The impending collapse of the LCDM model

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The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:30 pm

Several recent and a few not so recent observations really seem to foretell an impending collapse of the LCDM model.

It's been known for sometime now that there's been a significant tension between the Hubble constant as it is estimated based on SN1A data and the Hubble constant estimates based on Planck data sets. I had "assumed" that the mainstream would simply try to add yet *another* ad hoc metaphysical element to their LCDM model to deal with that problem (like early dark energy), but apparently the problem doesn't lend itself very well to a metaphysical 'fix".

It does however tend to be somewhat "easily" resolved by assuming that the local universe which we live in is about 50 percent less dense than the rest of the universe.

The problem however is that the moment one takes that path to resolve the Hubble constant tension, it becomes very clear that the need for "dark energy" can also be resolved in that same density variation process. In other words, the moment one starts tinkering around with local density, the need for dark energy evaporates instantly. They can "fix' the Hubble constant tension that way alright, but it immediately calls into question the need for dark energy at all. They can't really easily have their Hubble constant cake, without eating their dark energy too. That's quite a scientific dilemma. The 'right" thing to do would be to eliminate the tension and eliminate the need for dark energy at the same time, but that blows huge holes in virtually all other areas of the expansion model.

The other recent discovery that is hazardous to the health of the LCDM model is the discovery of cosmic anisotropy. Since even before inflation theory was posited by Guth, the universe was thought to be isotropic. In fact this was one of the primary 'selling features' of inflation theory, namely that it provided a mechanism to explain that isotropic layout of matter. Technically inflation theory isn't directly included in the LCDM model, but the LCDM model assumes an isotopic universe. This again is not "easily' resolved without introducing a host of other problems related to their current computer modeling. I'm sure with some creative manipulation they can modify enough initial parameters to explain an anisotropic universe, but it's going to require a whole lot of "fine tuning" to do so, which ultimately just makes the LCDM model look that much more "contrived". So much for claiming that the current (or even any future) expansion model has been good at making accurate 'predictions". In fact there wouldn't be much left in the way of any accurate predictions were they to go that route.

In addition to the recent problems with dark energy, the whole "dark matter' claim has also fallen on hard times. Many tens of billions of dollars have been spent looking for exotic matter, and trying to undermine the standard particle physics model, all to no avail. They've virtually eliminated all the known space for WIMPS to hide in, and axion concepts have had a dismal track record as well. Even more damning, the observational evidence is also blowing huge holes in the whole dark matter concept:

https://physicsworld.com/a/satellite-ga ... ter-model/

Not only has the dark matter concept been a dismal failure in the lab, it's also refuted by observational evidence of the last couple of years.

And it gets worse. Within the last five years we've also found massive and mature galaxies that simply defy the BB model.

https://www.newsweek.com/massive-invisi ... es-1453007
https://www.icr.org/article/distant-gal ... mature-for
"These galaxies have more heavy elements than have ever been seen in a galaxy so early in the evolution of the Universe. We didn't expect the Universe to be so mature, so chemically evolved, so early on," said German researcher Sandra Savaglio, lead author of a related paper slated to appear in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.1

A core Big Bang doctrine is that certain stars process lighter elements into heavy elements. The Big Bang supposedly only produced the lightest elements, hydrogen and helium. Astronomers speculate that after millions of years, hydrogen clouds condensed into stars. And then eons passed before those stars became mature enough to create the heavier elements, all of which astronomers call "metals." But stars never could have formed this way, and these new observations fly in the face of that doctrine.2

Instead of immature and lightweight galactic elements in these very distant galaxies, "the emerging picture is that the spread in metallicity is large at any redshift [distance]," according to the authors.3 The researchers analyzed the gamma-ray burst spectral lines, which showed that the galaxies through which the ray traveled contained more metals than the sun.

