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Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby MrAmsterdam » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:32 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-britain-solar-idUSTRE77B3OX20110812

Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Everyone is pointing fingers -- at blundering politicians, hooded thugs, disaffected youths, bumbling police and greedy bankers -- but could the cause for all the madness really be the star at the center of our solar system?
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Some academics have claimed that such geomagnetic storms can affect humans, altering moods and leading people into negative behavior through effects on their biochemistry.

Some studies have found evidence that hospital admissions for depression rise during geomagnetic storms and that incidents of suicide increase.

A 2003 study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta found that such storms could affect the stock market, as traders were more likely to make pessimistic choices.

"Unusually high levels of geomagnetic activity have a negative, statistically and economically significant effect on the following week's stock returns for all US stock market indices," the authors found in their report.

It could of course be mere coincidence that this has been a rollercoaster week on the markets, and that Britain was rocked by a wave of ferocious rioting and looting.


Does the Earth’s magnetic field cause suicides? (New Scientist, 2008)
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... cides.html

Anna Krivelyova en Cesare Robotti, Playing the Field: Geomagnetic Storms and the Stock Market, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank (2003) http://www.frbatlanta.org/filelegacydocs/wp0305b.pdf

Palmer, S. et al., Solar and geomagnetic activity, extremely low frequency magnetic and electric fields and human health at the Earth’s surface, Surveys in Geophysics, 2006
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/k ... 5/00009010


Sun storms have a psychological impact on us?

Schumann resonance? The human physical body as an antenna?

Is astrology becoming a serious topic of science in the 21st century?

What is your view?
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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby Osmosis » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:41 pm

See my post over at Planetary Science, on Solar Flares. Concerns flares and Earth field changes.

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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby Sparky » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:18 am

Everyone is pointing fingers -- at blundering politicians, hooded thugs, disaffected youths, bumbling police and greedy bankers -- but could the cause for all the madness really be the star at the center of our solar system?


Sounds like the "Twinkie Defense"... :roll:

Not all politicians blunder, except when they give in to social thugs, elected to office by more reactionary of the electorate.

Hooded street thugs are thugs/terrorists regardless of the sun's activity. Only a very small percentage of people are thugs, most are just self-absorbed punks.

Disaffected youths are irresponsible because they have been taught or allowed to be.

Bumbling police are like any other group/organization, the more aggressive and neurotic/psychotic will rise above their level of competence.

Some of the above apply to greedy bankers and CEO's, who have the power and money to hide their thuggery.

Even fall down drunks can make good choices if they have been taught to. Even a psychotic can learn to modify their behavior.
:roll:

But, we all need excuses for our behavior, so blaming it on the sun, when we were born, or the devil are just as good as any...
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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby JaJa » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:30 am

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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby MrAmsterdam » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:38 am

I hear your point Sparky. Corruption of authorities should not be blamed on sun activity.

At the other side of the argument is this. A sunstorm creates a magnetic storm on earth. My question would be; is there a correlation between a magnetic storm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation ?
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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am

MrAmsterdam wrote:I hear your point Sparky. Corruption of authorities should not be blamed on sun activity.

At the other side of the argument is this. A sunstorm creates a magnetic storm on earth. My question would be; is there a correlation between a magnetic storm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation ?



I am very sorry, but i missed seeing your post till last night....

My best answer, I don't know.

The studies that you linked to would suggest a connection.

Do some people react to magnetic flux more than others?
Most probably. Are some people psychotic? Yep.
Do most people make an effort to control anti-social behavior.? Yes. Of that portion of people that participate in riots, are there a small number that drive the dynamic, while most of the others mindlessly follow along? Seems so. Could TMS be of benefit for those who just follow along? Maybe. Could theraputical electrical stimulation of the most anti-social benefit society?
Yes, as applied in the "chair".
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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby tolenio » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:15 am

Hello,

For the past three Gleissberg cycles there has been an international financial collapse at a similar cycle point;

gleissberg economic 2.GIF


So for the last 300 years the same type of event occurs at the same cycle point.

If it repeats again we can expect a worldwide financial collapse in during solar cycle 26. Larger than what we see today.

It is all cyclic.

[Magnetic storms as a stress factor].
[Article in Russian]
Rapoport SI, Boldypakova TD, Malinovskaia NK, Oraevskiĭ VN, Meshcheriakova SA, Breus TK, Sosnovskiĭ AM.
SourceSechenov Medical Academy, Moscow, Russia.

