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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby 4realScience » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:49 pm

I agree with Nick C.


Odds are these two events are related. Were we to have another soon I would say that would clinch it. That would be three events and in the WW2 days they used to say:

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby kiwi » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:25 pm

Any guess's here? ... camera abberation? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VGZ_OTmC7E
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby kiwi » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:21 am

kiwi wrote:Any guess's here? ... camera abberation? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VGZ_OTmC7E


I think I got it now :oops: .. two Fluorescent lights hanging in the office reflecting off the inside of the window pane? better add one more :oops:

But quite interesting to see at the recording speed of the camera the "flux" inside the tubes twisting (just trying to save a bit of face here lol) :?
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby Sparky » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:20 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pXT_B4kx6YA

It appears to me that the meteor began to flare brightly, then it looks like it discharged to Earth, @41 sec there appears to be a discharge down. On to 44sec, after the huge flash, there appears to be a residual downward trail. The huge flash appears to have directed most of itself toward Earth, perpendicular to meteor path.

Are my eyes playing tricks on me.? :?
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby promethean » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:56 am

4realScience wrote:I agree with Nick C.


Odds are these two events are related. Were we to have another soon I would say that would clinch it. That would be three events and in the WW2 days they used to say:

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... y/1924483/



Anyone have a trajectory figured out for last nights San Fran meteor ? :?:
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:17 am

Are my eyes playing tricks on me.?


I suppose it could be a camera lens artifact, but as more footage becomes available I think more questions will be raised about the occurrence. On this vid, the explosions are more like high powered rifle or small cannon 'cracks', not sonic boom type noise. The way the windows shatter is also telling, but telling what? If the explosions are dielectric breakdowns of the layers of the object, and sound is really an electrical phenomena, than were those bangs created by some type of super-soliton, and the windows shattered by dielectric interactions with the glass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cRHsApzt8
Another thing that came to mind was wondering if an impactor could ever hit us head-on, or will they all have low angles of entry? If one could approach perpendicularly, would any explosions be much more powerful due to passing through a much steeper vertical electric field gradient?
Also, I don't think that when these objects enter out atmosphere they contain iron or other metals, they are rock which has undergone transmutation much as the David Hudson fractional vaporisation experiments seemed to show.
Anyway, I'd agree with your eyes Sparky, and it may be that the object was leaving an ion tail that would act as a conductor allowing charge equalisation between higher and lower elevations, and something has to happen to equalise that differential.
It could be a little scary if Earth was passing through a 'cloud' of such object though, imagine those events just happening one after the other for an extended period. Good time to be a glazier I suppose!
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby promethean » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:13 pm

No fragments found in that Russian lake..
.http://www.voanews.com/content/russian- ... 05170.html

Was it an electrical discharge ? :?
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby promethean » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:27 pm

promethean wrote:
4realScience wrote:I agree with Nick C.


Odds are these two events are related. Were we to have another soon I would say that would clinch it. That would be three events and in the WW2 days they used to say:

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... y/1924483/



Anyone have a trajectory figured out for last nights San Fran meteor ? :?:


:( there was a 3rd incident....and more ...Cuba was mentioned as well.
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A little bit of mainstream comet-asteriod confirmation

Unread postby bdw000 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:11 pm

Check out this link:

http://io9.com/the-strangest-asteroid-that-astronomers-had-ever-seen-456129607

From a "science fiction news" website with bits of science news thrown in.

The article begins:

"Sometimes the line separating "asteroid" from "comet" is a blurry one."

Very short, but mandatory reading for everyone here.
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Re: Asteroids

Unread postby Sparky » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:54 pm

Here is an asteroid that changes direction before it explodes.. :shock:
http://youtu.be/yCb4TDq7Kxg

Sonic booms heard.. ;)
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Origin of the asteroids belt and the Kuiper belt(s)

Unread postby Spektralscavenger » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:49 pm

There are too many, some of them too big and concentrated in specific orbits. That´s why I think the asteroids (or most of them) are the debris of at least one exploded planet and the "Kuipers" are the debris of at least two exploded planets. Maybe this happened within human history in the "Titans clash"? Jupiter could have destroyed the planet(s) past Mars orbit honoring the "not even all the others together could beat Him".

http://milesmathis.com/mars.html
http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp
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Re: Origin of the asteroids belt and the Kuiper belt(s)

Unread postby Sparky » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:42 pm

http://milesmathis.com/mars.html :shock:
A fertile and wild imagination. :!: :?
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Re: Origin of the asteroids belt and the Kuiper belt(s)

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:23 am

Sparky wrote:http://milesmathis.com/mars.html :shock:
A fertile and wild imagination. :!: :?


Maybe more on his perturbation theory clarifies this:
1) http://milesmathis.com/laplace.html
2) http://milesmathis.com/lap2.pdf

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Re: Origin of the asteroids belt and the Kuiper belt(s)

Unread postby Sparky » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:38 pm

D_Archer wrote:
Sparky wrote:http://milesmathis.com/mars.html :shock:
A fertile and wild imagination. :!: :?


Maybe more on his perturbation theory clarifies this:
1) http://milesmathis.com/laplace.html
2) http://milesmathis.com/lap2.pdf

Kind regards,
Daniel


I didn't say that he was in error.....just that he has quite the imagination. ;)
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Re: Origin of the asteroids belt and the Kuiper belt(s)

Unread postby Spektralscavenger » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:25 am

Imagination? The very first hypothesis about the asteroids was the exploded planet.

Although Van Flandern provides some evidence none of the mechanisms for planetary explosion seem convincent. Close encounters with bigger planets (g.e., Jupiter and Saturn) and colossal electric interactions is a much better idea. I can anything but wonder if the myths of the oceans made from the blood of a god and the lands from the body of a god have something to do with this.

Of course, given a planet about to explode no matter when or where we can ask what comes next. Models for stellar supernova based on purely mechanical expansion and spherical symmetry don´t match data. Probably the picture isn´t simply a shitload of rocks coming apart and involves cosmic lightning and asymmetrical ejection of fragments.
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