Distant galaxies appear just as mature as those near to earth, as though there was no relative time difference between the galaxies' formation. For example, very distant spiral galaxies—where stars are arranged in great, winding arms—appear to have undergone the same amount of spiral arm winding as closer ones. This is consistent with the idea that astronomical time runs, or used to run, at very different rates than earth time.4 It also matches the proposed idea that distant starlight takes no time to travel to earth.5
Not only are distant galaxies more massive than predicted by the LCDM model, but they're also far too "mature". They have too many heavy elements present, and they have distinct spiral patterns that ultimately should not have formed yet according to the LCDM model. This is a *serious* problem for any model which predicts galaxy evolution over time, namely *any* expansion model which assumes a 'bang" where matter as we know it was formed. There's no easy 'fix" for this issue either.

And that is but the tip of the iceberg. High redshift observations also reveal massive quasars which defy the LCDM model.

https://www.ibtimes.com/massive-quasars ... on-2537928
"No current theoretical models can explain the existence of these objects," Joseph Hennawi, who leads the team from the Max Planck Institute, said in the statement. "The discovery of these young objects challenges the existing theories of black hole formation and will require new models to better understand how black holes and galaxies formed."

If you recall from my conversations with Higgsy, he desperately tried separate the LCDM model from galaxy formation theories (and presumably quasar formation theories) because it's now quite clear that there is a *serious* problem with mainstream's prediction of galaxy evolution and quasar formation models. There simply is no evidence at all that is left standing that galaxies evolve over time, or that the distant universe looks any different than the local universe. Both the galaxy evolution concept and the quasar formation concept are utterly destroyed by recent (last three years) observations. There's essentially nothing left standing as it relates to either 'prediction".

It's irrational however to try to separate galaxy formation models from the LCDM model itself because without a "bang", there's no no real need to even "predict' the existence of galaxies at high redshifts which are metal poor, or lacking in spiral features. These are predictions that are directly related to the notion of an original "bang" which resulted in the formation of all elements on the periodic table, and which then requires a progression of complexity over time. A static universe model for instance requires no such predictions. The only reason that astronomers are keen to separate the LCDM model from galaxy formation models is to try to deflect attention away from the fact that the LCDM model has failed yet another series of important 'tests' of the expansion model.

When you add up all of those recent contradictions of the LCMD model, it really doesn't make any sense to try to "preserve" the concept of expansion as the cause of redshift. There's nothing really left to support that model to begin with. It might be different if galaxies showed a pattern of evolution over time, but they don't. It might be different if massive quasars didn't exist in the distant/early universe, but they do.

The "logical" thing to do now is to simply toss out the whole LCDM model and take a closer look at Edwin Hubble's *preferred* explanation for redshift, namely tired light models. Such models do *not* defy the conservation of energy laws like 'space expansion' models. They don't require the distant universe to look radically different from our local universe either. Tired light models better jive with the recent observational evidence of the high redshift universe, and they resolve all the key problems in one fell swoop.

Now of course I don't expect that astronomers will immediately do an about face and embrace tired light explanations for redshift immediately, but the handwriting is definitely on the wall. They can prolong the inevitable for awhile, but JWST is going to reveal a distant universe that looks exactly like the local universe and it simply won't support the LCDM model. Assuming all goes well with the JWST program, that's all going to occur within the next three to five years.

The clock is definitely ticking on the LCDM model. It's showing it's age now, and it's falling apart at the seams. There's nothing particularly compelling about the LCDM model based on recent evidence, and it's only a matter of time before JWST images start to tear it apart.

A few years ago I was rather skeptical that I'd live to see the day when the LCDM model was replaced by EU/PC theory, but I'm becoming a lot more optimistic as time passes. The last three or four years have been *devastating* to the LCDM model in terms of what we're discovering about our universe. Our physical universe simply isn't conforming to the LCDM model, and there's a good reason why. We don't live in an expanding universe, we live in a static universe. We don't need metaphysics to explain what we observe in space, we simply need to abandon metaphysics entirely and return to the lab and return to empirical physical explanations.

There was nothing really "good" about the LCDM model in the first place, but recent observational evidence simply blows it out of the water. It's bad enough that it's based upon 95 percent placeholder terms for human ignorance, but it's also in direct conflict with the evidence we see at high redshift, and in direct conflict with the laboratory tests for the last decade.

