Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

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Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by Michael Mozina » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:06 pm

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-lhc-fi ... mitstart=1
To be clear, this inconsistency has so far only been measured with a certainty of 2.2 to 2.5 sigma - which means there's up to roughly a 1 in 100 chance that it's the result of random chance and isn't really evidence of new physics.
Is it just me, or does this claim and this article seem rather desperate? The last time they publicly claimed to find a "hint" of something interesting, they at least waited until they were in the 3.1+ range, and that so called "hint" fizzled away with more data even though it achieved a higher sigma relevancy.

Now they're down to 2.2 sigma deviation in one decay process and off to the press they go......even *before* analyzing all the data that they already have available thus far.
So far, the researchers have only looked at data from the LHC's first run - which lasted from 2008 to 2013.

Going through data collected during the collider's second run, which lasts from 2015 to 2018 - as well as performing new experiments on B meson decay - will be crucial to revealing whether we're on the verge of finding new physics.
Er, admittedly the second run isn't "complete" yet, but they already have data from 2016 that hasn't even been looked at or factored into this sigma calculation. Why not?

Then of course there are the obligatory references to dark matter:
"Either lepton universality is not true, or there is something extra happening, for example, a new extra intermediate particle," Blekman told Wired.

"Proving and explaining, either way, would be amazing and would completely change the way we understand how matter sticks together ... particularly if there are new particles, new forces that can explain things like dark matter in the galaxy or how the Universe formed."
If?

Even if they eventually find sufficient existence of an "intermediate particle" during this particular decay process, such a particle wouldn't necessarily live long enough to explain their mythical "dark matter". Why then do they even mention "dark matter"?

This whole article reeks of pure media hype and desperation to me. It was bad enough that their 5.1+ sigma BICEP2 claim turned to dust in mere months, and bad enough that their 3.1 sigma 750GHZ "bump" got blown away by larger data, but now we're down into the 2 sigma range and already they're hyping the hell out of it to the press. How desperate for something good to talk about in public are they anyway?

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by Michael Mozina » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:01 am

I'm pretty sure that this sort of "lowering of the bar' is likely to continue as it relates to "dark matter" theory over the next few years. LUX-LZ isn't going to come online until something like 2020, and that's really their only 'hope' at the moment. For the next several years, they still need to keep hyping dark matter theory somehow, so they'll have to keep lowing the bar in terms of standards of evidence in the lab, and they'll have keep pointing at the sky for all of their so called 'evidence". They'll have to keep claiming *without evidence* that gamma rays and x-rays are indications of their invisible friends in the sky. :(

I think it really important to keep reminding the mainstream that their galaxy mass estimation techniques from 2006 were shown to be utterly worthless in terms of predicting the amount of mass that was present in those various galaxies. In 2012 we found a gigantic "halo" of million degree plasma around our own galaxy that's located exactly where their own dark matter models "predicted" that missing mass would be located, and it's rotating around the galaxy like their dark matter models predicted too.

Their pretense for any need for stable forms of exotic matter is based on the validity of the mass estimation techniques that they've been using for the past 100 years, and they simply have no scientific credibility on that score. Recent (last decade) study after study after study has found more and more and more flaws in their mass estimation techniques and more "missing mass' since 2006 than was ever known to exist prior to 2006. In each and every case, the mainstream is forced to simply bury their collective heads in the sand and pretend that their mass estimation techniques have been completely "flawless" all that time.

The whole exotic matter charade is one gigantic denial process on a stick. We've spent *billions* with a B looking for stable forms of exotic types of matter in controlled experimentation, and we simply have no evidence to support it. Every mathematical "prediction' they made about dark matter was worthless. We've seen *numerous* studies since 2006 that blow the doors of the mainstream claim to have properly 'guestimated" the amount of mass in any given galaxy. We've found more mass around our own galaxy since 2006 than we even knew about in 2006.

The whole 'dark matter' claim is in serous jeopardy, and with it LCDM theory as a whole. CDM was the only part of LCDM theory that was directly testable in controlled experimentation, and it's been a complete and total disaster in the lab. Not a single "prediction' of the mainstream, nor a single mathematical model has born any empirical fruit. Dark matter theory has been the mainstream's Waterloo.

IMO this 'lowering of the bar" before the mainstream cries wolf to the press is just another example of pure desperation. In the last two years we've seen them go from 5.1 sigma "cry wolf' claims (which turned to dust), to 3.1 sigma claims (later falsified), to 2.2 sigma claims before they go before the press with their "good news'.

