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LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE BEFORE YOUNGER DRYAS
Mainstream dates Younger Dryas c. 12,900 BP, I think, so I asked AI which archeological sites predate that. In a recent post above I found that some Sumer sites predate a major flood, which I figured may have been a Younger Dryas meltwater flood, but the mainstream would disagree with that. My timeline puts the Great Flood at 5,200 BP and Younger Dryas at 4,200 BP and if the Septuagint is right that people didn't leave the Middle East till 700 years later, then all of the following sites would have had to appear within 300 years before the YD floods, which might be impractical. Anyway, I figure the pre-Younger Dryas sites are where there should be evidence of the Saturn Configuration if it broke up during the YD. Peratt's rock art plasma images should be at some of those sites. Below, it looks like there are only a few such sites and they're fairly close to the equator, instead of toward the North Pole, so the evidence here doesn't seem to be lining up well so far. But this is just a preliminary look. I'll have to read over this more closely to see if some better clues might pop out.
Major Sites Predating the Younger Dryas
European Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
45,000–20,000 -- Kostenki (Complex) -- Don River, Russia (European Russia) -- Early Upper Paleolithic → Gravettian -- Long stratigraphy, bone tools, ornaments, mammoth-bone structures
44,000–14,000 -- Molodova I -- Dniester River, Ukraine -- Mousterian → Upper Paleolithic -- Mammoth-bone structures, flake tools, hearths
36,000–30,000 -- Chauvet Cave -- Ardèche, France -- Aurignacian -- Charcoal cave paintings, handprints, torches, bone tools
30,000–25,000 -- Pavlovian Sites (cluster) -- Czech Republic -- Gravettian -- Ornaments, figurines, structured camps
30,000–25,000 -- Dolní Věstonice / Pavlov -- Moravia, Czech Republic -- Gravettian -- Venus figurines, early ceramics, mammoth-bone dwellings
26,000–11,000 -- Parpalló Cave -- Valencia, Spain -- Solutrean → Magdalenian -- Engraved stone plaques, bone tools, blade technology
24,000–12,000 -- El Mirón Cave -- Cantabria, Spain -- Magdalenian -- Burial (“Red Lady”), ochre, bone points, antler harpoons
22,000–17,000 -- Solutré -- Saône-et-Loire, France -- Solutrean -- Bifacial laurel-leaf points, horse-hunting kill site
22,000–14,000 -- Altamira -- Cantabria, Spain -- Solutrean → Magdalenian -- Bison paintings, engraved antler, Solutrean points
17,000–12,000 -- Mas-d’Azil -- Ariège, France -- Magdalenian → Azilian -- Harpoons, painted pebbles, bone points
17000 -- Lascaux -- Dordogne, France -- Magdalenian -- Polychrome cave art, engraved bone tools, spear points
15,000–8,000 -- Doggerland (various sites) -- North Sea (submerged) -- Late Upper Paleolithic → Mesolithic -- Stone tools, faunal remains, sedimentary DNA of
15,000–14,000 -- Gönnersdorf -- Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany -- Magdalenian -- Engraved slate “female” figures, hearths, blade tools
15,000–13,000 -- Yudinovo -- Bryansk region, Russia -- Epigravettian -- Mammoth-bone dwellings, bone needles, hunting tools
15,000–12,500 -- Gough’s Cave -- Somerset, UK -- Magdalenian -- Engraved bones, cut-marked human remains, flint blades
15000 -- Mezhyrich -- Ukraine -- Epigravettian -- Mammoth-bone houses, ivory tools, hearths
14,000–13,000 -- Pincevent -- Seine-et-Marne, France -- Magdalenian -- Reindeer-hunting camps, flint blades, structured hearths
Asian Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
300,000–30,000 -- Denisova Cave -- Altai Mountains, Siberia (Russia) -- Middle → Upper Paleolithic -- Denisovan DNA, bone needles, ornaments, stone blades
