Do you mean to tell me......?

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Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by scott » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:06 pm

.... that modern science has its head so far up its own arse that it cant even accurately describe the *SUN*?

...and that it doesn't even really want to???

...and that all those books i read as a kid about the universe, comets, old sol, stars, galaxies and so on, were all mostly bunk???


...wow, that's pretty humbling really. I mean, c'mon, its the *SUN* :roll:

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Re: Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by davesmith_au » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:05 pm

... Yep. (Mind the lingo please Scott)

... Yep.

... Yep.

... Yep.

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Re: Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by scott » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:40 pm

yeah, that was rude language :oops:


the implications, Dave, are astounding.

the social implications i mean.

About two months ago i was chatting with a guy I met from India, he works in the space program there as a mathematical physicist or something. When i mentioned EU he wasnt phased - at - all - he just said, oh, yeah and started raving about some equations or other that he's working on. He inferred that there are a number of shifts like EU that are known, but, you know, yet to be known widely.

I think its great what you and the team are doing - striving for truth - thats a really scientific thing to do!

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Re: Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by Steve Smith » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:39 am

I'm not sure anyone involved with the Thunderbolts Project is striving for truth. I'm reminded of the famous quote: "what is truth?"

I find that the more information I process the more questions arise. In that case, I suggest that we are striving for questions to ask. The Incompleteness Theorum states that every answer uncovers more questions that must be answered. Those answers, in turn, elicit other questions and so on.

The more I study the concepts that the electric universe theory elucidates the more I realize I know nothing about it. The reason so many different people are studying so many different aspects of the ideas embodied therein is because no one person can absorb it all. I've been fortunate (although I don't think fortune, luck, blessing, or synergy are applicable) in having the opportunity to look at a wide variety of topics: astrophysics, geology, mythological history, linguistics, etc. It's been necessary so that I can write the Picture of the Day.

However, as I get closer to 200 articles I'm realizing that the search is neverending. My goal before I die is to gain so much knowledge that I become totally ignorant.

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Re: Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by webolife » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:55 pm

I've noticed, Steve, that both you and Michael Mg tend to leave your summative statements in question form.
It's the honest kind of balanced truly scientific way to address paradigmatic issues. Need more of it on these threads.
I like answers as much as the next guy, but science is about asking the right questions. I will try to be better about that myself.
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Re: Do you mean to tell me......?

Post by Steve Smith » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:10 pm

"Science proceeds funeral by funeral."

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I write in the way that the people who started this project write. When I was invited to write the Picture of the Day a couple years ago, it was because I had already been discussing the issues with Dave and Wal. I emulate the style they developed, whether consciously or unconsciously I can't say anymore.

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