LIGO claims about the discovery of gravitational waves require us to believe that invisible objects billions of light years from Earth release invisible gravitational waves, and we should just "trust" them, in spite of their misinformation about data quality vetoes, and in spite of a complete lack of any external falsification mechanism ever being applied to their own claim of a celestial origin of the signal.

I can't think of a more sad state of affairs for cosmology theory. Empirical physics has brought us countless triumphs inside of our own solar system, yet the mainstream relegates empirical physics to a mere five percent of the universe, and they use 'pseudoscience' to mathematically describe the behavior of plasma. Wow. I just can't see LCDM surviving another decade. There's just too much mounting evidence to demonstrate that the mainstream cannot properly guestimate the mass of distant galaxies based on light, and they have no evidence whatsoever to support exotic stable matter. Worse yet, all their exotic matter "predictions" have been worthless in the lab.

If the mainstream thought the last decade was tough, they haven't seen anything yet. They'll have to ban all discussion of not only *alternative* theories on their own websites, but they'll have to start banning all serious debate about their *own* theories too.

I think it would be a lot less painful for the mainstream to simply rip off the collective invisible band-aids and embrace empirical physics in one fell swoop. EU/PC theory is destined to replace LCDM. It's only a matter of time.

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by Webbman » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:52 pm

your still reading it.
its all lies.

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by Michael Mozina » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:40 am

Webbman wrote:your still reading it.
Ya, and I suppose that's the primary reason for the mainstream to continue to hype/advertise the dark matter hypothesis with the press, even if that means that they have to keep lowering the sigma bar to do so.

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by The Great Dog » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:39 pm

The Large Underground Xenon experiment (LUX) is a mile underground. Photomultiplier tubes they say can detect a single photon line a tank of xenon. In 2016, LUX finished an expensive upgrade, resulting in nothing. No detection of anything. After 12 years of continuous operation, SuperCDMS detected nothing. The Axion Dark Matter Experiment has noise problems. Even at 4.2 Kelvin they can't tune the detector. You ever see the picture of a dozen blind men holding on to each other's shoulders, with the first guy's hand on the last guy's shoulder?

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by Michael Mozina » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:44 am

The Great Dog wrote:The Large Underground Xenon experiment (LUX) is a mile underground. Photomultiplier tubes they say can detect a single photon line a tank of xenon. In 2016, LUX finished an expensive upgrade, resulting in nothing. No detection of anything. After 12 years of continuous operation, SuperCDMS detected nothing. The Axion Dark Matter Experiment has noise problems. Even at 4.2 Kelvin they can't tune the detector. You ever see the picture of a dozen blind men holding on to each other's shoulders, with the first guy's hand on the last guy's shoulder?

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It's just sad to think how much we might actually learn about solar physics and astronomy simply by putting the next round of LUX-LZ funding into recreating Birkeland's full body of lab work using updated equipment. Can you imagine SAFIRE with a 50-60 million dollar budget?

The mainstream's exotic matter of the gaps claim is both expensive and counterproductive as it relates to the advancement of real science. The "hype" and pure denial is just off scale at this point. I'm definitely seeing a clear pattern of fear and desperation as it relates to attempting to prop up the whole exotic matter concept. Anything seems to go now. Even the lowliest of "hints" of something unusual at LHC is now used to hype the hell out of their supernatural belief system to the press and to the unsuspecting public. They have to constantly point at the sky and they must blatantly resort to an affirming the consequent fallacy to support their claim.

I'm starting to wonder how long their supernatural charade can even last. I used to be pretty sure that I'd never live to see the end of the dark ages of physics, but I'm seriously starting to wonder if the LCDM dogma can even survive another decade like the last one. I'm starting to believe that it's possible that the walls could crumble in my lifetime. LHC was like Shiva the *destroyer* of their dark matter claims. LHC crushed the life out of all their "popular" mathematical models for exotic matter, and they'd don't seem to even have any alternatives to offer, so they keep pouring money down the same holes in the ground and praying for a miracle.

I just don't see how they can keep up this charade if they can't support the 'cold dark matter' claim soon, and I see no evidence that such a form of matter even exists in the first place. They're running out of gaps.

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Re: Is it just me, or does the mainstream sound desperate?

Post by BeAChooser » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Michael Mozina wrote: I just don't see how they can keep up this charade if they can't support the 'cold dark matter' claim soon, and I see no evidence that such a form of matter even exists in the first place. They're running out of gaps.
Haven't you heard? They can prove everything with super computer simulations. ;)

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