60,000–10,000 -- Shanidar Cave -- Iraq -- Mousterian → Epipaleolithic -- Neanderthal burials, tools, hearths
48,000–4,000 -- Fa-Hien Lena -- Sri Lanka -- Upper Paleolithic -- Microliths, bone tools, bow-and-arrow evidence
46,000–14,000 -- Tam Pa Ling -- Laos -- Upper Paleolithic -- Early modern human remains, flake tools
45,000–11,000 -- Niah Cave -- Sarawak, Borneo (Malaysia) -- Upper Paleolithic -- Human remains, shell tools, ochre
45000 -- Ust’-Ishim -- Western Siberia (Russia) -- Early Upper Paleolithic -- Human remains (Ust’-Ishim man), blade tools
45000 -- Niah Cave (Deep Skull) -- Borneo -- Upper Paleolithic -- Human remains, shell tools
40,000–12,000 -- Umm el Tlel -- Syria -- Upper Paleolithic -- Blade tools, hearths, ornaments
40,000–10,000 -- Shuidonggou -- Ningxia, China -- Early Upper Paleolithic -- Blade technology, ostrich eggshell beads
36,000–12,000 -- Batadomba-lena -- Sri Lanka -- Upper Paleolithic -- Microliths, beads, bone points
35,000–12,000 -- Jwalapuram -- Andhra Pradesh, India -- Upper Paleolithic -- Blade tools, microliths, ochre
34,000–10,000 -- Zhoukoudian Upper Cave -- Beijing, China -- Upper Paleolithic -- Ornaments, bone tools, burial remains
24,000–15,000 -- Mal’ta–Buret’ -- Siberia (Russia) -- Mal’ta–Buret’ Culture -- Venus figurines, bone dwellings, decorated ivory
23000 -- Ohalo II -- Sea of Galilee, Israel -- Epipaleolithic -- Huts, grinding stones, early plant processing
18,000–12,000 -- Palegawra Cave -- Iraq -- Zarzian -- Microliths, bone tools, plant remains
15000 -- Mezhirich (Epigravettian influence) -- Ukraine (Eurasian steppe) -- Epigravettian -- Mammoth-bone houses, ivory tools
14,500–12,000 -- Ain Mallaha (Eynan) -- Israel -- Natufian -- Stone houses, sickle blades, ground stone
13,000–11,000 -- Jerf el-Ahmar -- Syria -- Natufian → PPNA -- Communal buildings, ground stone tools
12,000–11,000 -- Karahan Tepe -- Southeastern Turkey -- PPNA -- Carved pillars, stone sculptures
African Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
60,000–45,000 -- Diepkloof Rock Shelter -- South Africa -- Middle Stone Age -- Engraved ostrich eggshell containers
60,000–12,000 -- Mumba Cave -- Tanzania -- Middle → Later Stone Age -- Microliths, ochre, bone tools
50,000–12,000 -- Mochena Borago -- Ethiopia -- Later Stone Age -- Microliths, hearths
46,000–12,000 -- Enkapune Ya Muto -- Kenya -- Later Stone Age -- Ostrich eggshell beads, microliths
200,000–40,000 -- Border Cave -- South Africa/Eswatini -- Middle → Later Stone Age -- Early human burials, bone points, beads
170,000–90,000 -- Pinnacle Point -- South Africa -- Middle Stone Age -- Heat‑treated stone tools, shellfish use
150,000–70,000 -- Nubian Complex Sites -- Sudan/Egypt -- Middle Stone Age -- Distinctive Nubian Levallois points
15,000–12,500 -- Taforalt (Grotte des Pigeons) -- Morocco -- Iberomaurusian -- Burials, beads, microliths
13,400–13,000 -- Jebel Sahaba -- Sudan -- Late Pleistocene -- Early cemetery, projectile injuries
100,000–70,000 -- Blombos Cave -- South Africa -- Middle Stone Age -- Engraved ochre, shell beads, bone tools, early symbolic art
195000 -- Omo Kibish -- Ethiopia -- Early Homo sapiens -- Stone flakes, early human fossils
160000 -- Herto -- Ethiopia -- Middle Stone Age -- Human fossils, butchered fauna
90000 -- Katanda -- Democratic Republic of Congo -- Middle Stone Age -- Barbed bone harpoons
Australian & Pacific Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
65,000–10,000 -- Madjedbebe (Malakunanja II) -- Northern Territory, Australia -- Early Aboriginal -- Ground stone axes, ochre, grinding stones
60,000–18,000 -- Nauwalabila I -- Northern Territory, Australia -- Early Aboriginal -- Stone flakes, ochre
