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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:04 pm

Heftruck wrote:You also might want to include Nan Madol, which is a partially submerged city of 11 square miles right off the coast of the Micronesian island of Pohnpei.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_Madol
http://www.zuko.com/Mysterious_Planet/Lost_Cities.htm


It was mentioned on one of the peripheral links of the first post:

( Deep Sea Detectives: Another Atlantis? DVD)
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=74203

Armed with the latest underwater technology, driven by boundless curiosity and steeled with courage, the DEEP SEA DETECTIVES travel the globe to visit long-lost shipwrecks and other enticing treasures of the deep. With their incredible expertise and experience, John Chatterton and the other Detectives bring tales to the surface that have been submerged for generations.

Settled 2,500 years ago, Nan Madol is a living memorial to the prehistoric Micronesians--and an abiding mystery. 100-foot high basalt structures rise from the deep to form artificial islands. Far below the surface, underwater tunnels filled with untold riches and ancient artifacts are rumored to connect this complex. But how did the Micronesians build this imposing fortress? Where did they quarry raw materials? Do the tunnels exist? And can we find them? Join veteran divers John Chatterton and Richie Kohler as they investigate this underwater mystery.


But, yes, I suppose that a few Nan Madol resources might not be a bad idea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_Madol
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf045/sf045p01.htm
http://www.janesoceania.com/micronesia_ ... /index.htm

(Wow, this brings back memories; yes, that's right, I made this site for a professor back in my college days. Who knew I'd be revisiting it? Ha! And, yes, I'd probably update / design them differently today... *wink* Ohh, right, and see the "Pohnpei" section for a blurb on Nan Madol.)
http://www.uoregon.edu/~wsayres/index.html

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:27 pm

dahlenaz wrote:MGmirkin may have written or recovered the following.
"Anyway, there also does seem to be considerable evidence that sea levels were considerably lower in the past. Rising sea levels appear to have "hidden" quite a bit of our past from us by submerging ancient cities and even a few caves that have been used by ancient cultures."

There may be more than rising water involved in the sinking of cities.
If they are on continental blocks against the atlantic or near another rift region, they may have, according to the Hydroplate theory, been taken to new depths as the continental block itself sunk into the mantel as the compressed and loaded crustal block sought equalibrium over that portion of the mantel, this followed the rifting ocean floor's bulge upward- in the absence of the same covering crust- further accelerating the crust laterally, setting it up for sudden stopage as friction increased .
In the pacific region, the crust would have been pulled downward as the earth's interior shifted toward the atlantic in response to the subfloor bulge and fractured. The surrounding regions would have been affected by this subsidence which would be a vertical subsidence not subduction.
Gravity measurments of the trenches indicates the absence of mass which is contradictory to what should be expected if the plates are being subducted.

A serious and fair look at the hydroplate theory should be included in any consideration of what happened with the earth. d..z


Hmm, interesting, though with the wide dispersion of "sunken" things (caves and otherwise), it seems (at least to me) more likely that water levels rose (melting ice caps, etc.), as opposed to multiple disparate regions of the sea floor all sinking. IE, we've got sunken stuff off Japan, off Cuba, west of Cuba (Cozumel, on an island right by the SE tip of Mexico), part of Phangoria (on the Black Sea), etc.

Is it more likely that all of these disparate regions sank, or that the sea level rose and covered them? Which isn't to say it's not possible they sank, as opposed to be covered without sinkage... I just tend to think that a rise in sea level would more easily explain widespread disparate submergences (granted, easier =/= more correct). If everything were more clustered together, it might be an easier claim to make (my opinion only). It also wouldn't require any "new geology" / "new physics," just a recession and/or melting of ice caps, glaciers, etc. from the last ice age. IE, all that water that was locked up in ice, melted and ran down hill... Sea level rises.

