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Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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will be continued......
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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
I think its ok too disagree Chris. Your model has a new lower limit temperature. Meyls has a new upper limit temperature. You both have a vortex model. Those commonalites and differences are ovbious.
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I believe that the work in the field of actual test observations in the electric lab leave no question as to the validity of the work of Konstanitine Meyl and longitudinal energy wireless transfer as a fundamental form of electricity as first demonstrated by Nilola Tesla.
http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=47_ ... sublevel=0
Paramahamsa Tewari has made a breakthrough in a method of electrical power generation by magnets.
http://www.tewari.org/
Howard Johnson has reexamined the same in Magnets and Spintronics.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintro ... rd-Johnson

All three have a vortex model that supports each others model by experiments in Electricity and Magnatism. The model does not need any departures into esoteric matter or objects or away from absolute zero. I find that clear and concise and refreshing.

You yourself admit to not having completed the necessary lab work to prove the theorectical model you have designed. That may be the crux of the matter. Our own departures in the Vortex Electric Universe model seem to stem from that position. Mine are validated by three independent researchers with fundamentally the same theory and observable effects. That in and of itself makes it difficult to prove incorrect from a purely theoretical model. Predictability, testability, scalability is the focus of the EU. The EU depends on observerable and scaleable effects that can be tested time and time again and in fact have already been shown and proven, just not accepted in modern cosmology.

The only UQT is the view of yours chris that the work of the three men mentioned as to be incorrect or invalid and that a purely theoretical theory called the EVU that cannot be tested or has not been tested as noteworthy in comparison.

Get back to me when you have the lab results chris.
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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: EVU, GFMI etc etc etc... Reply with quote
Chris Marx you seem to not understand the nature of scientific inquiry and debate. All we have seen from you so far are your own assertions, tacked onto the works of someone else who seems to be relatively unheard of.

The vast bulk of the information you reference is likewise nothing more than assertions. For example the pdf you link to (http://www.sources.li/gfmi-proof.pdf) called "proof" has no proof of anything in it, save the proof that the author has different ideas to the rest of the world...

Your posts have offered nothing new since the first one, you seem to be regurgitating the same links over and over. Nor have you offered anything coherent by way of rebuttal to other suggestions offered to you.

This is hardly the way to have your ideas given serious consideration by others. Perhaps, if you have something to offer, you should reconsider your approach.
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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Re: EVU, GFMI etc etc etc... Reply with quote
Ok Chris, NMMNG (No More Mr. Nice Guy). Your CBS (Constant Badgering Self-assertions) are BQT (Becoming Quite Tiresome). This forum is a place of IDD (Intelligent Discussion and Debate) not an ESP (Ego Stroker's Paradise).

Should you wish to PTLOD (Persue This Line Of Discussion) I feel we will NGA (Not Get Anywhere). You have already MYP (Made Your Point), at least HDT (Half a Dozen Times).

I'm sorry if our SSA (Somewhat Scientific Approach) has you TB (Totally Bamboozled) but it's the way we DTAH (Do Things Around Here). I hope you now GTM (Get The Message) and POQ (Post in Other Quarters) as your insistance on BS (Being Sarcastic) and TRIPE (Totally Random Individual Pumping of Ego) will not win you many CONVERTS (converts in UC [Upper Case]). Do I MMC (Make Myself Clear)?

For those who understand plain English, your posts are looking more like self-serving advertising, than discussion or debate. You have already posted links to your site where anyone can read up on what it is you propose. Any further posting of the same material will be considered an attempt to derail the thread, and will be treated accordingly. Kindly bring something new to the discussion, or bow out. You have had your say, over and over. There are others here who would like to continue fruitful discussion.
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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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***** 3 PAGES LATER WHEN CHRIS LEFT THE BUILDING THE DISCUSSION RESUMED *****
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Re: Recovered: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics

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