50,000–30,000 -- Lake Mungo -- New South Wales, Australia -- Pleistocene Aboriginal -- Human burials, hearths, stone tools
49,000–44,000 -- Ivane Valley -- Papua New Guinea Highlands -- Early Highland occupation -- Stone tools, plant processing evidence
48,000–12,000 -- Devil’s Lair -- Western Australia -- Pleistocene Aboriginal -- Bone points, ornaments, hearths
46,000–10,000 -- Riwi Cave -- Western Australia -- Pleistocene Aboriginal -- Stone tools, ochre
45,000–11,000 -- Niah Cave (Deep Skull) -- Borneo (Malaysia) -- Upper Paleolithic -- Human remains, shell tools
43,000–20,000 -- Buang Merabak -- New Ireland, Papua New Guinea -- Early Melanesian -- Obsidian tools, shell ornaments
40,000–12,000 -- Ngarrabullgan Cave -- Queensland -- Pleistocene Aboriginal -- Stone tools, ochre
40,000–12,000 -- Bismarck Archipelago sites -- Papua New Guinea -- Early Pacific -- Obsidian transport, shell tools
35,000–12,000 -- Kutikina Cave -- Tasmania -- Late Pleistocene -- Bone tools, hearths, stone flakes
North American Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
40000 -- Valsequillo Basin (Hueyatlaco) -- Puebla, Mexico -- Pre‑Clovis? -- Stone tools (controversial dating)
30,000–13,000 -- Chiquihuite Cave -- Zacatecas, Mexico -- Pre‑Clovis -- Greenish stone tools, flakes
24,000–20,000 -- Tlapacoya -- Mexico -- Pre‑Clovis -- Stone tools, hearths
24,000–12,000 -- Bluefish Caves -- Yukon, Canada -- Pre‑Clovis -- Bone tools, butchered megafauna bones
18,000–15,000 -- Cactus Hill -- Virginia, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Blade tools, hearths
16,000–14,000 -- Cooper’s Ferry -- Idaho, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Stone flakes, hearths, bone tools
16,000–13,000 -- Gault Site -- Texas, USA -- Pre‑Clovis → Clovis -- Blade tools, bifaces, engraved stones
16,000–13,000 -- Meadowcroft Rockshelter -- Pennsylvania, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Microliths, hearths, plant remains
15,500–13,200 -- Debra L. Friedkin Site (Buttermilk Creek) -- Texas, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Bladelets, bifaces, cores
14800 -- Schäfer Mammoth Site -- Wisconsin, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Mammoth remains with butchery evidence
14500 -- Page‑Ladson -- Florida, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Mastodon bones with cut marks, stone tools
14,300–12,400 -- Paisley Caves -- Oregon, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Human coprolites, Western Stemmed points
11,000–9,000 (occupation begins slightly post‑YDB) -- El Gigante Rock Shelter -- Honduras -- Early Archaic -- Plant remains, stone tools
13800 -- Manis Mastodon Site -- Washington, USA -- Pre‑Clovis -- Mastodon rib with embedded bone projectile
South American Sites
Approx. Dates (BP) -- Site -- Location -- Cultural Phase -- Common / Iconic Artifacts
Possibly 33,000 -- Monte Verde I (MV‑I) -- Chile -- Pre‑Clovis -- Stone tools, hearths (controversial but significant)
30,000–12,000 -- Pedra Furada -- Brazil -- Pre‑Clovis -- Stone flakes, hearths (debated)
25,000–12,000 -- Serra da Capivara -- Brazil -- Pre‑Clovis -- Rock art, stone tools
18,500–14,500 -- Monte Verde II -- Chile -- Pre‑Clovis -- Wooden structures, cordage, stone tools
14200 -- Taima‑Taima -- Venezuela -- Pre‑Clovis -- El Jobo projectile points, megafauna remains
13000 -- Quebrada Jaguay -- Peru -- Early Paleoindian -- Marine tools, fishhooks
12,900–11,000 -- Piedra Museo -- Argentina -- Fell‑Fish‑Tail -- Fishtail points, bone tools
12,500–11,000 -- El Abra -- Colombia -- Late Pleistocene -- Stone tools, hearths
PERATT'S ROCK ART (Question Marks indicate not obvious Peratt style.)
