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current flows
Current flows, no matter the size of the circuit. For the univers to not self destruct or short itself out, the current must flow in one direction. In the electric univers, galaxies arrer either motors or generators feeding of or complementing the universal current. The current then must be entering at one side of the galaxy or cluster and exiting on the other side. I have read soomething not so long ago I believe on this forum, about the evolutuinary changes that seem to coincide with the cycle of the galactical revolution of 140 millions years. Changes have been noted to happen at 70 millions years and 140 millions years. As the Milky way is powered by the universal current, every so often our solar system must travel through the point of entry and the point of exit of the circuit. I don't imagine we have any way of finding which way is the point of entry and the exit point of the current. In this fashion we would know which way the current is flowing in our local cluster. Also if we could theoritically find how long ago the last change happened, and pinpoint the location of our solar system at the time in relation to the position of the milky way in space, we would know where the maximum charges are happening, and by observing the area of the milky way now travelling through this surge we may be able to observe some electrical phenomenum happening now to the star systems travelling through that area. If anyone has more info on the 140 millions years cycle please pitch in. regards Beekeeper
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Re: current flows
just another note on the universal current, since the galaxies and stars are travelling at break neck speeds in space how does the current adjust to the movements of the celestial bodies and keep contact with them so that the circuit is not broken. Could it be that the current is not really a circuit but as I had speculated before, the univers is floating in a sea of electrical activity, the current being present wherever you may be. Could it be that we actually live in a giant hydrogen fuel cell? huh 
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Re: current flows
beekeeper,
What if?
Nothing is moving except the flow?
What if?
The flow allows memory?
What If?
The flow is on geometry of phase conjugate laser beams?
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea?
Kevin
What if?
Nothing is moving except the flow?
What if?
The flow allows memory?
What If?
The flow is on geometry of phase conjugate laser beams?
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea?
Kevin
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Re: current flows
Kevin said:
What if?
Nothing is moving except the flow?
What if?
The flow allows memory?
What If?
The flow is on geometry of phase conjugate laser beams?
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea?
What if?
Tesla's Aether was a Sea of Whirlpools
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?nam ... t&sid=2293
The Aether and the Electric SeaRegarding Tesla's aether, John J O'Neill stated,
"Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance." (Grotz, 1997)
The important thing to note about Tesla's aether is the fact that it is filled with vortices. Bernoulli and Maxwell both worked with a sea of tiny aethereal vortices, and Maxwell used Bernoullian hydrodynamics to successfully calculate the forces of electromagnetism.
http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe12.pdf
An Intuitive Explanation of Phase ConjugationThe aether alone cannot explain electromagnetism. In order to explain electromagnetism, we need to have a sea of tiny aether vortices. In order to have a sea of tiny aether vortices, we need to have sources and sinks in the aether. These sources and sinks are what we call electric particles and it is the ‘Electric Sea’ of electric particles that renders the aether into tiny vortices and causes the fundamental hydrodynamical aethereal forces to manifest themselves in the particular guise of electromagnetism. This paper aims to clarify the relationship between the aether and the electric sea. The solenoidal alignment of the electric sea can reverse a mutually attractive gravitational/electrostatic force into a mutually repulsive electrostatic force. The attractive gravitational and electrostatic forces arise primarily out of pure aether hydrodynamics.
http://sharp.bu.edu/~slehar/PhaseConjug ... ugate.html
Quantum Coherence and Being ONEPhase conjugation is a fascinating phenomenon with very unusual characteristics and properties. It operates somewhat like holography, but it is a dynamic hologram, whose "holographic plate" is defined by interfering wave fronts in a nonlinear optical medium, rather than etched as a static pattern on a glass plate. In this page I provide an intuitive explanation of the essential principles behind phase conjugation.
http://jeweledway.com/?tag=phase-conjugation
The Double Slit ExperimentMacroscopic Quantum States
When we talk about the quantum world we are usually talking about quanta at the microscopic level. There are though circumstances of large-scale (macroscopic) quantum mechanics. These large-scale circumstances are usually discussed in terms of quantum coherence for such novel phenomena as lasers, holography, superconductivity and superfluidity.
