Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

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Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by MGmirkin » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:03 am

I've been following this story for a couple days, but forgot to post a link. Will remedy that immediately!

The story comes now from 2 independent sources:

(ATIC - Advanced Thin Ionization Calorimeter)
http://atic.phys.lsu.edu/aticweb/

(The Milagro Gamma-Ray Observatory)
http://www.lanl.gov/milagro/

The first story was from ATIC:

(Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object)
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008 ... icrays.htm

(An excess of cosmic ray electrons at energies of 300–800 GeV)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 07477.html (article)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 477-s1.pdf (supplementary info)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 77_ft.html (Figures & Tables)

The second story comes from Milagro Gamma-Ray Observatory:

(Los Alamos Observatory Fingers Cosmic Ray 'Hot Spots')
http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuse ... y_id/15130

(Puzzling hot spots in the cosmic-ray sky)
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v1/37

And the two independent observations may or may not be from the same source / mechanism...

(MILAGRO Detects Cosmic Ray Hot Spots)
http://umdphysics.umd.edu/index.php/com ... e/264.html

Plenty of interesting bits to chew on there...

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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by seasmith » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:35 pm

Follow-up to ATIC data, comparing Pamella satellite data:
The results came on the heels of a report earlier this fall from Pamela, a satellite built by Italian, German, Russian and Swedish scientists to study cosmic rays. Pamela scientists reported in talks and a paper posted on the Internet that the satellite had recorded an excess of high-energy positrons. This, they said, “may constitute the first indirect evidence of dark matter particle annihilations,” or a nearby pulsar.
Moreover, as Dr. Kane pointed out, Pamela carries a magnet that allows it to distinguish electrons from positrons — being oppositely charged, they bend in opposite directions going through the magnetic field. But the ATIC instrument did not include a magnet and so cannot be sure that it was seeing any positrons at all: no antimatter, no exotic dark matter, at least at those high energies.
But if he is right, Dr. Wefel said that the ATIC data favored something even more exotic than supersymmetry, namely a particle that is lost in the fifth dimension. String theory predicts that there are at least six dimensions beyond our simple grasp, wrapped up so tightly we cannot see them or park in them
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~Would that be 9 dimensions total ?
The Nature paper includes data from the first two balloon flights. It shows a bump, over theoretical calculations of cosmic ray intensities, at energies of 500 billion to 800 billion electron volts, a measure of both energy and mass in physics
There's their EU clue >>>

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/scien ... ef=science
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Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Post by WhiteLight » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:38 pm

So Nasa says -

Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Nov. 19, 2008: An international team of researchers has discovered a puzzling surplus of high-energy electrons bombarding Earth from space. The source of these cosmic rays is unknown, but it must be close to the solar system and it could be made of dark matter. Their results are being reported in the Nov. 20th issue of the journal Nature.

This is a big discovery," says co-author John Wefel of Louisiana State University. "It's the first time we've seen a discrete source of accelerated cosmic rays standing out from the general galactic background."

Galactic cosmic rays are subatomic particles accelerated to almost light speed by distant supernova explosions and other violent events. They swarm through the Milky Way, forming a haze of high energy particles that enter the solar system from all directions. Cosmic rays consist mostly of protons and heavier atomic nuclei with a dash of electrons and photons spicing the mix.

To study the most powerful and interesting cosmic rays, Wefel and colleagues have spent the last eight years flying a series of balloons through the stratosphere over Antarctica. Each time the payload was a NASA-funded cosmic ray detector named ATIC, short for Advanced Thin Ionization Calorimeter. The team expected ATIC to tally the usual mix of particles, mainly protons and ions, but the calorimeter found something extra: an abundance of high-energy electrons.

..... further.....

"The source of these exotic electrons must be relatively close to the solar system—no more than a kiloparsec away," says co-author Jim Adams of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center.

Why must the source be nearby? Adams explains: "High-energy electrons lose energy rapidly as they fly through the galaxy. They give up energy in two main ways: (1) when they collide with lower-energy photons, a process called inverse Compton scattering, and (2) when they radiate away some of their energy by spiraling through the galaxy's magnetic field." By the time an electron has traveled a whole kiloparsec, it isn't so 'high energy' any more.