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List of more Sunken Cities.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:19 pm

(Wikipedia category: Sunken Sities)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sunken_cities

Some of the above are only "legend" / "myth" at this point, whereas other are well-documented or still partially existent. So, apparently, the notion of rising sea levels subsuming cities or eroding them away is not without merit. Though a few instances may have been actual "sinkage," so I suppose I should keep an open mind. Port Royal sounds like a "known" candidate for "sinkage" as opposed to rising sea levels. Anyway, have listed a number of items from WP and from other reliable news sources. Hope this helps!


Naturally sunken cities / sites (as far as we know):

(Alexandria)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sunken/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcript ... sures.html
http://www.archaeology.org/9903/abstrac ... ndria.html
http://www.archaeology.org/9903/abstracts/map.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/07/2 ... rchaeology

(Atil)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atil

(Atlit Yam)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlit_Yam
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... water.html

(Boura)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boura

(Caesarea Maritima, Israel)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarea_Maritima
http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/ ... t/27/9/811
http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_I ... ubj_id=141
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/19 ... 99cm-1.asp

(Dunwich)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunwich
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7187239.stm

(Dwarka, India; unfortunately, appears to be being reburied due to neglect)
http://indiapost.com/article/india/150/

(Helike)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helike

(Herakleion, Canopus, Menouthis & Yarmuta; Sunken cities of the Nile)
http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg17223134.700
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17223134.700
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 082602.htm
http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/00/agunur110.html
http://www.underwaterdiscovery.org/Site ... fault.aspx
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 66,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/june ... cities.htm
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/589/tr1.htm
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/588/fr3.htm

(Llys Helig)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llys_Helig

(Ruins at {Mafia Island?})
http://gorp.away.com/gorp/location/afri ... _mafia.htm
http://gorp.away.com/gorp/location/afri ... mafia2.htm

({Myndos/Myndus?}; "Sunken City" of Lake Köyceğiz, Turkey)
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/226716.asp

(Olous)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olous

(Phanagoria)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanagoria

(Phasis)
http://www.archaeology.org/9911/newsbriefs/city.html

(Port Royal; Appears to have actually "sank" during an earthquake? Wonder what the actual process was... Did the area subside straight down, or more mobile sediments slide down/across bedrock, etc?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Royal
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news ... 961027b167

(Ravenser Odd)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenser_Odd

(Ravenspurn)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenspurn

(Rhakotis)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhakotis

(Rungholt)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rungholt

(Saeftinghe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeftinghe

(Solent site near Hurst Castle in Hampshire)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2001942.stm

(Turkey's underwater heritage)
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=82558

({Wanaku?}, in Lake Titicaca, Peru)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/892616.stm
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=626
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Artic ... 50,00.html
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/climate-01l.html (see image caption)

(Yonaguni, Japan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -city.html

(Unknown city in the Gulf of Cambay off India [may be 9000 years old, and rewrite a chunk of human history?])
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1345150.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1768109.stm
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1 ... -city.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Artic ... 93,00.html
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1176

(Unknown structures/city off Cuba)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ities.html
http://www.medioambiente.cu/museo/exmari.htm
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1062

(Rumored "Mayan Atlantis" between Yucatan & Cuba. Not sure if this is the same as the structures off Cuba or not. Preliminary, unverified.)
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1 ... 324900B252

(Unknown temple[s] off India's coast, near the Shore Temple)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Artic ... 12,00.html
http://www.underwatertimes.com/news.php ... 4865110927
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms. ... d=15199261
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/04/11/wtemp11.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/04/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1923794.stm
http://www.india-atlantis.org/

(Underwater Temple discovered off Malta, ignored by the Museums Department of Malta)
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1119

(A new / "prehistoric Pompeii" discovered)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... pomp28.xml
http://www.archaeology.org/0203/newsbri ... zeage.html
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1044

(Man-made wall found submerged off the Pescadores Islands [west of Taiwan])
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/archive/det ... 1&id=32604
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/ar ... /01/185543
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146410806
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/796256/posts


Artificially sunken cities / sites:

(Allianoi; submerged behind Yortanli Dam)
http://medarch.blogspot.com/2007/04/anc ... tored.html

