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Eckhart Tolle, who has coined the term "the pain body" to explain what Velikovsky was suggesting is the "energy” that
has built up in the human mind/body because of these events we do NOT wish to remember. Using Eckhart Tolle's term "The Pain Body" we can grasp that all of us carry this
"encapsulated neurosis." Caused by the 9,500 b.c. catastrophe--the Pain Body
waits like an alligator in the parking lot doing "push-ups" until it can take us over.

WHY HE HAS THE THEORY THAT IT MUST BE HEALED
IN MODERN MAN if there is to be any hope to avoid
continuing the "re-play" of disaster in human affairs.
Velikovsky believes everyone on the planet has a level
of "neurosis" due to this unrecognized and suppressed
amnesia of the "Vela Supernova." It's one of his greatest theories, even beyond
what he believes actually happened--and may happen again!So..
.now we have a credible "source" for Jung's
life-long "Cassandra Complex" and why his book
"The Red Book" is, in fact, written on TWO DIFFERENT
LEVELS. One level is a mythological style anthology
of his writings and personal essays/poems. And on the
second level--to reward the people in the future who
will RECOGNIZE JUNG'S ARCHET
This is OUTSIDE of religion and must be approached from
the perspective of psychology and science...or it will get
totally bogged down and diluted. If this WERE, in fact, something
which religion could address and "cure"
--it would have done so 1,000s of years ago. We are only NOW in
the 21st century finding the light at the end of the tunnel.
You see...if religion was the answer...there would be no more war...2/3rds
of our kids wouldn't need to be taking anxiety medications...the rehab
centers would not be full to over-flowing with addicts. Velikovsky stressed
this in his revelations about the "collective trauma." This is a destructive
energy that wishes to repeat itself on ANY LEVEL that it can reach...It has
ZERO respect for your religion. And whether with an atomic BOMB or with
HATEFUL violent fights between you and your spouse--it is ALL RELATED
to the same energy field.YPAL PAINTINGS in support of
his friend Immanuel Velikovsky's theories on "Worlds in
Collision" and "Ages in Chaos" which he couldn't go on
record as supporting for fear of professional suicide
(like we watched Velikovsky endure during his career.)

So...a picture of a "Christmas Comet" over the small
village in Swizterland is NOT about Jung's
"inner demons" as the New York Times article suggested.
It is just a Christmas Comet which he and Velikovsky
KNEW from researching ancient texts and artifacts would
one day appear.
Now, we can understand that some illustrations in the
Red Book are pointing to REAL events, past and future!
Jung and Velikovsky were very close friends under the radar.

Using Eckhart Tolle's term "The Pain Body" we can grasp that all of us carry this
"encapsulated neurosis." Caused by the 9,500 b.c. catastrophe--the Pain Body
waits like an allegator in the parking lot doing "push-ups" until it can take us over.
WHY HE HAS THE THEORY THAT IT MUST BE HEALED
IN MODERN MAN if there is to be any hope to avoid
continuing the "re-play" of disaster in human affairs.
Velikovsky believes everyone on the planet has a level
of "neurosis" due to this unrecognized and suppressed
amnesia of the "Vela Supernova." It's one of his greatest theories, even beyond
what he believes actually happened--and may happen again!

Eckhart Tolle, who has coined the term "the pain body" to explain what
Velikovsky was suggesting is the "energy” that
has built up in the human mind/body because
of these events we do NOT wish to remember.

So...now we have a credible "source" for Jung's
life-long "Cassandra Complex" and why his book
"The Red Book" is, in fact, written on TWO DIFFERENT
LEVELS. One level is a mythological style anthology
of his writings and personal essays/poems. And on the
second level--to reward the people in the future who
will RECOGNIZE JUNG'S ARCHETYPAL PAINTINGS in support of
his friend Immanuel Velikovsky's theories on "Worlds in
Collision" and "Ages in Chaos" which he couldn't go on
record as supporting for fear of professional suicide
(like we watched Velikovsky endure during his career.)

So...a picture of a "Christmas Comet" over the small
village in Swizterland (below) is NOT about Jung's
"inner demons" It is just a Christmas Comet which he and Velikovsky
KNEW from researching ancient texts and artifacts would
one day appear. This is OUTSIDE of religion and must be approached from
the perspective of psychology and science...or it will get
totally bogged down and diluted. If this WERE, in fact, something
which religion could address and "cure"
--it would have done so 1,000s of years ago. We are only NOW in
the 21st century finding the light at the end of the tunnel.
You see...if religion was the answer...there would be no more war...2/3rds
of our kids wouldn't need to be taking anxiety medications...the rehab
centers would not be full to over-flowing with addicts. Velikovsky stressed
this in his revelations about the "collective trauma." This is a destructive
energy that wishes to repeat itself on ANY LEVEL that it can reach...It has
ZERO respect for your religion. And whether with an atomic BOMB or with
HATEFUL violent fights between you and your spouse--it is ALL RELATED
to the same energy field.
Now, we can understand that some illustrations in the
Red Book are pointing to REAL events, past and future!
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perpetual motion wrote:This event Velikovsky speaks of is the event that bottle necked and wiped out the coastal long head royal culture that once built all the great cities and walls and pyramids and mound cultures

Do you have a reference for this? I don't recognize this from Velikovsky's writings. And how does Jung fit in?

