interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPoPhQWdWpU

You probably know about it. But others may not.

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