Abstract
The functional characteristics variations during the magnetic storms were observed in both the healthy humans and in patients with cardio-vascular diseases as well as in cosmonauts at SOYUZ spacecraft and MIR station. These characteristics revealed a nonspecific adaptive stress reaction, which should be accompanied by the variations in the stress-hormone production rate. The neurohumoral regulation of the organism functions during the geomagnetic storms in a group of patients with cardio-vascular pathology and in a control group of healthy individuals were studied. The magnetic storm effect characterised of both the sick and healthy examines was the violated ratio of glucocorticoids and mineralocorticoids, namely increase of cortisone secretion (adrenal cortex hormone), as well as some tendency to the activation of sympathoadrenal system. Our investigations revealed also a suppressed production of melatonin (the pineal gland hormone) during the geomagnetic storm. These results are not in contradictions with the functional characteristics violation by the magnetic storms and correspond to the existence of adaptive stress reaction of the human organism to the geomagnetic field disturbances.


When you overlay stock market volatility with solar activity this jumps out...

volatility.GIF


I am surprised it took this long to make the correlation.

The sun influences behavior at a culutural level cyclicaly.

When did the Baby Boomers emerge? Approaching the peak of the Gleissberg cycle...

Gleissberg small.JPG


Think of the Gleissberg cycle as a 100 year season, and the Boomers emerged in late spring of the cycle. Lots of energy, animals have extra energy to be liberal with giving birth.

When did the Hippies spontaneously emerge in the cycle with their age of free love liberal views?

When did the Tea Party spotaneously emerge with their more conservative views?

It would appear Gleissberg excess solar activity inspires liberalism, while solar nadir inspires conservatism. It is the same cycle found in nature in the annual cycle. In the winter animals conserve, and in summer animals can be more liberal with energy expenditure.

Gleissberg is simply a larger amplitude of the annual cycle and biology follows the same rules simply to a larger amplitude that really sticks out. Simultaneously solar activity flavors how humans react to events.

All biology picks up on the solar pulse width modulation of energy...

PWM.jpg


We are currently appoaching nadir in this cycle and it will be followed by a chaotic solar ramp up in solar cycle 26 and the cycle repeats.

Here we are approaching nadir in the Gleissberg solar cycle...

Image

PWM current.GIF


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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:58 am

tolenio, you always post very interesting stuff...

I must question, how was sunspot activity in 1720, and 1837 recorded? Is it reliable?

How many people were observing the sun, and at what detail?

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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby tolenio » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:23 am

It was recorded with telescopes by that time.

History of Sunspot Observations
You may not know that humans have observed sunspots for a very long time. These records have been around so long in fact, that we can link sunspot number with solar activity. Large sunspots can sometimes be seen with just your eye, especially when the Sun is viewed through fog near the horizon at sunrise or sunset. (WARNING: Never look directly at the Sun! Even a brief glance can damage your eyes!)

The first written record of sunspots was made by Chinese astronomers around 800 B.C. Court astrologers in ancient China and Korea, who believed sunspots foretold important events, kept records off and on of sunspots for hundred of years. An English monk named John of Worcester made the first drawing of sunspots in December 1128.

Soon after the invention of the telescope, several astronomers used the telescope to make observations of sunspots. This was around 1600. Astronomers of that time weren't quite sure what to make of these spots on the Sun. Some thought they were shadows of undiscovered planets crossing the Sun, while others believed they were dark clouds in the Sun's atmosphere. The movement of sunspots across the face of the Sun allowed astronomers in the early 1600's to make the first estimates of the Sun's rotation period (about 27 days).


The Carrington Event of 1859 was also observed...

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Re: Riots, wild markets: Did space storms drive us mad?

Unread postby tolenio » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:23 am

Hello,

I have not read the book but there is this title out there...

The Unified Cycle Theory

Honolulu, HI, March 11, 2009 --(PR.com)-- Mathematician & Statistician Stephen J. Puetz, a leading expert on physical cycles and their effect on mankind, presents a dynamic fresh theory in his newly released book, The Unified Cycle Theory, published by Outskirts Press. Puetz classifies major cycles documented by scientists in academic areas such as astrophysics, geology, climatology, and biology, with many of these cycles containing frequencies spanning from less than a month to hundreds, thousands, and even millions of years. Puetz effectively demonstrates how many of these shorter-term cycles closely parallel human behavioral patterns and that human behavior cycles relate to far-reaching aspects of history, economics, sociology, and psychology. Many of these are high impact events and involve the rise-and-fall of civilizations, political choices, fluctuating war activity, economic boom-bust cycles, commodity market swings, and even stock market trends.


The book is on my Christmas list. (smile)

It all ties back to various solar cycles and the the harmonics they represent in climate and biology which drives adaptation cycles for biology. Adaptation drives behavior.

As we approach the start of the 100 year solar Gleissberg cycle in solar cycle 26 look for solar harmonics of what occured in solar cycles 15 through 25 for It will flavor our future behavioral response to events in similar ways;

WWI
Spanish Flu
Roaring Twenties
Great Depression
Dust Bowl
WWII
Baby Boomers
Hippies
Sexual Revolution
"Me" generation
Tea Party

It is an amplitude wave ranging from fear to confidence and liberalism to conservatism.

PWM 4 tb.JPG


We are approaching minima in point "B".

It will not be a duplicate it will simply be "seasoned" the same way.

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