What we are talking about in such circumstances are coherent superpositions of fields where the physical properties are typically uniform, in phase or coherent. Most of these states happen at temperatures around 10-7 K. This is close to absolute zero and far from the temperatures we usually see in our environment everyday.
However, there are some areas in ceramics and lasers where this is not the case. This has lead to speculations about what more we might discover and where else quantum coherence might be observed at higher temperatures.
For example, with lasers we find a unique principal of time reversal in the area on non-linear optics.
Novel Examples of Quantum Coherence
A phase conjugate mirror is a nonlinear optical effect to precisely reverse the direction of propagation of each plane wave in an arbitrary beam of light, thereby causing the return beam to exactly retrace the path of the incident beam. This is called wavefront reversal and is similar to holography (wavefront reconstruction) but is dynamic and not static.
Here is another way of thinking about such properties. Imagine you are holding an inexpensive laser pointer in your hand and were to point it at a phase conjugate mirror. No matter what angle you point the laser towards the mirror, the light will never reflect off of it at an incident angle. Instead it returns back to you or rather the laser. So in a way it will appear to be absorbed 100 percent by the mirror rather than reflected – though such is not the case.
These techniques can be used to remove noise from within optical systems. There happens to be an area of advance study at DARPA (inventors of the Internet – sorry Mr. Vice President) who are using it to create retro-reflectors for the purpose of invisibility cloaks. Did we just teleport away onto a Cleon Bird-of-Prey in the movie Star Trek? Perhaps so.
In other areas of quantum coherence we come across peculiar things such as zero resistance in terms of friction as well as electrical transmission or conductance. With superfluidity liquids lose their viscosity and actually flow up and over walls as illustrated in the image below.
Being a contemplative and speculative person, I wonder what correlates might exist in the area of conscious awareness and quantum coherence. Is there something at play where we might tune our awareness in a way analogous to temperatures approaching absolute zero? Might things such as group focus, chanting or unity prayer produce mysterious results in a coherent totality or sub-totality?
Thich Nhat Hanh once said, “If you touch one thing with deep awareness, you touch everything.” That to me is the essence of quantum coherence as it might be applied to our conscious awareness and our reciprocal relationship with the world as a whole.
http://jeweledway.com/?p=871
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Or a cosmic brain?beekeeper wrote:Could it be that we actually live in a giant hydrogen fuel cell? huh
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Re: current flows
As in the flow being atoms and stillness being the space in between?kevin wrote:beekeeper,
What if?
Nothing is moving except the flow?
What if?
The flow allows memory?
What If?
The flow is on geometry of phase conjugate laser beams?
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea?
Kevin
Can you elaborate?The flow is on geometry of phase conjugate laser beams?
JJ
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Re: current flows
JaJa,
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea of a super dense substance?
Then You have a medium for the force to interact with and upon.
The sea of universe then is all there actually is, no-thing been where it is all aligned along geometric pathways.
The geometry is of fibonacci sequencing, and eminates from source, that central source system imitates itself in scalar fashion in all of creation.
Thus every finite part of every atom is the centre of the universe relative to itself.
The force that operates this system does so in torroidal fashion in a continuum from each source point in figure of eight pathways that leads to opposite spin on it's outward journey to it''s inward journey.
This system leads to infinite unique pathways that attract each other in geometric fashion in accordance with fibonacci sequencing.
The force from source of universe enables this system to operate and to amass as mass, as We know it.
The force is the creator, and because it is so mind blowingly complex, We have assigned a seperate super being diety to be this creator.
We have been fooled by our own limited survival senses into thinking that mass and matter are seperate, and it is hardly surprising?
Once You grasp that everything, space included is this one substance that is super dense, then You can build upon that, as is all We percieve.
That substance has IMHO the inbuilt ability to hold multiple dimensions in the exact self same local of itself, mass and matter we know been the resistance created by super complex pathways within the local substance, when it is all aligned we call it vacuum, which offers no resistance.
this is due to the mass and matter actually not moving as such, but switching all the substance as the field around whatever encounters the signals of attraction and repulsion in whatever orientation the signals demand.