It may take another decade for astronomers to embrace reality, but eventually they'll have to do so. It's only a matter of time now, and the time of the LCDM model is very short. In fact it's already over, but nobody wants to admit it yet. JWST isn't going to be kind to the LCDM model and it's certainly not going to save it. It would be best for the mainstream to simply admit that the expansion model is woefully at odds with the distant universe, sooner rather than later. The longer this charade continues, the more damage they will do to their reputations. There's already *plenty* of evidence to show that the LCDM model is false, and plenty of evidence to suggest that now is the time to do something about it.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:25 pm

Excellent Post. It's a shame that you can't get that published in any mainstream scientific or even regular publication. If you could, that might help speed up the demise of LCDM by a year or two ... because after COVID people aren't going to be in the mood to waste billions chasing gnomes.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:39 pm

https://phys.org/news/2020-04-rotating- ... lpine.html
New results from an ambitious sky survey program, called ALPINE, reveal that rotating disk-shaped galaxies may have existed in large numbers earlier in the universe than previously thought.
Essentially every high redshift observation defies the "predictions" of the LCDM model. Everything is always a big surprise. The JWST program is going to crush the LCDM model.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by neilwilkes » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:50 pm

Michael Mozina wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:39 pm https://phys.org/news/2020-04-rotating- ... lpine.html
New results from an ambitious sky survey program, called ALPINE, reveal that rotating disk-shaped galaxies may have existed in large numbers earlier in the universe than previously thought.
Essentially every high redshift observation defies the "predictions" of the LCDM model. Everything is always a big surprise. The JWST program is going to crush the LCDM model.
We can but hope.
I also find it highly amusing how Birkeland has been proven correct when he theorized that the majority of the mass in the Universe would be found in the "empty" space between galaxies, which we now know to be anything *but* empty given the enormous amounts of dust (attracted to the intergalactic birkeland currents just like the "magic dusters" work) and plasma present.
No need for Dark Matter - you really might as well go on a Unicorn hunt as the stuff simply does not exist. The lack of any observable WIMPS, plus the total absence of any symmetry at the LHC really should kill off the whole SUSY concept as well, so with LCDM dead in the interstellar medium, SUSY falsified, String theory gone for burton etc - all we are left with is Plasma Cosmology, so the last 100 or so years worth of massive spending has been an absolute catastrophic waste of money.
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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:03 pm

neilwilkes wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:50 pm We can but hope.
I also find it highly amusing how Birkeland has been proven correct when he theorized that the majority of the mass in the Universe would be found in the "empty" space between galaxies, which we now know to be anything *but* empty given the enormous amounts of dust (attracted to the intergalactic birkeland currents just like the "magic dusters" work) and plasma present.
No need for Dark Matter - you really might as well go on a Unicorn hunt as the stuff simply does not exist. The lack of any observable WIMPS, plus the total absence of any symmetry at the LHC really should kill off the whole SUSY concept as well, so with LCDM dead in the interstellar medium, SUSY falsified, String theory gone for burton etc - all we are left with is Plasma Cosmology, so the last 100 or so years worth of massive spending has been an absolute catastrophic waste of money.
The sad part is that Birkeland's work was essentially ignored by the mainstream for over 50 years until satellites in space demonstrated that he was right about aurora, and then the mainstream promptly ignored every other part of his work for the next 50+ years. :(

The hunt for exotic matter has been the most expensive metaphysical snipe hunt in the history of physics, and it's been unnecessary from the start.

I think the final blow the the LCDM model will be delivered by the JWST program when it starts returning deep field images of the high redshift universe. The mainstream concept of galaxy evolution over time will simply *not* hold up to that scrutiny. There's already ample evidence of that fact in the scientific record. You don't need a crystal ball at this point to realize that the high redshift universe looks pretty much identical to our local region of space, and it has always been that way.

When you look at Birkeland's full body of work, and the huge number of successful predictions he made, it's very humbling. Not only was he right about most of the mass of the universe being contained in particles *between* stars, he was correct about the solar wind, it's content, direction and speed, the fact that "space" has a net positive charge in the form of cosmic rays, aurora, solar atmospheric physics and the whole nine yards. The mainstream has ignored plasma physics as it relates to space for over a century, but the time will soon be upon us when his other work can no longer be ignored.

