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Re: The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:12 pm
by Sun Friend
Wow, what a masterpiece! Thank you Brigit. I'm just learning about the Electric Universe and this gives me so much to contemplate.
The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:43 am
by Brigit
Sun Friend says » "Wow, what a masterpiece! Thank you Brigit. I'm just learning about the Electric Universe and this gives me so much to contemplate."
Hey Sun Friend, thanks! I am very glad you had a look. In the Electric Universe model, there is some variation between the Comparative Mythologists regarding how the present Solar System came to be the way it is. And of course the Nebular Hypothesis is held in a powerfully subconscious/habitual manner by most people, even on this Forum. I am following Wal Thornhill's model, which is a Capture Model of the Solar System.
I hinted early on about the Hale-Bopp Comet's orbit, and its long-period arrival from deep beneath the Sun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKCOqcL-nUw
Comet Hale–Bopp and its Appearance in 1997
CH: Celestial Mechanics
This is the template I am using for Brown Dwarf L-type Star Saturn's path of capture by the Sun.
There are three reasons I have chosen this path for Saturn's capture. I want to share those next.
The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:10 pm
by Brigit
"The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun" sets out to trace a physical trail of evidence from the Sun's furthest influence at the heliospheric boundary all the way to Saturn's present orbit around the Sun.
For a Brown Dwarf to have been captured by a main sequence star is not an unusual occurrence in the Plasma Universe and the Electric Universe. All stellar and planetary celestial objects, after their formation in powerful z-pinches along plasma filaments in space, are free to join up to form the impressive and beautiful variety of star systems we see today.
This is why more than half of the stars we see are in binary and even multiple systems. It also means that most of the exoplanetary systems we are able to observe are in unlikely paths around their stars.
The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:10 pm
by Brigit
We will go on to the idea of systems of multiples
freely joining up after they form electrically along plasma filaments. After all, this is why it is not unusual, nor is it outrageous, for a previous Brown Dwarf star to have been captured by our own Sun.
But first I want to just stop and linger over a couple of beautiful little star systems of binaries -- actually even pairs
of pairs of stars -- that are really entrancing to look at.
First, here is an entry to the Encyclopedia Americana. In 1959, Charles B Oliver wrote,
- "Capella, the fifth brightest star in the sky and a binary. In the constellation Auriga, it has a solar-type spectrum and its distance is 46 light years. Its orbit has been determined by combining spectroscopic and interferometer observations. The period is 0.285 years, and the components have masses 4.2 and 3.3 that of the Sun, their combined light being 150 times greater. They are 79,000,000 miles distant from one another. The larger has a diameter of 12 times that of the Sun, and a density of 0.0024 that of water. Hence it is classed as a giant, while the Sun belongs to the main sequence."
(Venus' avg distance from the Sun = 67,237,910 for comparison.)
Later, it was discovered that Capella is a quadruple star system:
- "Although it appears to be a single star to the naked eye, Capella is actually a quadruple star system, organized in two binary pairs..."
Capella H and L, two Red Dwarfs, are 10,000 AU from the other pair, Capella Aa and Ab, which are bright yellow giants.
And here is
Castor, the sextuplet set of stars:
"Telescopic observations of Castor began to reveal a more complicated story of the single star. Today, NASA says the system is made up of six stars:"
- A pair of main-sequence A stars orbit every 467 years
An invisible Dwarf that orbits Castor A
Another Dwarf that orbits Castor B
A pair of stars just south of the Castor AB complex, called YYGEM, which are 2 Dwarfs with a 19 hour orbit
There are more examples of these delicate dances between binaries, and if I was a better human being I would have more of them here for you so that you could all enjoy them and have the most exhilarating day! But I think that many of these systems can be looked at from an Electric Universe perspective, that being that they may be in a
transitional state. Or they may have recently been joined up as the systems we see today.
Re: The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 5:27 pm
by Brigit
To summarize the most confronting aspect of the Plasma and Electric Universe model, stars and planets are not formed in cold molecular clouds which gravitationally condense down to stars, and neither are the planets formed from a leftover disc of gas and dust surrounding that star.
The stars and some planets are formed by powerful electric discharges, called z-pinches, along plasma filaments. The plasma that makes up 99.9% of the visible Universe tends to form twisted filaments of consistent widths, and the stars are formed along those filaments (something like beads of lightning after the lightning has quenched).
Here is a summary of star formation by Wal Thornhill in a Bath, UK presentation in 2018:
from 36:50 to 40:34
dur. 4 min.
The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 6:42 pm
by Brigit
I'll include the transcript, as a very short read on the formation of stars and planets along current carrying plasma filaments:
"Hannes Alfven actually
predicted this as how stars would form.
They form along current filaments in molecular clouds. It's like lightning
within a cloud, and they form along the lightning in the cloud like pearls on a cosmic string.
This was a surprise - because gravity doesn't tend to pull things together in a string. It pulls
them together in clumps. Once again gravity can be ignored.
Ionized elements convect inwards from the molecular cloud along the filament,
towards the axis of the filament, and it's a long-range electromagnetic ion
pump. It pulls in the charged atoms, the nuclei of atoms in, towards the
central axis. And depending on where they pick up an electron and become
neutral, that's where they stop. So it sorts the elements according to their ionization potential. The result is you get a cool core of heavy elements to form the center of the object and on the
outside you get the hydrogen and helium. They are the ones that drop out drop off the pump-action first.
Now this is
important because stars are don't have centers of hydrogen so there's no thermonuclear activity. All stars
have a cool planetary body as their core. There is no activity going on inside a
star. The spin is imparted to the stars--and not only stars are formed, but bodies of
all different sizes. So planets are formed at the same time in the same fashion. None of this nonsense about 'a cloud of rubbish around a star are leftovers forming planets.' I mean how do you do that? They've never been able to show how that works. It'll remain a disk just like the rings of Saturn.
This is a paper that was published which showed that the scientists have discovered how this happens. Here you have this filament,
and remember the plasma ball we saw before with the filaments snaking around. Well this filament snakes around, it curves this way one minute and over here it's straight, and then it begins curving
the other way. This is the star forming, the core protostar here, still moving
with the filament. Here it's picked up a certain amount of mass and the filament has started to
change direction; it's coming back again, and in that case the star is left behind but it's got the original impetus of the filament. Tony Peratt explained it as like scattering like buckshot. This is
what they observe.
So you have stars and planets all being shot out fairly close
together, so that when this is gone, as it moves away, the stars and planets
are left to form gravitational planetary systems.
As Hannes Alfven said, 'Gravitational systems are the ashes of
former electrical systems,' so this is why we can treat the solar system today
purely as a gravitational system. They can forget about electromagnetism when things are running like clockwork, it's a different thing. So there's evidence for planet birth; it's revealed in the great abundance
of faint brown dwarfs and isolated planetary mass objects in the Great Nebula of Orion, and this is the deepest view ever of this region.
It reveals more very faint planetary mass objects than expected because they don't
expect planets to form at the same time as the stars do."
Wal Thornhill, 2018 Bath, UK
The Debris Path of Saturn's Capture by the Sun
Posted: Tue May 19, 2026 4:56 am
by Brigit
correction: 'Tony Peratt explained it as like "scattering like buckshot." This is
what they observe.
So you have stars and planets all being shot out fairly close
together, so that when this is gone, as it moves away, the stars and planets
are left to form gravitational planetary systems.'
Thanks.