Thus YOU are a myriad of zillions of fields that accumulate into the unique field that is YOU.
Every atom is doing the same.
The so called WIND is merely the atoms of the atmosphere reacting to the zones of attraction or repulsions and re-orientating accordingly and thus what we think of as moving.
Water is reacting the same due to it been made of three atoms with different orientations in the oxygen and hydrogen atoms that then attract each other, we call the accumulation PRESSURE, I think the whales know how to create a strong FIELD about themselves to locally nulify this so called pressure.
kevin
What if?
The universe is a perfectly packed sea of a super dense substance?
Then You have a medium for the force to interact with and upon.
The sea of universe then is all there actually is, no-thing been where it is all aligned along geometric pathways.
The geometry is of fibonacci sequencing, and eminates from source, that central source system imitates itself in scalar fashion in all of creation.
Thus every finite part of every atom is the centre of the universe relative to itself.
The force that operates this system does so in torroidal fashion in a continuum from each source point in figure of eight pathways that leads to opposite spin on it's outward journey to it''s inward journey.
This system leads to infinite unique pathways that attract each other in geometric fashion in accordance with fibonacci sequencing.
The force from source of universe enables this system to operate and to amass as mass, as We know it.
The force is the creator, and because it is so mind blowingly complex, We have assigned a seperate super being diety to be this creator.
We have been fooled by our own limited survival senses into thinking that mass and matter are seperate, and it is hardly surprising?
Once You grasp that everything, space included is this one substance that is super dense, then You can build upon that, as is all We percieve.
That substance has IMHO the inbuilt ability to hold multiple dimensions in the exact self same local of itself, mass and matter we know been the resistance created by super complex pathways within the local substance, when it is all aligned we call it vacuum, which offers no resistance.
this is due to the mass and matter actually not moving as such, but switching all the substance as the field around whatever encounters the signals of attraction and repulsion in whatever orientation the signals demand.
Thus YOU are a myriad of zillions of fields that accumulate into the unique field that is YOU.
Every atom is doing the same.
The so called WIND is merely the atoms of the atmosphere reacting to the zones of attraction or repulsions and re-orientating accordingly and thus what we think of as moving.
Water is reacting the same due to it been made of three atoms with different orientations in the oxygen and hydrogen atoms that then attract each other, we call the accumulation PRESSURE, I think the whales know how to create a strong FIELD about themselves to locally nulify this so called pressure.
kevin
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Kevin
some great what-ifs there. Some of it went straight over my head I'm afraid. Sorry for the questions.
some great what-ifs there. Some of it went straight over my head I'm afraid. Sorry for the questions.
Hasn't this been called the aether, αἰθήρ, aithēr, æther or etherThe universe is a perfectly packed sea of a super dense substance?
Your thoughts on the nature and origin of force?Then You have a medium for the force to interact with and upon.
Has it ever been determined if DNA coding follows such sequencing?The geometry is of fibonacci sequencing, and eminates from source
What is the finite part of an atom?Thus every finite part of every atom is the centre of the universe relative to itself
As suggested by John W Keely with SVP?The force from source of universe enables this system to operate and to amass as mass, as We know it
What is force?The force is the creator, and because it is so mind blowingly complex, We have assigned a seperate super being diety to be this creator.
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Re: current flows
JaJa,
You ask a lot.
I don't care what anyone has called anything, I am just thinking for myself.
I see( litterally at times) all as ONE, one substance with a force permeating it that can locally orientate the so so small points of this one substance to arrange into what We call mass and matter.
There is NO seperation between all points in universe, they are simply re-orientated into ever more complicated orientations of the one substance, the more complicated the denser, as we know dense, it is actually more resistance.
You are this substance as am I, you are uniquelly composed of a myriad of orientations of this substance, and are enabled to remember how You are so arranged by the force that permeates all, and it does so in a duality of spin that providesinfinite orientations to arrange in the way that the information coding built into what can best be called SEEDS.