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Consider the tactics being used to keep the LCDM model alive

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:54 pm

I think it's worth looking at the tactics which are currently being used to attempt to keep the LCDM model on life support, and to get a handle on it's true "health".

In order to keep the LCDM model from imploding under it's own weight, first and foremost it is absolutely imperative that the mainstream *not* allow for the free exchange of cosmology ideas on the internet. That's why we see astronomy oriented websites like Cosmoquest impose a draconian rule system which separates any dissenting topics into an "against the mainstream" forum, where time limits are then imposed on how long such topics can even be discussed. That's also why EU/PC proponents are routinely and instantly banned from various astronomy based forums. Were there to be a real and free exchange of ideas allowed on astronomy based forums, there's simply no way that the LCDM model would survive open scrutiny and an honest skeptical review. I've literally seen mainstream astronomers talk about "protecting the flock", apparently because they're afraid that empirical wolves might steal their students. :)

It's also rather obvious that *disinformation* and misinformation about EU/PC models (plural) is a necessary part of keeping the lid on the problem. So called "professionals" like Koberlein actually commit blatant professional fraud by producing "disinformation hit pieces" on the internet where they go out of their way to *misrepresent* the actual scientific facts, such as erroneously claiming that EU solar models predict "no neutrinos", and would necessarily produce a different spectrum than the standard solar model. Links to these disinformation hit pieces are then posted all over the internet any time that the topic is brought up. This is also why we see the mainstream keeping very tight control of WIKI pages, including pages related to EU/PC models. Any changes to WIKI pages to make them more scientifically accurate are instantly deleted and the person making the changes is banned from making any further modifications. Without the intentional *distortion* of the truth, it again would be nearly impossible to keep the LCDM model alive. Only by flat out *misrepresenting* the facts about EU/PC models is it possible to keep the lid on the inevitable growth of empirical alternatives to the LCDM model.

Here's another great example of this kind of blatant disinformation:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... p?t=144610
But...* Radio galaxies are almost universally hosted in elliptical galaxies.
Horse manure:

https://rsaa.anu.edu.au/study/potential ... adio-lobes

Spiral galaxies (like ours) also produce radio waves galore.

Of course the whole hit piece is simply wrong of course, but look at how far they're go to distort the basic facts:
Galactic plasma filaments should be easily detected.
The large electric current through them will cause synchrotron radiation. There is no evidence for this. See the forum posting Cluster-sized diffuse radio waveband synchrotron radiation and its footnote:

....

Galactic plasma filaments are not stable.
The SPLASH simulation started with 2 columns that were 32 grids high and 6 wide (the grids defined the spatial extent of the simulation). The 1983 paper describing the SPLASH simulation does mention that periodic boundary conditions are imposed (this essentially makes the simulated filaments infinite in length). So it is possible that the factor of 10,000 between the filament lengths in the simulation and model is not a factor. However in my (limited) knowledge of plasma physics, long filaments of plasma are inherently unstable.
Not only are these current carrying filaments in space "easily detected", they've also *extremely* stable:

https://www.livescience.com/65653-abell ... ysics.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... tronomers/

While these radio wave emitting filaments mystify LCDM proponents, they're actually "successful predictions" of the EU/PC cosmology model. Not only are they highly visible, they're also highly stable. It's that kind of *blatant* misrepresentation of the facts that I find most annoying. Another great example of this distortion of truth is the constant misinformation about there being no mathematical support of EU/PC theory. Apparently if they haven't bothered to read any of Alfven's mathematical work or Perattt's work or Lerner's work, or Birkeland's work, or Scott's work, it must not exist. Note that with the exception of Koberlein and a few others, this type of disinformation is almost always done "anonymously", without even the benefit of knowing who's actually doing it. What a bunch of frauds and cowards.