(Brown's Station, New York; a modern, artificially sunken city behind the Ashokan Reservoir)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_ ... C_New_York

(Capel Celyn; another modern sunken city behind the Llyn Celyn reservoir in north Wales)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capel_Celyn

(Kalyazin, Russia; Portions of the town are submerged by the Uglich Reservoir)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalyazin

(Korcheva, Russia; all or partly sunken behind Ivankovo Reservoir)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korcheva

(Mologa, Russia; sunken behind Rybinsk Reservoir)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mologa

(Morganton, Tennessee; sunken behind Tellico Dam?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganton%2C_Tennessee


General underwater archeology news (don't know how reliable or not):
http://www.morien-institute.org/uwnewsarchive.html
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish ... 4464.shtml

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby nick c » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:02 am

mgmirkin wrote:
(Port Royal; Appears to have actually "sank" during an earthquake? Wonder what the actual process was... Did the area subside straight down, or more mobile sediments slide down/across bedrock, etc?)

Apparently, the later.
Port Royal sank in an earthquake in 1692, due to the process of liquefaction-
http://www.ce.washington.edu/~liquefact ... what1.html


The sand beneath city flowed out from under the city causing it to sink. Several tidal waves, after the quake, caused further removal of the ground on which the city was built, lowering it even more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Royal
On June 7, 1692, a devastating earthquake hit the city causing the sand on which it was built to liquefy and flow out into Kingston Harbour. The water table was generally only two feet down before the impact. The effects of three tidal waves caused by the earthquake further eroded the sand, and soon the main part of the city lay permanently underwater, though intact enough that archaeologists have managed to uncover some well-preserved sites. The earthquake and tsunami killed between 1,000 and 3,000 people combined, over half the city's population.


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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:11 am

nick c wrote:mgmirkin wrote:
(Port Royal; Appears to have actually "sank" during an earthquake? Wonder what the actual process was... Did the area subside straight down, or more mobile sediments slide down/across bedrock, etc?)

Apparently, the later.
Port Royal sank in an earthquake in 1692, due to the process of liquefaction-
http://www.ce.washington.edu/~liquefact ... what1.html


The sand beneath city flowed out from under the city causing it to sink. Several tidal waves, after the quake, caused further removal of the ground on which the city was built, lowering it even more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Royal
On June 7, 1692, a devastating earthquake hit the city causing the sand on which it was built to liquefy and flow out into Kingston Harbour. The water table was generally only two feet down before the impact. The effects of three tidal waves caused by the earthquake further eroded the sand, and soon the main part of the city lay permanently underwater, though intact enough that archaeologists have managed to uncover some well-preserved sites. The earthquake and tsunami killed between 1,000 and 3,000 people combined, over half the city's population.


Nick


Thanks, Nick C! Exactly what I was wondering... I think I forgot to use the term liquefaction, but I was wondering if it played a role... Guess so!

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:22 pm

(Ten-Story Tsunami Thrashed Mediterranean 8,000 Years Ago)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,233360,00.html

May have had something to do with a few submerged or destroyed sites / cities. Interesting...

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:15 am

(TURKEY: DISCOVERY OF 12,000-YEAR-OLD TEMPLE COMPLEX COULD ALTER THEORY OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT)
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/i ... 708a.shtml

While it's not submerged, except under dirt, it may help to redefine our history, being one of the oldest sites found? Circa 12,000 years old.

"This place is a supernova", says Schmidt, standing under a lone tree on a windswept hilltop 35 miles north of Turkey’s border with Syria. "Within a minute of first seeing it I knew I had two choices: go away and tell nobody, or spend the rest of my life working here."

[...]


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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:36 am

In a slightly older article, the next earliest temple was thought to be a 9000-year-old temple

(German paper reports world’s oldest temple is in Şanlıurfa)
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=33604

[...] previously a 9,000-year-old temple in Jordan was considered to be the world's oldest, the article said. Some parts of ancient history should be rewritten after this discovery?


World culture apparently stretches back much further than we had thought?

