Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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Continuation of this thread: https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/php ... 10&t=17521

Replication of Eric Dollard's Analog Computer (Longitudinal electricity simple circuit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8drfI4j9o

Non Linear (longitudinal) Power Transmission With Tesla Hairpin Circuit (Alex Petty demmo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3YJQdZmis

Single Wire Transmission Line based on Nikola Tesla inventions (longitudinal electric wave demo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dewI_VVMb38

Visualisation of Longitudinal waves in an plasma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjbqy6CWnY0

TESLA'S Secret TECH: Tesla Teleforce or Scalar 'waves'. What they are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKzfKwKSDM

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:34 am

I wonder if birkeland currents also have electric field (dielectric field) and magnetic field in 0 degree space conjunction instead of 90 degree quadrature space opposition you find in conventional AC and DC electricity. This is not supposed to happen according to mainstream physics so it breaks the laws of electromagnetism. What if Z-pinch in birkeland currents is actually a electrical compression and that electrical compression is where all stars form?

Transverse:
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You may notice that the Magnetic energy is in Space OPPOSITION with the Dielectric energy

Longitudinal:
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You may notice that the Magnetic energy is in Space CONJUNCTION with the Dielectric energy

Source: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by EtherQuestions » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:01 pm

It seems at least for now the Electric Universe model at least officially is in the conventional model of electron flow. It would take more absolute proof for that to change as having an alternative cosmological theory alone is walking a tightrope and inviting the typical stupid labels of "pseudoscience" from ignorant people.

I'm personally on the fence, I've seen huge evidence for the old school (now forgotten) model that the excess potential is stored in the dielectric medium of a capacitor (i.e. in the "electric field" itself) and not just on the plates themselves as an excess of charged particles (electrons) as the current (and still not empirically proven) model believes. Even electrons themselves (the standard model) have never been directly observed and all their properties empirically verified, only their path of photoelectric discharge or "trajectory" in a magnetic field has been observed not the geometry and properties of the particle itself.

As Nikola Tesla's predictions have proven reliable again and again (even cosmic muons he predicted in a paper (he said they would be FTL, which could actually be an alternative decay explanation than our attributed "time dilation") and also what have recently called "photon bunching" at cold temperatures he referenced as predictions, just without the names we give them), it is not unreasonable then to think he was right about electric universe cosmology, electricity, and many other things. He could be wrong, but he has a hell of a track record.
"Considering there is no reactive force even considered in the interaction between mass and space in General Relativity's space-curvature field equations, even though both can likewise act on one another, it is therefore in direct violation of Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 am

According to Eric Dollard, Tesla had built a wireless power transmission system where he was able to transmit DC power at long distance like a laser beam which isn't possible with conventional wireless power transmission of today which is only useful to charge smartphones as you lose 90% of power to surrounding environment.

Since birkeland current can transmit and receive power wirelessly from star to star and galaxy to galaxy covering distance of light years with no real power loss therefore the electricity in birkeland current is not traveling in conventional fashion we are familiar with.

Eric Dollard - Longitudinal Energy (Scalar Waves - Mutual Induction - Wireless Transmission of DC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3ETTd6bPI

Wireless Giant of the Pacific book by Eric Dollard: http://ericpdollard.com/books-videos/wi ... e-pacific/

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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spark wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 am
Since birkeland current can transmit and receive power wirelessly from star to star and galaxy to galaxy covering distance of light years with no real power loss therefore the electricity in birkeland current is not traveling in conventional fashion we are familiar with.
It's not wireless though. The "wire" is made of plasma in this case.

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:22 pm

I didn't think that, you are right. Longitudinal electric power is transmitted through plasma. Tesla's longitudinal electric power was transmitted through the earth. We just replace earth with plasma in case of space. The reason there is no real loss of power like we have in conventional electricity whether wired or wireless is because the dielectric field (aka electric field or electrostatic field) and magnetic field is in 0 degree conjunction in longitudinal electricity instead of 90 degree quadrature. Check: https://youtu.be/kH3ETTd6bPI?t=412 Also the reason Tesla was able to transmit DC wirelessly over long distance with no real loss or low losses is because he figured out how to make DC behave like a laser beam.