Another common tactic of the mainstream is to fixate on what I would call a "focus on minutia" related to EU/PC theory. A great example of this kind of fixation on a trivial issues can be found on ISF. For years they've fixated on an "electric comet" topic, as though disproving, or finding some flaw in that comet model somehow invalidates all of Birkeland's lab work on solar physics, or all of Peratt's work on computer modeling, or all of Alfven's work on cosmology. The mainstream will prattle on endlessly about subtopics that really have little or anything at all to do with the core features of EU/PC cosmological models, like circuit theory or the filamentary processes in plasma predicted by EU/PC theory. By fixating on these types of virtually irrelevant issues, they distract the conversations away from solar physics topics or other topics that are far more important and relevant to determining the validity of EU/PC cosmology models. This is a bit like a "magic trick", where the attention of the observer is distracted away from the actual important features of alternative models.

The other obvious "method" of deflection is pure confirmation bias. There are no real "tests" of the LCDM model because every time it fails one or more of those tests, the results are simply ignored (like dark matter tests), or they're downplayed like the 5+ sigma problems with mainstream Hubble constant problems and the complete lack of any need whatsoever for "dark energy". Another great example is the fact that galaxies do *not* show any signs of evolution over time. Instead we find massive and "mature" galaxies for as far as we can see into spacetime. Such predictive failures are simply swept under the rug. In short, *pure denial* is also an integral part of keeping the LCMD model alive in 2020.

So essentially the primary 'methods" uses to keep the LCDM model on life support are *pure denial*, virtual execution of all heretics, pure disinformation, and petty fixations on irrelevant nonsense. Without the magic tricks, flat out lies, and pure denial, the LCDM model is DOA. It's bad enough that it violates that conservation of energy laws *two different ways*, but it's predictive track record is pitiful, and it's held together by flat out misrepresenting the truth about alternative models.

The problem for the mainstream is that none of these methods are even the tiniest bit "ethical", and they won't save the LCDM model from eventually biting the dust. The best they can do is prolong the inevitable, but the JWST program is going to be very unkind to the LCDM model at high redshift. This kind of unethical behavior is destined to fail over the long haul, but it's reasonably effective in the short term. Unfortunately however, time and technology are catching up to them pretty quickly, and it won't be long before even these highly unethical tactics cannot save the LCDM model forever. The public is catching on, and the technology is catching up to them even faster. :)

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Fri May 01, 2020 4:27 pm

I left out one other "unethical debate tactic" that is often used by EU/PC haters (LCDM faithful), specifically argument by personal ridicule. There really aren't more than maybe a dozen or so hardcore EU/PC haters out there in cyberspace, but they're quite vocal and they're about as unethical as they come in terms of their debate style.

They typically rely upon personal attack terms like "crackpot", "crank", "idiotic", "cult", "lies", "insane", "delusion", "demented", yada, yada, yada and any other loaded terms which attack the *individual* rather than deal with the idea or the topic itself. This highly unprofessional and highly unethical debate practice is best exemplified at ISF by individuals like "reality check and "jonesdave116" who rely *repetitively* and *exclusively* upon such unethical debate tactics, all the while hiding like complete cowards behind (sometimes multiple) anonymous handles no less. I've personally seen jonedave116 use at least three different anonymous handles on different boards now to try to hide his real identity and to confuse the person he's communicating with. That's just childish and cowardly behavior.

They can't handle an honest scientific debate on cosmology because the LCDM model is simply *metaphysical garbage* when it comes right down to it. They therefore have to *cheat* in debate by deflecting the conversation away from the *topic* and attacking the *individual*.

This kind of unethical behavior isn't going to change the fact that the LCDM model is falling apart at the seams and being destroyed by every new high redshift observation, and every new lab "test".

It doesn't change the fact that the dark matter models have been a total disaster in the lab to the tune of tens of billions of dollars in wasted "tests" which are never used to falsify anything. It doesn't change the fact that the LCMD model has a 5+ sigma tension related to the Hubble constant, and the only feasible "fix" also eliminates any need for "dark energy" at all! It doesn't change the fact that the LCDM model *grossly* violates the conservation of energy laws, not just once, but *twice*, both with "space expansion" and a second time with "dark energy". It doesn't change the fact that the LCDM's requirement for 'galaxy evolution over time' is being destroyed with every new high redshift observation. It doesn't change the fact that massive quasars have been found which completely defy the LCDM model. It doesn't change the fact that 95 percent of the LCDM model amounts to nothing more than placeholder terms for human ignorance. It doesn't change the fact that the "big bang" model require *four* separate metaphysical constucts, including "space expansion", 'inflation', 'dark energy' and 'dark matter'.