High-energy electrons are therefore local. Some members of the research team believe the source could be less than a few hundred parsecs away. For comparison, the disk of the spiral Milky Way galaxy is about thirty thousand parsecs wide. (One parsec approximately equals three light years.)

"Unfortunately," says Wefel, "we can't pinpoint the source in the sky.
" :? Although ATIC does measure the direction of incoming particles, it's difficult to translate those arrival angles into celestial coordinates. For one thing, the detector was in the basket of a balloon bobbing around the South Pole in a turbulent vortex of high-altitude winds; that makes pointing tricky. Moreover, the incoming electrons have had their directions scrambled to some degree by galactic magnetic fields. "The best ATIC could hope to do is measure a general anisotropy—one side of the sky versus the other."

This uncertainty gives free rein to the imagination. The least exotic possibilities include, e.g., a nearby pulsar, a 'microquasar' or a stellar-mass black hole—all are capable of accelerating electrons to these energies. It is possible that such a source lurks undetected not far away. NASA's recently-launched Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope is only just beginning to survey the sky with sufficient sensitivity to reveal some of these objects.

An even more tantalizing possibility is dark matter. :lol:

..... further.....

Testing this possibility is nontrivial because dark matter is so, well, dark. :roll: But it may be possible to find the cloud by looking for other annihilation products, such as gamma-rays. Again, the Fermi Space Telescope may have the best chance of pinpointing the source.

"Whatever it is," says Adams, "it's going to be amazing." :o

Full STORY <---- ;) ...... NASA
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Re: Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Post by junglelord » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:10 pm

I say they measured the Suns Electric Z Pinch Transformer Galactic electron current inflow.
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I say there is no external drive, save the galactic core, and that the sun is the object that is drawing the electrons in.
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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by junglelord » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:17 pm

I believe they have measured the Suns Z Pinch Transformer Current Input that needs to exist to have a Electric Sun.
I say there is no external object....thats why the dark matter crapshoot.
The sun is the object that is the cause of the energetic electrons....being drawn to the Anode Sun.
The terms “anode” and “cathode”
properly apply to function, not structure.
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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by htert2020 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:29 pm

The super-fast electrons discovered at the south pole by the ATIC team of researchers might be an electrical current coming from the sun. In 2007 and 2008, THEMIS satellites detected "magnetic ropes" connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the sun. These "magnetic ropes", which EU theorists recognize as Birkeland currents, have been confirmed by NASA to power the Aurora Borealis -- the so-called "Northern Lights" that light up the night sky along the Arctic Circle near the north pole. Auroras are also Birkeland currents.

Since Birkeland currents always flow along magnetic field lines, the ring-like auroras encircling the north and south poles indicate that an electrical current of significant intensity must be flowing through both poles along the rotational axis of the Earth. Indeed, temperature "hotspots" have been found at both poles of Saturn and at the south pole of its moon Enceladus. Double, dynamically moving hotspots have also been found at both poles of Venus. These Venusian hotspots resemble the cross-section of a Birkeland current and its double-helical tubes. A network of electric currents have been found connecting Jupiter's poles to its moons Io, Ganymede, and Europa. And aurorae have been found on all planets except Mercury.

So it would appear that the super-fast electrons discovered by ATIC at the south pole are part of a solar-system-wide electric power grid, not from some nearby "dark matter" or highly theoretical "multidimensional realities". Nor do those relativistic electrons originate from cosmic ray hotspots detected by MILAGRO, for MILAGRO is located only in the northern hemisphere -- and it's unlikely that intragalactic magnetic fields could have bent the path of the electrons in any major way. The discovery by ATIC provides further support and consistency to the Electric Universe model, particularly the parts dealing with a solar-system-wide power grid.

