1 million euro to overcome gravity

[ZPinch]

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum, but not to thunderbolts, however... I have been following them since 2005. I am so glad to see so many truly bright minds here. Anyways, I check in on the "free energy news" website frequently so spot any potential legit technology, you know how that is going... check this out.

http://www.goede-stiftung.org/uk/instit ... award.html

[D_Archer]

traditional effects such as aerodynamic, magnetism or electricity are excluded

eeh, way to make sure nobody gets that million.

Regards,
Daniel

[ZPinch]

lol Right

[Metryq]

traditional effects such as aerodynamic, magnetism or electricity are excluded

eeh, way to make sure nobody gets that million.

Since no one really knows what gravity is, that's pretty much an escape clause. If it turns out that gravity is a by-product of EM force or tied to it in some way, then mag-lev trains are already disqualified. Next up: one million to prove that fairies do not influence the growth of plants.

I worked with a guy who believes the hoverboards in BACK TO THE FUTURE II are real. I assured him they are not, and even pointed out the various image artifacts in the movie indicating either bluescreen composite work, or wire work. (The wire harnesses are plainly visible in several shots.) A magnetic rig was used in one shot, when Marty tosses the board at the ground before jumping on it. Anyway, I argued with the co-worker that working hoverboard technology would have completely remade our world, from shipping and transportation, and NASA would no longer be using giant boosters. The co-worker's retort: "It only works on toys."

Lots of people believe in time travel and lightsabers, too.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/14/surve ... ady-exist/

[Aardwolf]

If you could manufacture a large enough vessel using a superconducting material I don't see why you couldn't quantum lock it into the Earth's geomagnetic field in a similar way to the guys below lock it into a magnetic field;

http://quantumlevitation.com/see-it-in-action.html

[ZPinch]

What do you mean, the hoverboards on back to the future aren't real?! Does that mean going back to the future (forward?) can't be done either? I think i'm hitting some sort of paradigm shift here...

Aardwolf, yeah I wonder. I think we have alot to learn of superconductors at the moment. I have played with Barium IIRC and liquid nitrogen along with some big strong Neo mags, fun stuff. please correct me on the superconducting material, that doesn't sound right.

[CTJG 1986]

Hmm, this is an interesting subject.

Correct me if I'm wrong but since the standard model(with the exception of Quantum Mechanics) rejects the notion of "spooky" action at a distance then by conventional views gravity must operate by way of a wave form, no?

So if gravity is a product of wave actions then even from a conventional viewpoint using the relatively simplistic principles of super-positioning and harmonic resonance one could produce antithetical gravitational wave forms at the correct frequency to "cancel out" the natural gravity waves, no?

Thus you would have total freedom from gravitational force, literally you would have "anti-gravity".

Of course removing electrical and magnetic properties from such an endeavor and thus ignoring the (to my view) obvious electrical/magnetic cause(s) of gravity means that from a conventional viewpoint there is no possible way to produce such gravity waves "artificially", as far as I can figure anyways.

Hmm, I may not care much about money for myself but a million Euro's could fund a lot of very fun "backyard" research experiments.

I may have to put some of my crazy ideas on "defying" gravity to the test now... but how to do that without using electricity and magnetism I am completely baffled by at the moment, haha.

Any suggestions? Other than the one that involves creating my own planetary body...that may be beyond my capabilities right now...

Cheers,
Jonny

[CTJG 1986]

I just recalled a notion I had a few years ago that could be of interest here, unfortunately it would pretty much require that million Euro's to develop it in order to win a million Euro's(lol), if it worked(unlikely but possible).

Simply put it involves building a large sphere of high-mass/density material, preferably non-conductive to eliminate any claims that any effects produced are electromagnetic, and having the mass distribution of that sphere be strategically unbalanced.

By rotating the sphere at high velocity in the opposite direction of the Earth's rotation it would produce a "wobbling" effect similar to the Earth's only in antithetical form, theoretically producing antithetical gravity waves.

Such a device would not be capable of levitating itself or "flying" or anything like that I don't believe, the original notion I had was basically a "gravity wave nullification" of sorts that would cancel out gravity waves in the vicinity of the sphere and thus produce a "zero-G" environment around the sphere, not levitate the sphere itself(impractical even if possible).

It's an interesting train of thought, however it likely would fall short of the requirements since it would need significant electromagnetic input into either a separate or directly connected device to impart the high level of rotation required(either through a hard-line or large battery system).

It's a bit more complex than just that but that is the foundational hypothesis.

I'm sure somebody out there has tried it before, and likely it would produce no real results and even if it did produce results it could require very fine tuning to find the correct frequency(ies) to produce those effects in detectable ways.

It could take a very long time to tune such a device to find the "working" frequency(ies), if it actually worked.

But hey it's an idea to start with, and I haven't seen or heard many other ideas that aren't directly related to electromagnetic effects so it's better than nothing.

Edit: The original notion came to me while researching spherical and string harmonics, specifically while reviewing a document collection published by Jason Verbelli on Scribd titled "Harmonics of Wobbling Spheres and Equatorial Rings", available here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52771110/Harm ... rial-Rings

I don't agree with everything put forward in the collection of documents, but there is definitely some valuable info contained within worth reviewing(though I assume many around here already have).

Cheers,
Jonny

[CTJG 1986]

Sorry for the triple post, but in regards to that last post obviously in mechanical, acoustical and electromagnetic systems the difference between a "right-side up"(positive) or "inverted"(negative/antithetical) typically reflected wave is having an open ended system vs a closed ended system.

How you could achieve a close ended system to reflect antithetical gravity waves with any non-electromagnetic system is a bit mystifying, hence my suggestion to simply rotate a sphere in the opposite direction of the Earth's rotation with a "wobble" similar to the Earths.

Perhaps that won't produce anything or simply reproduce "positive" waves that will have no "anti-gravity" effects(assuming natural gravity waves are "positive" in nature).

Maybe an idea would be to have two spheres with the solid high-density sphere inside a larger hollow but also high-density sphere rotating together(or in opposite directions perhaps)?

That way any "positive" gravity waves that may be emitted by the inner sphere could be "reflected" in inverted/antithetical form by the outer sphere, causing the necessary harmonic cancellation of both waves and thus negating the gravitational force within the area between the two spheres?

Now I'm kind of obsessed with this, where there is a will there has to be a way.

It would be so much easier if they recognized the electrical properties of gravitational force and thus we could use much simpler electromagnetic methods(such as harmonically "locking in" to the Earth's electromagnetic fields as mentioned previously here).

This is going to drive me nuts now since all the ideas in the world won't change the fact I lack both the financial resources and the fabricating skills to actually build anything that I can come up with right now to put it to the test, haha.

Cheers,
Jonny