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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Radiant Power produced by solid state Tesla hairpin circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Flj1i0zQ-8

Radiant Health Benefits From Solid State Tesla Hairpin Circuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaNpeYKO74

Nikola Tesla's Radiant Energy Part 1-3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDUZtnUMCo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxd-Ym2uB9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaK49Am1yNk

Radiant energy bifilar coil experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lByUMEg0OHs

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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Nikola Tesla's Radiant Energy Research by Gerry Vassilatos:
http://www.unariunwisdom.com/wp-content ... ilatos.pdf
Chapter Starts at Page 18.

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

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Peter Lindemann Tesla's Radiant Energy ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZIOj4BziHQ

Peter Lindemann - Secrets of Cold Electricity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXX_g49tLeU

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by EtherQuestions » Tue May 12, 2020 5:56 am

spark wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:22 pm
I didn't think that, you are right. Longitudinal electric power is transmitted through plasma. Tesla's longitudinal electric power was transmitted through the earth. We just replace earth with plasma in case of space. The reason there is no real loss of power like we have in conventional electricity whether wired or wireless is because the dielectric field (aka electric field or electrostatic field) and magnetic field is in 0 degree conjunction in longitudinal electricity instead of 90 degree quadrature. Check: https://youtu.be/kH3ETTd6bPI?t=412 Also the reason Tesla was able to transmit DC wirelessly over long distance with no real loss or low losses is because he figured out how to make DC behave like a laser beam.
"The reason there is no real loss of power like we have in conventional electricity whether wired or wireless is because the dielectric field (aka electric field or electrostatic field) and magnetic field is in 0 degree conjunction in longitudinal electricity instead of 90 degree quadrature."

Are you referring to the sine wave reading of potential/current or geometric angles of the physical field direction? And is this the dielectric field in the capacitor or conducting wire (e.g. pinch effect)?

I heard something in this theoretical position on EM that heat losses in the conductor are a frictional "drag" of the transient EM field and not flowing electrons. How does the 0 degree conjunction in the longitudinal electricity stop this frictional drag? By 0 degree does this mean the fields are no longer orthogonal (90 degrees) and are now physically pointing in the same direction?

Would a ferrous magnetic needle then point in the same direction as a dielectric needle when dangled over the conductor?
"Considering there is no reactive force even considered in the interaction between mass and space in General Relativity's space-curvature field equations, even though both can likewise act on one another, it is therefore in direct violation of Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Wed May 13, 2020 7:25 am

EtherQuestions wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:56 am
"The reason there is no real loss of power like we have in conventional electricity whether wired or wireless is because the dielectric field (aka electric field or electrostatic field) and magnetic field is in 0 degree conjunction in longitudinal electricity instead of 90 degree quadrature."

Are you referring to the sine wave reading of potential/current or geometric angles of the physical field direction? And is this the dielectric field in the capacitor or conducting wire (e.g. pinch effect)?

I heard something in this theoretical position on EM that heat losses in the conductor are a frictional "drag" of the transient EM field and not flowing electrons. How does the 0 degree conjunction in the longitudinal electricity stop this frictional drag? By 0 degree does this mean the fields are no longer orthogonal (90 degrees) and are now physically pointing in the same direction?

Would a ferrous magnetic needle then point in the same direction as a dielectric needle when dangled over the conductor?
Transverse and Longitudinal electric wave tests by JLN Labs: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm
Eric Dollard's demonstration of Tesla's Longitudinal electricity: http://ericpdollard.com/free-videos/tra ... ectricity/
If you use Trifield meter, you can measure that the electric field and magnetic field are flowing in the same direction meaning they are in 0 degree conjunction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8drfI4j9o Longitudinal electricity also allows for load to be powered with just one wire.
I don't know whether ferrous magnetic needle would point in the same direction as a dielectric needle when dangled over the conductor as no one has done that before for longitudinal electricity flowing on a conductor.
You will need to ask Eric Dollard about more as he is the one who knows best about it: http://ericpdollard.com/contact-eric-dollard/
LMD wave needs thorough research to correctly determine whats what and whats actually happening. Currently there's little known about LMD wave as mainstream scientific community think electricity only exist as transverse wave.
Also i think birkeland currents likely have longitudinal nature to it with electrical compression and rarefaction taking place. Electrical compression may be the cause of Z-pinch possibly.