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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by junglelord » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:42 pm

Even steven, Suns Output...
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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by keeha » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:02 pm

Re: (MILAGRO Detects Cosmic Ray Hot Spots)
This allowed researchers for the first time to see statistical peaks in the number of cosmic-ray events originating from relatively small regions of the sky. Milagro observed an excess of cosmic ray protons in an area above and to the right of Orion, near the constellation Taurus. The other hot spot is a comma-shaped region in the sky near the constellation Gemini.
“Whatever the source of the protons we observed with Milagro, their path to Earth is deflected by the magnetic field of the Milky Way so that we cannot directly tell exactly where they originate,” said Goodman. “And whether the regions of excess seen by Milagro actually point to a source of cosmic rays, or are the result of some other unknown nearby effect is an important question raised by our observations.”
These locations could bookend the Galactic Anti-Centre?
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Re: Excess Cosmic Rays (Energetic Charged Particles)?

Post by vukcevic » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:46 am

Here I consider
relationship between solar activity and cosmic rays during Maunder minimum.
Two articles quoted bellow may indicate a direct link between solar magnetic activity and heliospheric current feedback.
Heliospheric modulation of cosmic rays and solar activity during the Maunder minimum USOSKIN Ilya G. et al.
In the present paper we compare the variations of cosmic ray intensity with solar and auroral activity during the Maunder minimum (1645-1715) when the Sun was extremely quiet. We use the newly presented group sunspot number series as a measure of early solar activity and the radiocarbon data as a proxy of cosmic ray intensity. We find that both cosmic ray intensity follows the dominant 22-year cyclicity with sunspot activity during the Maunder minimum. Moreover, the strict antiphase between the 22-year variation of cosmic ray intensity and sunspot activity suggests that the 22-year variation in cosmic ray intensity can be explained by the diffusion-dominated terms of cosmic ray modulation without significant drift effects. http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1124791
Variation of the cosmic ray intensity during the Maunder Minimum deduced from carbon-14 29th International Cosmic Ray Conference Pune (2005) Presenter: K. Masuda
We investigate the features of the eleven-year and the twenty-two year variation of the carbon-14 content. The carbon-14 records show remarkable twenty-two year structure which may be due to cyclic magnetic reversal of the Sun. The variation of carbon-14 content suggests that the polarity of the Sun was negative when the Maunder Minimum occurred. It is evident from the carbon-14 records in Figure 2 that the GCRs had retained cyclic variation through the Maunder Minimum with almost constant amplitude, even though such significant variation is not seen in the sunspot record.
http://dpnc.unige.ch/ams/ICRC-05/PAPERS ... 4-oral.pdf
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In red: equation as presented in http://www.vukcevic.co.uklink solar current (page3) and http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/astro-ph/papers ... 401107.pdf(page 1). Note that pre 1813 Sin instead Cos function is used
It is more than obvious that solar magnetic activity during Maunder minimum was proceeding as normal while sunspot activity was suppressed to a minimum.
Since Maunder type minima have been reoccurring irregularly for millennia, than they cannot be simply explained by planetary factors alone. External factors such as interstellar magnetic field and cosmic rays should be also considered.
An interpretation of these events :
Heliospheric current (from coronal holes) was interacting with planetary magnetospheres in a regular manner but negative feedback was sufficiently strong to shut down appearance of sunspots. This increase in the feedback may be a consequence of a possible change of intensity in the interstellar magnetic field (affecting heliospheric current by greatly distorting heliosphere) coinciding with a periodic reduction in activity as caused by the magnetospheric interaction; result a Dalton type minimum was forced into the Maunder minimum.

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Re: Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Post by hyper.real » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:12 pm

WhiteLight wrote:So Nasa says -

Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Galactic cosmic rays are subatomic particles...

The team expected ATIC to tally the usual mix of particles, mainly protons and ions, but the calorimeter found something extra: an abundance of high-energy electrons.
Given that they have found the "magnetic flux ropes" connecting Sun and Earth, you would think that discovering the electric currents involved would be inevitable. And indeed this report is suggestive.

But are they going to find electric currents? No, not when you've redefined cosmic rays, so that electrons (and photons, and subatomic particles, and...?) are also cosmic rays, as well the bona fide partially or fully ionized atoms of old. That means they can only ever find cosmic rays.

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