How the Sun works (electrically)

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How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by Siggy_G » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:15 am

From watching the Electric Universe movie, it is explained how the Sun could work from an electrical point of view.

What still seems unexplained to me is, how can the Sun both receive electrical energy from outside, and at the same time emit radiation and plasma? Wouldn't one see some sort of reaction or effect of this currents conflict? It receives energy radially and emits energy radially.

Second question, what is the source of the energy, from a gallactical point of view? What generates electricity in the centre of the gallaxies? I guess this is some of the fundamentals that need to be in place.

The focus on electricity and magnetism in space, based on the fact that 99.9% of the Universe exists of matter in the plasma state, seems far more scientifically correct, than considering gravity as the only driving force.

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Re: How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by junglelord » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:54 pm

I feel the Tesla Impulse Magnifying Transmitter is the most likely model for a Z/Theta Pinch Transmitter Receiver.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 53&start=0
This is my own thoughts about a EM Model, but a careful review of Maxwell indicates that yes this is in fact very true.
This device transmitts and receives Longitudinal EM, not Transverse. This involves Quantum Entanglement circa 1898.
That is one road of exploration. Since the sun is seen as a transformer in most respects as well as a Z Pinch, well the relationships are ovbious.

Time Reversed EM is another thing you may want to read up on.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 34&start=0
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Re: How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by seasmith » Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:23 pm

Siggy_G wrote:
What still seems unexplained to me is, how can the Sun both receive electrical energy from outside, and at the same time emit radiation and plasma?
Siggy,

There is a lot of ongoing research into heliospheric inflows and outflows.
For example:
The Solar Wind in the Outer Heliosphere
Physical Processes in the Termination Shock and Heliosheath
1 Introduction
We give a brief introduction to the solar wind in the outer heliosphere (HS) and discuss the
interaction of the solar wind with the interstellar medium. Figure 1 shows an overview of
the heliosphere, the bubble blown into the local interstellar cloud (LIC) by the solar wind
which contains the Sun. Parker (34) developed a theory for a supersonic solar wind at the
dawn of the space age. His hypotheses...[/quote
]

ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/plasma/publicat ... e_bern.pdf

The Sun, since its birth has been constantly pulsing, its surface heaving in and out in a rhythmic fashion. Its diameter expanding and contracting. As it does this, it is conveying out from the Corona into the heliosphere, pulse waves of various time periods from at least 5-mins. to 160-mins. These plasma pulse waves traveling in the medium of the solar wind, are in a form known as a long period, Ion wave.


These longitudinal waves are also known as Ion acoustic waves. (Ion-acoustic waves in a collisionless plasma are analogous to sound waves in a neutral gas. Sound waves are pressure waves which propagate due to particle collisions. Like sound waves, ion-acoustic waves are also pressure waves, but they propagate via a mechanism other than collisions. Because the ions are charged, any displacement from their equilibrium position causes a charge imbalance. This in turn induces an electric field which causes the neighboring ions to move as if they had suffered a collision with the original ion.)21 These collisions cause the compression and rarefaction of molecules of matter, creating higher density areas and lower density areas in relation to the wavelengths of the pulses traveling through the plasma. To put it simply, an acoustic wave vibrates all molecules longitudinally: directly toward as well away from the waves' source.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... iagram%205


[ A Particularly intuitive center graphic, thank you Grey Cloud]

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http://www.spirasolaris.ca/
After escaping from the Sun’s gravitational field, the solar wind flows outward radially like water from a rotating garden sprinkler. Each drop moves straight out from the source, but the pattern rotates. The streams travel at speeds that vary from 300 to 1000 km/s and are independent of
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their distance from the Sun. The density of the solar wind varies between 1 and 10 particles/cm and diminishes with the inverse square of the distance from the Sun. Solar activity can cause sporadic order-of-magnitude fluctuations, however
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http://genesismission.jpl.nasa.gov/educ ... arWind.pdf

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The global heliosphere is created by the supersonic solar wind diverting the interstellar plasma flow around the Sun. Interstellar ions and neutral atoms flow at 26 km/s relative to the Sun. The solar wind, flowing outward at 400-800 km/s, makes a transition to subsonic flow at the termination shock. Beyond this, the solar wind is turned toward the heliotail, carrying with it the spiraling interplanetary magnetic field. The heliopause separates solar material and magnetic fields from interstellar material and magnetic fields. Interstellar neutral atoms can penetrate the heliosphere, but interstellar ions are diverted around it. Beyond the heliopause there may also be a bow shock formed in the interstellar medium...
http://interstellar.jpl.nasa.gov/inters ... ction.html


Just Google Solar Wind with Interstellar Plasma Flow.

~My own comment would be to consider Filamentary, as well as Radial ionic/EM exchanges.

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Re: How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by MGmirkin » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:01 pm

Siggy_G wrote:Second question, what is the source of the energy, from a galactic point of view? What generates electricity in the center of the galaxies? I guess this is some of the fundamentals that need to be in place.
Well, part of the answer (from Thornhill anyway) revolves around the behavior of plasmoids:

(Electric Galaxies)
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=2m1r5m3b

Likewise, currents are conjectured to flow along the spiral arms of galaxies, and probably also axially...

(Seeing Circuits [2])
http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch ... rcuits.htm

Circuits within circuits, and all that. If galaxies are powered externally, that energy must come from somewhere. The where and how is not yet known (probably beyond the scope of our current ability to probe our universe). May never be...

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Re: How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by GaryN » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:21 pm

MGmirkin posted:
Circuits within circuits, and all that. If galaxies are powered externally, that energy must come from somewhere. The where and how is not yet known (probably beyond the scope of our current ability to probe our universe). May never be...
God may not play dice with the Universe, but it looks to me like an eternal game of Rock, Paper, Scissors! Yes, the energy goes from one manifestation to another..
P.S. Sorry for my absence the last month-ish. Was on vacation the first week, working and moving the second week, and snowed in to the new house without internet the 3rd & 4th weeks by 'global warming.'
Sure hope you got a woodstove (and wood) in your new place! Nothing nicer than seeing and feeling those chemically stored photons coming back at you.

From:
http://www.unc.edu/~gravity/photon.pdf
Energy cannot propagate unless it changes form.
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Re: How the Sun works (electrically)

Post by MGmirkin » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:43 am

GaryN wrote:Sure hope you got a woodstove (and wood) in your new place! Nothing nicer than seeing and feeling those chemically stored photons coming back at you.
Mercifully a working furnace in the new place. The one in the place we were renting died, apparently. Worked fine last year. This year it just refused to turn on...

Finally getting things unpacked. Slept in an actual BED for the first time in 2 weeks. Sucks when you get snowed in before you get furniture moved. But, neither here nor there. Back to your regularly scheduled topics.

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