Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

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Re: Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

by BeAChooser » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:32 pm

galaxy12 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:44 pm I have learned to ignore any article, video or post that mentions black holes, dark matter, dark energy, neutrons stars, big bang, expanding universe, relativity, etc. Why waste mental energy on science fiction?
Because your tax dollars are being wasted pursuing dark mater, dark energy, etc? Know your enemy.

Re: Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

by nick c » Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:29 pm

The very fact that the 'blackhole' can emmit such rays in the first place contradicts the definition of a blackhole, from which nothing not even light can escape.
Yes. In order to perceive a redshift we must have EM radiation, but how does the EM radiation achieve the escape velocity necessary to leave a Black Hole?

The original concept of a Black Hole was that nothing, including light, could escape. Hence the name "Black Hole".
Yet the revised edition of BHs is that all sorts of stuff is being emitted. Consensus science does not have the ability to discard that obsolete paradigm.

Re: Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

by galaxy12 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:44 pm

danda wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:26 am yeah, it's kind of like asking why a unicorn's horn is a particular length. Not an interesting question to me, because I've never seen a unicorn and don't believe they exist.
I have learned to ignore any article, video or post that mentions black holes, dark matter, dark energy, neutrons stars, big bang, expanding universe, relativity, etc. Why waste mental energy on science fiction?

Re: Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

by danda » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:26 am

yeah, it's kind of like asking why a unicorn's horn is a particular length. Not an interesting question to me, because I've never seen a unicorn and don't believe they exist.

Why is the redshift of blackhole rays the same as the one of its host Galaxy?

by mariuslvasile » Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:26 am

Why is the redshift of high energy rays emmited by blackholes the same as the one of its host Galaxy? Shouldn't it be much higher due to the additional extreme gravitational redshift of the black hole? This redshift equality between them implies that the blackhole has no gravitational shift at all !

So the answer is because gravitational redshift doesn't exist, and because black holes don't exist either. The very fact that the 'blackhole' can emmit such rays in the first place contradicts the definition of a blackhole, from which nothing not even light can escape.

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