Nothing is going to save the LCDM model from eventually suffering the same fate as Ptolemy. It's simply a matter of time. I think deep down inside even the haters know that, which is why they always hide behind cowardly anonymous handles. They're deathly afraid of anyone knowing their real identity because they know they'll eventually go down in historical flames, and they don't want anyone to know their true identity. They're just complete cowards, one and all.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by neilwilkes » Sun May 17, 2020 11:14 am

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.00011.pdf

No Axions either - another DM candidate gone the way of the Unicorn.

Another cracker of a nail in the coffin - https://chandra.cfa.harvard.edu/photo/2020/isotropic/
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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Tue May 19, 2020 2:10 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/amp/ncna1005541
Given the stakes, everyone involved is checking and rechecking their results for possible sources of error. Increasingly, though, it looks like the problem lies not with the observations but with the theories of cosmology that underpin them. If those theories are wrong or incomplete, the interpretation of the Planck readings will be flawed, too.

"There's currently no consistent story that works for all our cosmological data," says Princeton University astrophysicist Jo Dunkley, who has extensively analyzed the Planck results. "That means there is fascinating work to be done, to see if there is something out there that can explain all of it."
It turns out that there's a "relatively easy" way to reconcile the two Hubble constant figures, but unfortunately the "fix" for the Hubble constant problem also highlights the redundant nature of the LCDM "dark energy" claim.

https://phys.org/news/2020-03-mystery-e ... verse.html

https://academic.oup.com/ptep/article/2 ... 01/5529353

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... via%3Dihub
In particular, about 10% difference between the local and global Hubble parameters may be safely explained within the framework of linear perturbation theory, with the help of the spatial averaging procedure defined over a finite spatial domain in the t=constant hypersurface . Finally, we would like to mention an interesting possibility of solving the apparent acceleration of cosmic expansion. One of the present authors has reanalyzed the observed magnitude—redshift (⁠m—z⁠) relation of type Ia supernovae (SNe Ia) and has examined the possibility that the apparent acceleration of the cosmic expansion is not caused by dark energy but is instead a consequence of the large-scale inhomogeneities in the universe [5]. He has concluded that, assuming the inhomogeneous Hubble parameter, a larger value of H0 in the nearby, low-redshift region than that in the distant, high-redshift region may be sufficient to explain the observed m—z relation for SNe Ia, without introducing dark energy. (Reference listed below).
https://academic.oup.com/ptp/article/117/6/1067/1917367

Suggesting density variation in spacetime is also consistent with recent discoveries of anisotrophy in the universe:

http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/aniso ... 08312.html

Essentially both the current tension in the Hubble constant, and enigma of "dark energy" could both be nothing more than mathematical "artifacts" which are related to the density differences within the universe at various scales. It's a potential solution that solves two major problems in astronomy today, and it *seriously* threatens the dark energy claims of the LCDM model and the LCDM itself.

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There's no evidence of galaxy evolution over time.

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Wed May 20, 2020 5:24 pm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 124947.htm
"Most galaxies that we find early in the universe look like train wrecks because they underwent consistent and often 'violent' merging," explained Neeleman. "These hot mergers make it difficult to form well-ordered, cold rotating disks like we observe in our present universe."

In most galaxy formation scenarios, galaxies only start to show a well-formed disk around 6 billion years after the Big Bang. The fact that the astronomers found such a disk galaxy when the universe was only ten percent of its current age, indicates that other growth processes must have dominated.
Translation: The LCDM model failed yet another key "prediction" of the model. The model doesn't predict these types of ordered rotation patterns to emerge for 6 billion years after the supposed "bang", and yet we've seeing them within 1.5 billion years, and we haven't even seen any JWST data yet.

The LCDM model has a *huge* problem with it's requirement of galaxy evolution over time. It's come into direct conflict with reality. We don't see just "train wrecks" happening in distant space, we see massive and mature and well ordered galaxies in the distant universe too, features which simply defy the BB model.