Keeping in mind the recent discovery in the Gulf of Cambay off India:

(Indian seabed hides ancient remains)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1345150.stm

Marine experts have discovered a clump of archaeological structures deep beneath the sea off India's western coast.

Although the discovery has not yet been accurately dated, the structures are said to resemble archeological sites belonging to the Harappan civilisation, dating back more than 4,000 years.

[...]



(Lost city 'could rewrite history')
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1768109.stm

The remains of what has been described as a huge lost city may force historians and archaeologists to radically reconsider their view of ancient human history.

Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old.

The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years.

[...]

Debris recovered from the site - including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads, sculpture and human bones and teeth has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old.

[...]

The city is believed to be even older than the ancient Harappan civilisation, which dates back around 4,000 years.

Marine archaeologists have used a technique known as sub-bottom profiling to show that the buildings remains stand on enormous foundations.

[...]

"Cities on this scale are not known in the archaeological record until roughly 4,500 years ago when the first big cities begin to appear in Mesopotamia.

"Nothing else on the scale of the underwater cities of Cambay is known. The first cities of the historical period are as far away from these cities as we are today from the pyramids of Egypt," he said.

[...]

"There's a huge chronological problem in this discovery. It means that the whole model of the origins of civilisation with which archaeologists have been working will have to be remade from scratch," [Graham Hancock, {an investigator on the project?}] said.

However, archaeologist Justin Morris from the British Museum said more work would need to be undertaken before the site could be categorically said to belong to a 9,000 year old civilisation.

"Culturally speaking, in that part of the world there were no civilisations prior to about 2,500 BC. What's happening before then mainly consisted of small, village settlements," [Morris] told BBC News Online.

Dr Morris added that artefacts from the site would need to be very carefully analysed, and pointed out that the C14 carbon dating process is not without its error margins.

It is believed that the area was submerged as ice caps melted at the end of the last ice age 9-10,000 years ago

[block parenthetical items were my additions, for clarity.]

As I just ran across another article when searching on 12000 year old temples, I thought I'd share this snippet from Archaeology {Magazine?} wherein they share that it looks like Nazareth was a major cultural center 8000 years before the time of Christ?

(Pre-Christian Rituals at Nazareth)
http://www.archaeology.org/0311/newsbri ... areth.html

Archaeological investigations near Nazareth--Jesus' boyhood home--have revealed that the area was a major cult center 8,000 years before the time of Christ.

Excavations at Kibbutz Kfar HaHoresh, less than two miles from the town center, have so far unearthed strangely decorated human skulls and evidence for unusual, complex burials. "This is the first example in the Levant of a purely religious complex from this remote period," says excavation director Nigel Goring-Morris of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. "This is a totally new type of site." The cult center seems to have serviced the religious needs of villagers a few miles away.

So far the remains of 65 people have been unearthed--but hundreds more are expected to be found as excavations continue. Many of the remains were interred as part of complex rituals. One partly disarticulated, headless man had been laid to rest on top of a pile of 250 aurochs (wild ox) bones, while at least four children were buried with fox mandibles. Several other individuals were interred with what may have been heirloom flint tools. Archaeologists at HaHoresh have also discovered a remarkable prehistoric "work of art": 50 human bones seemingly arranged in the shape of an animal, possibly an aurochs or a wild boar. This image was constructed, it seems, to mark the burial place of around a dozen people.

Three specially enhanced human skulls have also been discovered. Each of them had been deliberately defleshed after death and overlaid with lime plaster modeled to form facial features. Two of the skulls had then been painted red--one with red ocher, the other with a red pigment that must have come from quarries far to the north in what is now central Turkey. Red pigment, presumably signifying the blood of life, is known to have been painted onto corpses or skeletons in many ancient societies, probably as a form of sympathetic magic designed to help the deceased achieve life after death.

The discovery of several lime kilns at the site suggests that the plaster used for the skulls and for sealing many of the graves was manufactured on-site. Ten thousand years ago these burials must have been an extraordinary sight, for the white plaster grave surfaces--some covering up to 850 square feet--had been deliberately burnished by mourners or devotees to such an extent that the graves probably shimmered in the sun. Some burials were overlaid with up to three tons of plaster.