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by EtherQuestions » Wed May 20, 2020 3:27 pm

spark wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 7:25 am


If you use Trifield meter, you can measure that the electric field and magnetic field are flowing in the same direction meaning they are in 0 degree conjunction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8drfI4j9o Longitudinal electricity also allows for load to be powered with just one wire.
I don't know whether ferrous magnetic needle would point in the same direction as a dielectric needle when dangled over the conductor as no one has done that before for longitudinal electricity flowing on a conductor.

LMD wave needs thorough research to correctly determine whats what and whats actually happening. Currently there's little known about LMD wave as mainstream scientific community think electricity only exist as transverse wave.
Also i think birkeland currents likely have longitudinal nature to it with electrical compression and rarefaction taking place. Electrical compression may be the cause of Z-pinch possibly.
Perhaps the SAFIRE project could explore LMD waves if it helps to understand Birkeland currents?

I know Donald Scott's opinion that rotation and counter-rotation can only be observed in BC might be wrong as a permanent magnet's field shown against a CTR screen, or a precision gyroscope spun against the pole shows what could be both a counterclockwise and clockwise spin (one in the center of the pole, one in the outer edge) - I think experimentation on rotational magnetic effects and LMD waves both discoveries paired with clear representation of results that can be replicated could take the BC model a long way.

LMD waves certainly exist, but a theoretical explanation for the phenomena is completely absent in modern physics.
"Considering there is no reactive force even considered in the interaction between mass and space in General Relativity's space-curvature field equations, even though both can likewise act on one another, it is therefore in direct violation of Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Fri May 22, 2020 10:15 am

EtherQuestions wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 3:27 pm
Perhaps the SAFIRE project could explore LMD waves if it helps to understand Birkeland currents?

I know Donald Scott's opinion that rotation and counter-rotation can only be observed in BC might be wrong as a permanent magnet's field shown against a CTR screen, or a precision gyroscope spun against the pole shows what could be both a counterclockwise and clockwise spin (one in the center of the pole, one in the outer edge) - I think experimentation on rotational magnetic effects and LMD waves both discoveries paired with clear representation of results that can be replicated could take the BC model a long way.

LMD waves certainly exist, but a theoretical explanation for the phenomena is completely absent in modern physics.
Also if Safire Project were to explore and replicate this experiment of electrical engineer Eric Dollard viewtopic.php?f=11&t=195 with Tesla Coils and LMD waves, Safire Project can be taken to the next level by creating fractal electric galaxies inside a partial vacuum chamber filled with various gases and metal vapors. It can experimentally confirm electric universe theory and further advance our understanding of electric/plasma universe.

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by EtherQuestions » Mon May 25, 2020 4:16 am

spark wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:15 am


Also if Safire Project were to explore and replicate this experiment of electrical engineer Eric Dollard viewtopic.php?f=11&t=195 with Tesla Coils and LMD waves, Safire Project can be taken to the next level by creating fractal electric galaxies inside a partial vacuum chamber filled with various gases and metal vapors. It can experimentally confirm electric universe theory and further advance our understanding of electric/plasma universe.
This is 100% correct, it could be transformative and add huge value to the research already done.

LMD Waves might be met with skepticism, so a demonstration showing they exist would probably be required (there is already plenty of videos to show). :)
"Considering there is no reactive force even considered in the interaction between mass and space in General Relativity's space-curvature field equations, even though both can likewise act on one another, it is therefore in direct violation of Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."

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Re: Transverse vs Tesla's Longitudinal Electric Waves

Unread post by spark » Mon May 25, 2020 12:20 pm

Circuit diagram to produce LMD waves for anyone interested in replicating: http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/lmd4sdiag.gif

Source and more information: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

LMD Waves Demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8drfI4j9o

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