The observed conflicts between the LCDM "predictions' and actual observations are becoming more numerous by the year. Technologies are catching up to the LCDM model and simply ripping it to shreds on a repetitive basis.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by EtherQuestions » Thu May 21, 2020 8:57 pm

First the LCDM model, but then what other theoretical dogma gets tossed out? :geek:

Instead of being worried about their credential status - they should evolve and get ahead while they can discovering new waters. There is more long term personal gain to be made from jumping ship early, or just wait to be ridiculed like the old zealots of Ptolemy and (so-called) Aristotelian dogma! :lol:
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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by crawler » Fri May 22, 2020 12:24 am

Which bits of LCDM are going to fall?
What might remain?
What is a better model of the universe?
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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Fri May 22, 2020 4:50 am

EtherQuestions wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 8:57 pm First the LCDM model, but then what other theoretical dogma gets tossed out? :geek:

Instead of being worried about their credential status - they should evolve and get ahead while they can discovering new waters. There is more long term personal gain to be made from jumping ship early, or just wait to be ridiculed like the old zealots of Ptolemy and (so-called) Aristotelian dogma! :lol:
One would *think* that a conscious return to empirical physics, and a preference for empirical explanations to events in space would be in order. If the 'dark energy' fiasco didn't teach us anything else, it should teach us that observation also requires *interpretation*, and inventing new forms of energy and mass on a whim is a bad idea.

The term 'dark matter' has also lost all sense of falsification potential because it's become a catch-all phrase for "whatever we make up on a whim". It too should get the boot when dark energy gets the boot and *electric* field influences should be reconsidered in light of Peratt's computer simulation work in galaxy formation modeling. Dark matter simply isn't necessary to explain plasma rotation patterns in space, and the mainstream's galaxy mass estimates have never been close to accurate to begin with.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Fri May 22, 2020 4:57 am

IMO however the "biggest" problem in cosmology today is the fact that cosmologists today continuously and willfully misrepresent Edwin Hubble's own position on the observation of redshift in space. Later in his life and his career Hubble personally chose to prefer a 'tired light' explanation for redshift in space. He therefore did not "prove" or claim to demonstrate that the universe was expanding, in spite of that false narrative being repeated in almost every cosmology presentation by LCDM proponents.

The EU/PC model is *adaptive* to and capable of applying to either an expansion explanation for redshift as Alfven chose to do, or to a static universe as Lerner has suggested. It doesn't matter in terms of EU/PC theory, the circuit aspects of the theory don't change.

The BB model however allows for no public debate about the actual cause of photon redshift over distance. Tired light models are irrationally ruled out en mass, in favor of a model which violates the conservation of energy laws *twice*.

It will be pretty much impossible to free ourselves entirely from mainstream dogma without openly reconsidering the actual cause of photon redshift, and debate the scientific merits of various redshift models.

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Re: The impending collapse of the LCDM model

Unread post by neilwilkes » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:26 am

Michael Mozina wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:50 am
EtherQuestions wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 8:57 pm First the LCDM model, but then what other theoretical dogma gets tossed out? :geek:

Instead of being worried about their credential status - they should evolve and get ahead while they can discovering new waters. There is more long term personal gain to be made from jumping ship early, or just wait to be ridiculed like the old zealots of Ptolemy and (so-called) Aristotelian dogma! :lol:
One would *think* that a conscious return to empirical physics, and a preference for empirical explanations to events in space would be in order. If the 'dark energy' fiasco didn't teach us anything else, it should teach us that observation also requires *interpretation*, and inventing new forms of energy and mass on a whim is a bad idea.

The term 'dark matter' has also lost all sense of falsification potential because it's become a catch-all phrase for "whatever we make up on a whim". It too should get the boot when dark energy gets the boot and *electric* field influences should be reconsidered in light of Peratt's computer simulation work in galaxy formation modeling. Dark matter simply isn't necessary to explain plasma rotation patterns in space, and the mainstream's galaxy mass estimates have never been close to accurate to begin with.
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Galactic Mass estimates are so off it's not funny - one is minded of Kristian Birkeland's statement that the majority of the mass in the universe is to be found in what used to be thought of as intergalactic 'space'
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