Those seeds need a stimulous of the duality to begin to locally re-orientate the base substance, We call this growth.
The base substance I see as super dense and perfectly packed, and of geometric form.
The amount of the duality of spin charghes required to enable whatever to remember how it is arranged varies with the complexity.
If you think of burning wood as releasing this duality and creating light and heat as it does so, which is a sign of stress in the base substance occuring as it locally re-orientates.
Because We fail to recognise that there is a sea of a substance that is everything, and that there is this duality of spin charge locally orientating the base substance, we have become locked down and veiled from universe.
I have this wonderfull site to thank for lifting parts of that veil.
Kevin
You ask a lot.
I don't care what anyone has called anything, I am just thinking for myself.
I see( litterally at times) all as ONE, one substance with a force permeating it that can locally orientate the so so small points of this one substance to arrange into what We call mass and matter.
There is NO seperation between all points in universe, they are simply re-orientated into ever more complicated orientations of the one substance, the more complicated the denser, as we know dense, it is actually more resistance.
You are this substance as am I, you are uniquelly composed of a myriad of orientations of this substance, and are enabled to remember how You are so arranged by the force that permeates all, and it does so in a duality of spin that providesinfinite orientations to arrange in the way that the information coding built into what can best be called SEEDS.
Those seeds need a stimulous of the duality to begin to locally re-orientate the base substance, We call this growth.
The base substance I see as super dense and perfectly packed, and of geometric form.
The amount of the duality of spin charghes required to enable whatever to remember how it is arranged varies with the complexity.
If you think of burning wood as releasing this duality and creating light and heat as it does so, which is a sign of stress in the base substance occuring as it locally re-orientates.
Because We fail to recognise that there is a sea of a substance that is everything, and that there is this duality of spin charge locally orientating the base substance, we have become locked down and veiled from universe.
I have this wonderfull site to thank for lifting parts of that veil.
Kevin
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Re: current flows
.The base substance I see as super dense and perfectly packed, and of geometric form
Right on Kevin. I think we look at our reality the wrong way around. The empty
space is really ultra dense, and we are interference patterns in this matrix.
The smallest energy packets in the Universe will have the highest frequency,
their natural resonance, and so will have the highest energy density. Though
their individual energy might be vanishingly small, their huge numbers result
in incredible total energy.
Some of this underlying dense energy can be released in experiments in salt
water plasma explosions initiated by electrical pulses. Teslas pulse
amplification.
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/powergain.htmAnother example occurs when we cause a disruptive plasma arc in water, resulting in a water-plasma explosion, which releases inordinate amounts of energy, relative to the energy originally discharged into the water. This situation also causes "anomalous" pressure increases in saltwater-plasma explosions, on the order of 20,000 atmospheres, which cannot be explained by Joule heating, electrodynamic field theory, nor even by Newtonian electrodynamics (along the lines of Ampere and Neumann). Relativistic electrodynamics predicts an increase in pressure on the order of 0.2 times, by way of Lorentz current pinching forces occurring in the arc, whereas actual measurements result in pressure increases on the order of 6000 times. Ampere's force laws predict pressure gains between 10 and 200 times, still far short of the pressure increases actually observed in these situations. From these observations, it must be concluded that the pressure increases observed in the case of a salt water- plasma arc explosion are at least 90% "anomalous". Again, the key here is an impulse situation which approaches the electrical ideal of the Dirac delta function, that is, an infinitely fast rise time of an infinitely high voltage. Here, the ideal is an infinitely fast rise time of an infinitely powerful accelerative mechanical force.
The geometric nature of the point charge packets and the voids is from
the constructive or destructive interference of the underlying waves,
Bucky Fuller can explain it all, though in fairness, I believe some of
the Greek scientist-philosophers were aware of this long ago.
This release of an underlying energy is also, as far as I can see, the
reason for the extreme amounts of energy released by quasars and other
energetic cosmic objects. There is pulsing in the Birkeland currents at
the arc/spark focus that is outputting far more energy than the flux
tubes themselves are carrying.