Even at this early time, 400 generations ago, society may well have been quite rigidly stratified. While at least a quarter of the population of the area at the time were thrown into village rubbish pits left in abandoned houses after death, others appear to have been taken to Nazareth, where their remains were treated with due deference.


Our human legacy is beginning to look nothing like that in the text books! And, frankly, it kind of freaks me out a little. ;) Not necessarily in a bad way, though!

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 am

Again, not necessarily on-topic for submerged or underground site / cities, but I found this series of articles on the debate over pre-Clovis peoples in the Americas to be rather interesting. Especially where it dealt with dogma, and institutionalization of though, with possible suppression of debate...

(The Importance of Monte Verde)
http://www.archaeology.org/online/featu ... rose1.html

(Monte Verde Fallout)
http://www.archaeology.org/online/featu ... rose2.html

(Unresolved Ambiguity at Monte Verde)
http://www.archaeology.org/online/featu ... iedel.html

Also, it seems to give indications of human culture / civilization in the Americas some 12,000 years ago? Though no temple building in this particular instance. Just "humans appear to have been here."

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:51 am

Similarly:

(Starter Home)
http://www.archaeology.org/0311/newsbriefs/folsom.html

Appears to be some evidence for a Folsom Paleoindian settlement or "home" circa 12000 years ago atop a Colorado mesa.

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Re: Recovered: Tiahuanacu (was Researcher claims vast N/W ....

Unread postby smartart » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:35 am

Thanks - I had not came across those pics. Could be Mars!
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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby MGmirkin » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:13 pm

A recent pertinent story was offered by a colleague online:

(Prehistoric land under the sea)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/nort ... 532771.stm

It seems catastrophism isn't quite as dead as one might think...

Deep below the sea, off the north coast of Northern Ireland, a dramatic geological mystery has been discovered.

Huge cliffs, vast basins and plateaus, a lake and even rivers have been found. But so far no-one is certain what caused them to end up like this deep under the sea.

[...]

One of the most striking details is a large lake or crater on what was once the top of huge cliffs towering above the plateau below.

The streams and rivers that fed it are still clearly defined.

And that raises one of the mysteries. Why did coastal erosion not obliterate all that detail as the sea slow rose over the land?

Could it mean that some cataclysmic event took place that allowed the sea to overwhelm the land before erosion could begin?


So, there seems to be additional evidence for come catastrophic event(s) which causes sea levels to rise over a very short period, such that erosion effects were minor or non-existent, whereas a slow rise in sea levels would tend toward evidence of lots of erosion over time.

So, what happened? An open question...

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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby tholden » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:45 pm

In the same or a very similar category to that of sunken cities is whatever is involved with what is termed the "magnetic anomaly" at Lake Vostok in Antarctica. The thing which normally pegs the needle of a magnetometer is a (modern) city.
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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby moses » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:25 pm

So, what happened? An open question...
~Michael Gmirkin

Mars had an almost head-on prang with Earth. North America
and South America were formed by the track that Mars took as
it passed Earth. Great electrical interactions grabbed hold of
the land that is now these two continents. This lifted this land
and also retarded this land from spinning around the rest of the
Earth. The result was that mountain ranges were formed in the
west, and in the east the lands that were there sank. Thus the
evidence of civilization deep under sea level in the Atlantic and
so also in Northern Island.
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Re: Submerged ancient caves, pyramids, sites, cities, etc.

Unread postby davesmith_au » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:58 pm

tholden wrote:The thing which normally pegs the needle of a magnetometer is a (modern) city.


Dunno about this, but my guess here would be that a (modern) city has a (modern) eletricity distribution grid, lots of (modern) radio waves, (modern) TV signals, (modern) microwaves, etc. etc., things difficult to sustain under all that icey water... so I would tend to think something other than a sunken city may be the cause of the anomoly you mention.

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