Well I was looking for Jung's RED BOOK when I came upon this little tid bit.Gift of Pain
Quite interesting to say the least.
Still trying to find these "long heads" and who were they.
This event Velikovsky speaks of is the event that bottle necked and wiped out the coastal long head royal culture that once built all the great cities and walls and pyramids and mound cultures. These long head clans are still found in the deepest levels of the mounds still untouched all up and down the Mississippi since settlers started selling them for fill dirt. Proof these mounds came from settlers is in their origins as they started mostly from clam and sea and fish debris, which broke down into Caliche and later diotomaceous soil which caused the mound areas to be reputed as holy spots due to being bug free zones.
These optimum zones for living became prime competition areas for good living in flea and other pest free environments compared to the primordial forests all around them so these 'holy spots' were cherished you see? Do you think you would notice a spot with no bugs in a primordial forest? You bet! These clans lived all along the shores and they piled up these land claims as they went, literally living and dying on the backs of their own ancestors. In time after the cataclysm man just moved in and took their place. This is just what we find in the tree ring type layering of the strata of the earth when it is cut back on these mounds to dig into one. This is because it was these long head clans of another species of hominid not Homo Sapien that made the old maps and did all the old sailing and cultured things that we inherited. In or around the time of this event there were two clans that met. One had looked down on the primitive hunter groups of darker men as beneath them and as a result they walled themselves off separatist like from these primitives. Denesovans looked down on and felt was beneath them had Neanderthal crossings and perhaps were mixed with some of the other groups as well in their genetic mix when they met, none of them had the red hair or blue eye gene as of yet. This was about to come in what is today modern day Turkey thanks to this meeting of Denesovans and a clan of Homo Sapiens.. So at or about the time of the Vela Supernova or when the wave of the event would have been seen and felt here these ones who saw themselves as superior came down from their walled cities up high after events and after surviving through a great cataclysm.
They were forced due to how few were left on the earth after this event to now not only mate and reproduce with those man animal slaves they once looked down on, much as Royals today look down on commoners, by no accident I might add but these Denesovans that came down from their lofty separatist abode (with objection from others of their kind) were forced through events of cataclysmic proportions to accept that they lost genetic diversity in their people! Their genetic diversity had bottle necked in this final of a three stage event over time. This great coastal event change wiped out most coastal cultures of the times and many more setting man back to a state of amnesia by the time it happened! Through this acceptance these few aware Denesovans realized they were in fact becoming extinct as a species after this event! The man animal, thought to be primitive and beneath them and of a different species of hominid than them was now very important to their survival! They must now find a way to mate and reproduce with them to carry on their clans.
Soon after accepting this inevitable extinction if they did nothing some 200 of these fallen scientists of their peoples came down to the man animal and after meeting and through various experiments, later described in detail for us by the Sumerians, they discovered how to overcome the obstacle of producing a mule when mating with the man animal! The babies produced were at first as described by the Sumerians, deformed, with various disorders from crooked spines, to not being able to move, ugly horrid looking creatures not being able to open or close their eyes, not being able to hold back urine, not being able to have a bowel movement and so on. Those created successfully grew to be sterile. Then one day the break through came! The first "Nephilim was created at this time in a lab. The experiment was reproduced again and again and the Nephilim existed in that time and after because it was after the success of the experiment the remainder came down and took all that they chose of the slave animal and made mates of them.
This new race, Homo Sapien Sapien from the mating of masses of Homo Sapiens with Denesovan went on to become the master of the planet from that place in modern day Turkey, commemorated in stone in Gobekli Tepe and another not yet divulged place being investigated real time that is even older! Original sin as it turns out was this Denesovan people coming down to the primitive man animal Homo Sapien and giving them culture. These cultured Denesovans taught the man animal how to gather harvest from crops. At first as shown in Gobekli Tepe they gathered from wild things that grew on their own. Later through teaching and exposure to the Denesovan clans the Homo Sapien grew and maintained gardens of their own! Then the Denesovans taught the man animals and later their children animal husbandry and more, the mysteries! The tree of life, as it turns out is nothing other than a tree or a plant that you yourself plant in the ground, maintain and grow to maturity and then harvest produce from to survive! Teaching the hunter gatherer this when all they knew was how to barely get by day to day compared to the far advanced cultured Denesovans was not an easy pill to swallow for all Denesovans. Then teaching grafting to make olive oil and later how to domesticate animals was the last straw for many of them! That is why those that went to the man animal were shunned and cast out by the leaders of their peoples! It stands to reason the rest of the Denesovan clan that objected to this mating still run the show. I mean after all someone came down and spoke on the mountain with Moses later in time now didn't he? So although now they have a new man animal to deal with that is actually related to them other than this make no mistake these ones that started this are still around!
This illegal mating of their clan with the slave is the event that changed the way they do things here. They have blood in us now and the blood relation for them is important. It means some among the slave animals are marked just as the records claim. The mark appears to be the blue/green/hazel, red hair/blond or golden hair/ freckles/ and perhaps even the intro of RH negative blood to the Homo Sapien lines.
If this theory is correct this explains the as yet unexplained event that brought red hair genes, blond hair genes, white skin, or even whiter skin maybe, blue eyes and most importantly RH negative blood into the new hybrid line of dark haired hunter gatherer groups now equipped with better tools for survival on this rock over their competitors. This new blood line, this very special and very elite blood line went right into Egyptian Royals and Priests all that had gained great power from many years of development. These powerful priest and leader class families each had children of their own since that time of Enoch and before!