Approx. Dates -- Region -- Site -- Motifs Matching Peratt
50,000–30,000 BP -- Australia?? -- Lake Mungo -- Engraved stones with geometric patterns
30,000–10,000 BP -- Australia -- Murujuga (Dampier Archipelago) -- Squatter‑man forms, rayed anthropomorphs, “caterpillar” lines, stacked disks
30,000–10,000 BP -- Asia?? -- Bhimbetka (India) -- Some stick figures with radiant limbs
30,000–10,000 BP -- Asia?? -- Shuidonggou (China) -- Sparse rock art; some geometric forms
25,000–12,000 BP -- South America?? -- Serra da Capivara (Brazil) -- Rayed anthropomorphs, stacked disks, entoptic forms
25,000–10,000 BP -- Europe?? -- Côa Valley (Portugal) -- Some abstract forms; mostly animal art
20,000+ BP -- Australia -- Kakadu / Arnhem Land -- Dynamic stick figures, rayed bodies, “X‑ray” forms with plasma‑column analogs
17,000+ BP -- Australia -- Kimberley (Bradshaw / Gwion Gwion) -- Elongated anthropomorphs with radiant appendages
12,900 BP -- South America?? -- Piedra Museo (Argentina) -- Abstract geometric forms, possible column analogs
(After Younger Dryas?)
12,000?–historic -- North America -- Chaco Canyon / Petroglyph National Monument -- Squatter‑man, rayed figures, plasma‑column shapes
12,000+ BP -- Africa -- Tassili n’Ajjer (Algeria) -- “Round‑headed” beings, rayed figures, floating disks
12,000–10,000 BP -- Europe?? -- Valcamonica (Italy) -- Some radiant anthropomorphs but mostly later
12,000–10,000 BP -- Africa?? -- Nabta Playa (Egypt) -- Abstract symbols, but not clearly Peratt‑type
10,000+ BP -- Africa -- Drakensberg (South Africa) -- Rayed anthropomorphs, entoptic patterns
10,000+ BP -- North America -- Coso Range (California) -- Anthropomorphs with radiant limbs, stacked ovals
9,000–2,000 BP -- North America -- Utah (Fremont / Barrier Canyon Style) -- “Pillar” beings, rayed heads, toroid‑like shapes
Why Peratt‑Type Motifs Cluster Where They Do
Peratt’s plasma‑instability hypothesis predicts:
• High‑energy auroral events visible at low latitudes
• Vertical plasma columns producing distinctive silhouettes
• Global visibility, but best preserved in regions with:
◦ Long rock‑art traditions
◦ Abundant sandstone surfaces
◦ Dry climates
This explains why the strongest matches occur in:
• Australia (oldest continuous rock art on Earth)
• North American Southwest (massive petroglyph fields)
• Sahara (Tassili)
• Brazil / Serra da Capivara (very early rock art)
THEY LOOK NEARLY THE SAME DESPITE THE HUGE GAP
30 KM REGION IN SW GERMANY
3 ICONIC OBJECTS
Data Construction and Coding
Analytical Methods
Key Statistical Findings
Limits and Scholarly Caution
Comparison with Other Early Symbolic Sites
Implications for the History of Information