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
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GaryN,
You can well understand why perhaps some consider that there is a massive manipulation of the true nature of universe?
For whatever reason/s.
I am beginning to be able to actually see how humans look like, and the stick man petroglyphs are actually what We are, not simple line scratchings, We actually are the same as them.
We have a series of torroidal geometries associated with that central stick man, with the heart been centre, and largest.
http://www.sangraal.com/incubation.htm
When You begin to see this it is somewhat bizzare, but You are given a glimpse of how the whole system operates, and it revolves around a central point with figure of eight pathways about it.
The charge sort of rolls out the figure of eight and turns around on it's inward journey back to source, and then out again on its other outward journey.
The inward and outward paths never collide as they are oppositively charged and thus repel each other off course fractionally onto a different figure of eight, the whole then looks like a torroidal flower of life.
You have to be able to fully realise that this is what you actually are, and not the illusion we percieve.
Then You really realise that what matters is not the physical, but this none physical, and that life force is vital for all transmutations of all in universe, and perhaps We are not masters of this planet at all?
Kevin
You can well understand why perhaps some consider that there is a massive manipulation of the true nature of universe?
For whatever reason/s.
I am beginning to be able to actually see how humans look like, and the stick man petroglyphs are actually what We are, not simple line scratchings, We actually are the same as them.
We have a series of torroidal geometries associated with that central stick man, with the heart been centre, and largest.
http://www.sangraal.com/incubation.htm
When You begin to see this it is somewhat bizzare, but You are given a glimpse of how the whole system operates, and it revolves around a central point with figure of eight pathways about it.
The charge sort of rolls out the figure of eight and turns around on it's inward journey back to source, and then out again on its other outward journey.
The inward and outward paths never collide as they are oppositively charged and thus repel each other off course fractionally onto a different figure of eight, the whole then looks like a torroidal flower of life.
You have to be able to fully realise that this is what you actually are, and not the illusion we percieve.
Then You really realise that what matters is not the physical, but this none physical, and that life force is vital for all transmutations of all in universe, and perhaps We are not masters of this planet at all?
Kevin
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Re: current flows
hi Kevin
I appear to have caused offence. Sorry, it wasn't my intention. Yes I ask questions because I am interested.
JJ
I appear to have caused offence. Sorry, it wasn't my intention. Yes I ask questions because I am interested.
It would appear we share similar thoughts, in the "what produces consciousness" thread i had this to say;I see( litterally at times) all as ONE, one substance with a force permeating it that can locally orientate the so so small points of this one substance to arrange into what We call mass and matter.
I agree there is no seperation, i believe this has been shown to varying degrees by Aspect, Grinberg, Fenwick, Wackerman and Standish since 1982. I have read a great deal about Bohm, Keeley and Walter Russell, who incidently has a fascinating take on spin and its product - stillness. I also completely agree about the geometry. I see it. I also regard that what I see taking place above is the same as what is taking place below, or if you like, the outside is the same as the inside, visa versa.Could it contract (the substance), i.e. squeeze or pinch itself to such a degree that the knowledge of "everything" is compacted into a thread of light that is so narrow that its field of vision is reduced to the point where it effectively becomes knowledge-less? After which, that thread of light (knowledge) slowly begins to expand or unfold?
JJ
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Re: current flows
JaJa,
No, no offense felt.
It was just a lot to ask for an answer to.
As always the answer is 42.
Kevin
No, no offense felt.
It was just a lot to ask for an answer to.
As always the answer is 42.
Kevin
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I think manipulation of the truth is painfully obvious. The question is why?You can well understand why perhaps some consider that there is a massive manipulation of the true nature of universe?
is it a complete figure of eight or two seperate circles spinning around a central point in opposing directionsWhen You begin to see this it is somewhat bizzare, but You are given a glimpse of how the whole system operates, and it revolves around a central point with figure of eight pathways about it.

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interesting, this adds up to 6. Spin the 6 180 degrees and we get a 9As always the answer is 42.
thanx
JJ
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