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Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:05 pm

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:26 pm

For anyone in California, the ongoing drought presents a good opportunity to get down in some dried out river and creek beds and look for signs of electromagnetic forces at work at the smaller scale, and maybe strike it rich too!

Prospectors Say Drought Has Created California’s 2nd Gold Rush
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Krubera Cave, Abkhazia – Deepest Known Cave on Earth
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Right, over many millions of years, water has dissolved away huge volumes of limestone to create the caves, parts of which look like they have been machined. I wonder where the outlet is, where all the dissolved limestone must have gone? Deeper still? And how does dissolved limestone get out of the passages that dead end?
This does not appear to me to be the work of subterranean glaciers though ;-), so what else could it be??
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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The Kjeragbolten boulder is wedged in a crevice that is much larger in scale than what I see in my local area, but the overall pattern is just the same. I find them along the coast, along inlets, and also along river and creek courses. The sides of the crevice are generally flat and smooth, there are shattered, angular rocks at the base, and at the top there is a melted looking rounding of the bedrock, and rounded boulders. The Norwegian coast could be a twin of the BC coast in many places.
In this image it can be seen where the wedged boulder was ejected from the top of the crevice, and I also see similar features, at smaller scale, locally. Quite often the ejected pieces will be discoloured, mostly pinkish or pinky brown.
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Mon May 26, 2014 10:12 pm

I was looking at some images taken on Baffin Island, Nunavut, and Mt Asgard really stands out:
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Mt.Thor is a little like Half Dome in Yosemite.
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I find it difficult to believe that glaciers have cut these features, but the geologists have come up with what they believe are the steps in the geomorphology process, along with lots of fancy technical terms and a timeline of when things happened.
As with all granite mountains, they must have formed deep within the Earth, and 'punched' up through the surface, there is no other explanation. As with this document from 1962, GEOLOGIC GUIDE TO THE MERCED CANYON AND YOSEMITE VALLEY, CALIFORNIA, and probably still today, they are trying to piece together a model that will explain when and how all the different features came about, but they admit it is a very complex, messy puzzle.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/onli ... /index.htm
Though even many EU proponents may not be able to accept it, it seems that all these features are best explained by the action of huge electrical and magnetic forces, the magnitudes of which really do beggar belief, but we need to consider that we are seeing these features from a human perspective, and that really, in the grand scheme, they are merely surface scratches on our planet.
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:45 pm

Not to be totally outdone by some of the more impressive monoliths,(as mentioned in Steve Smiths TPODs, https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2014/0 ... art-two-2/ ) we have on Vancouver Island some of our own oddities. Another volcanic core, with the surrounding material eroded away, according to the standard model:
Warden Peak
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AZXIR56pxIo/T ... G_3813.jpg
Close by is Victoria Peak, with her Crown.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AZXIR56pxIo/T ... G_2819.JPG

This rock I pulled out of Todd Creek, a location I have been focusing on due to the diversity of apparent electrical/plasma effects noted, is a bit of a puzzle. I took it from within a shallow bowl of similar rocks in one location in the creek bed, but there are lots of locations with white surfaced rocks all along the creek. I thought the white was a biological film at first, dried out when the creek dried up, but on closer inspection, it is not biological. The white part was facing upwards, as it was with all the surrounding rocks. I have had 3 opinions on what caused it, 2 from local rockhounds, and one from a petrologist, and the only thing they could come up with was that it had been sprayed with an acid. Close enough for this cowboy...
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:50 pm

This cobble caught my attention due to its split personality. However, it is easily noticeable that the patterns on either end have a swirling shape, and that there are many very fine lines or grooves that go all the way around.
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I don't think it is my imagination that the rock has circular patterns at the ends.
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A little hard to see here, but the circular lines are present.
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I'm believing that there was a high enough potential difference between the halves that a little surface discharge track was formed between the halves.
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At a larger scale, there are lots of examples of where it seems a rounded rock has formed between two objects that would have been at different potentials. With this one, a large chunk of rock that has been ejected from the bedrock walls of the river valley has fallen onto another piece that was on the river bed, and this has formed in between them. I won't believe that somehow this got caught between the pieces by sheer chance, or that it got washed into a gap between the two pieces later on.
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And larger again, this one has been formed similarly, as the smaller cobbles
on the left of the central boulder fit so precisely that the odds of them having been washed into the gap are impossibly large. The forked shape of the rock on the right also suggests a current flow formation.
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Is it just that I have a vivid imagination, or do these characteristics suggest very large scale EM activity?
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby Sparky » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:06 am

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:47 am

That's an impressive structure all right, but I don't see mention of a mascon associated with it, so it is not, IMO, an arc mode discharge. This page considers if it is a hydrological structure, but their 3d images show those telltale signs of electrical discharge tracks in the surrounding area. My money is on a glow mode discharge with the water outlets being surface discharge tracks. Would I find pebbles/cobbles/rounded boulders in those tracks?
Is This An Ancient Spring from the Vast Watery Deep ?
http://media.marine-geo.org/files/image ... review.jpg
http://primary-water.blogspot.ca/2012/0 ... yahoo.html
With the larger structures, it is and will for a long time be arguable about the cause, which is why I am looking at the smaller scale features found within what I consider to be the discharge tracks from large electrical events, but I include the pulsating nature of those electrical events, and especially the microwave frequency pulsations, which are the only way to explain the melting and shaping and metamorphosis of the originally only sandstone substrate. The Richat is all sandstone, so not the right type of event to have produced metamorphic rock.
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:02 pm

Well I couldn't stand working in my basement today, as perfect a day as could ever be had, so I went to a local beach and put in a good hike, and took some photos of some more (I'm sure) electrically modified oceanfront.
I sat in these extremely comfortable, tiny pebbles during refreshment, and got to looking closer at the pebbles. Hah! These little pebbles seem not to be bits chipped off larger rocks and then rounded by the tumbling action on the seashore. Even bye unaided close-up eyesight, I can see that the features in many of these pebbles are exquisite, small scale versions of their larger kin, with the delicate tendrils, veins, inclusions and patches of surface pattern all being at a scale in keeping with their size.
I'll obviously be looking at them under magnification sometime, right now I have to go back to my basement. :(

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Ella Road beach and Sooke Bluffs.
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