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[quote="ttsoares"]While the brown dwarf was traveling in open space the satellites were in a normal elliptical orbit hidden in the plasma sheet.
That phase lock linear configuration seems to be the result of a huge perturbation - as it was with Comet Hale Bopp.[/quote]I agree. As I wrote, Wal thought that the polar configuration arose upon entry into the heliosphere. Let us not forget that this linear arrangement could have lasted for centuries. The heliospheric boundary is over 120 astronomical units from the Sun. Pluto is only 39 AU from the Sun, and the heliosphere itself is a vast volume of space.

[quote]Note, that Cardona thought that the polar configuration existed as Proto Saturn traveled through interstellar space, before proto Saturn was captured.[/quote]

To me that is absurd !

While the brown dwarf was traveling in open space the satellites were in a normal elliptical orbit hidden in the plasma sheet.
That phase lock linear configuration seems to be the result of a huge perturbation - as it was with Comet Hale Bopp.

If memory serves, in some of the EU talks it was said that there was a "greater and a smaller Sun". The smaller is the actual Sun approaching...

Do you know if there were any attempts to 'remove viewing' about this context ?

[quote="ttsoares"]What is
[quote="nick c"]highly speculative[/quote][/quote]The details are highly speculative. For example, do we know that the southern hemisphere was so cold most life could not survive? or that one hemisphere was all land and the other all ocean? Was the ocean frozen? or that light did not diffuse through the plasmasphere to light up the south with a dim light? Or were there intense auroras? It must be remembered that the group of Saturnists do not agree on every detail. After Velikovsky let it be known that he thought that the Earth was once a satellite of Saturn, those inspired by his work walked through that door. Talbott was first and very soon after Cardona and Cochrane followed. But there were many other versions proposed, such as that of Roger Wescott, Lynn Rose, and others.

[quote]Anyhow, where is this sequence Saturn did flare and expels Venus ?[/quote] Here is some more speculation...I opt with Wal Thornhill's model that Venus was born after the proto Saturn brown dwarf entered the plasmasphere of the Sun and became unstable. I suspect that this instability was caused by an encounter with Jupiter after proto Saturn had been in the Solar System for an unspecified time. And that encounter caused a fissioning event of Saturn. Thornhill thought that the polar configuration was formed after proto Saturn entered the Solar System...Wal thought it was a scaled up version of the linear arrangement of the pieces of Comet Hale Bopp as it entered the Jovian system. Note, that Cardona thought that the polar configuration existed as Proto Saturn traveled through interstellar space, before proto Saturn was captured.

What is [quote]highly speculative[/quote] ?

1) Planets orbit inside the plasma sheet of a brown dwarf star (BDS): purple dawn of creation.
2) The BDS interact with the photosphere of a stronger star: "Let there be light" event.
3) The Saturn center system rearrange to a phase lock alignment: Symbols of an Alien Sky.
4) Earth South hemisphere will be in total dark and cold weather. All Pangea fits in the North hemisphere, so no creature freezes.

But then the ocean in the South will freeze and accumulate a lot of water...

Anyhow, where is this sequence Saturn did flare and expels Venus ?

This is all highly speculative!
[quote="ttsoares"]That was before the first touch between the photosphere of the actual Sun and Saturn... It is not ?
While the satellites were hidden inside the red plasma of the brown dwarf.
Once the interlock alignment was formed, humans over the Earth's surface could see the firmament as the plasma atmosphere of Saturn shrunk a lot.[/quote]I think that would be consistent with Cardona's model

[quote]Anyway, if the side of the aligned planets did not receive energy from Saturn and the actual Sun was yet far away, the temperatures should be very low there.
Correct ?[/quote]I would think that it would be cooler, but if the planet was immersed in the plasma sphere of the Brown Dwarf proto Saturn the temperature differential may have been lessened. Again, this is open to speculation. Perhaps we can learn more when we can have the observational ability to analyze some Brown Dwarf systems. It seems that the technology for that is not here yet (or if it ever will).

[quote]the planet was enveloped in Proto Saturn's plasma sheath.[/quote]

That was before the first touch between the photosphere of the actual Sun and Saturn... It is not ?
While the satellites were hidden inside the red plasma of the brown dwarf.
Once the interlock alignment was formed, humans over the Earth's surface could see the firmament as the plasma atmosphere of Saturn shrunk a lot.

Anyway, if the side of the aligned planets did not receive energy from Saturn and the actual Sun was yet far away, the temperatures should be very low there.
Correct ?

I think there might be some different opinions from the leading Saturn theorists on this one. But to the best of my recollection....according to mainstream there originally was only a super continent....[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea]Pangea[/url].
Saturn Theory would have Pangea as being mostly if not all in the Northern Hemisphere. After the break up of the Proto Saturn system, Pangea would have split off into separate continents.

Also, the dark side of Earth may not have been without some subdued lighting, as the planet was enveloped in Proto Saturn's plasma sheath.

The conventional dating of Pangea puts it into the distant past, but it must be remembered that the assumptions of uniformitarian geologic history do not apply to catastrophic scenarios.

When the Saturn flare and rearrange its satellites in a row (kebab) only the North hemisphere of the Earth receive light...

So there was a night of hundreds or even thousands of years in the South ?