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PANGAEA BREAKUP
Two days ago I made a new post on the Pangaea Breakup at https://cataclysmicearthhistory.substac ... p-disaster . In it I reviewed Mike Fischer's Shock Dynamics theory website at http://newgeology.us/ . Mike supposes that the Pangaea breakup occurred 300 years after the Great Flood, apparently because the Bible indicates that Peleg was born 300 years after the Flood and, since Peleg meant something like divided by water or rivers, he figured it referred to the Pangaea breakup. But I commented here lately that Peleg, as divided rivers, might have referred to the face of Saturn and/or Venus having been divided by four streams, so Peleg may have referred to the time of the first appearance of the four streams on the Saturn configuration. It's hard to tell if that's a realistic possibility at this point, but eventually I hope to find a smoking gun that can pinpoint when the Saturn configuration was seen, how it evolved and what connection it had to cataclysms that occurred on Earth.
SATURN'S RINGS & VENUS
Next, I provide quotations from three of Cardona's books about Saturn's rings and associations with Venus. I had thought that the rings formed from dust and debris from the cometary tail of Venus, but Cardona said the rings became Saturn's present rings. Since Venus was likely about halfway between Earth and Saturn, probably at least a million miles from each, I realized lately that it's unlikely that the rings would have ended up around Saturn, if they actually came from Venus. So I reread parts of his books to review his evidence and his conclusions. I found that I misunderstood him. However, it seems that other sources did say that the rings came from Venus, so I'll have to review some of those other sources later to see if I was right or wrong about that. Newborn Star was his last book, I think, and he was then only about halfway, or less, through explaining his findings about the evolution of the Saturn System, so there may not be a clear answer to my questions as yet. But from the quotes below, it's fairly clear now that Cardona regarded Saturn itself as the source of the rings. He and others have also discussed the Ouroboros and the Aten which are also said to have been an enclosure around Saturn, like the rings. Cardona said there was a disk around Saturn that looked like an ocean that Saturn floated on, but the disk is different from the rings and the Aten, and I don't know yet if the rings and the Aten were the same. The Aten was only a single ring, but it could have been the same as the 7 rings if the rings were close together. So maybe my next assignment will be to look into the Aten etc.
Below, I'll show: 1. some of Cardona's more informative quotes on the rings; 2. then I'll show the highlights from each quote; 3. then I'll show the quotes on Venus. 4. Then I guess I'll try to summarize my understanding of his info.
1. SOME CARDONA QUOTES ON SATURN'S RINGS
FLARE STAR
_p.114
Let us face it, all of the major so-called sun gods of the ancients were actually personifications of the Saturnian sun. Even Ra, usually presented as the Egyptian sun-god par excellence,4 turns out to have been imbued with characteristics and motions which are not, and can never be, attributable to the present Sun. Thus ____Ra was lauded as having abided within a nest of rings or circles__; of having been of an emerald color shedding rays of emerald hue; of "going up" on the west and "going down" on the east side of the sky; and of moving down at dawn and upstream at night.5
-5 For full details see D. Cardona. God Star, pp.25-26,132,133,134-135,141-145,165,168,178,192,193,214-216,230,231,152,267,268,269,270,433,437,443.
PRIMORDIAL STAR
_p.73
T. Pyxidis in the dim southern constellation Pyxis. Somewhat like SN1987 A, this particular recurring nova has also developed a bevy of rings, in this case all concentric ones.4 It thus seems that rings, which we now know to be common among the gas giant planets of the Solar System, also go hand in glove with stellar flare-ups. ... Goldreich was vindicated when it was discovered that ____the rings of Saturn owe their configuration to a set of "shepherding moons"__ which act exactly as he had theorized for the rings of Uranus.2 ... More importantly, it was also established, very much in keeping with Goldreich's theory, that "in [planetary] rings, gravity can effectively repel material."7 ... a 'huge ring', ... had actually been discovered surrounding the Solar System beyond the orbit of Pluto.
NEWBORN STAR
_p.34
Earth's primordial sun [i.e. ___Saturn, was apparently] surrounded by a nebulous entity, ... a circumstellar disk__ akin to those we now see surrounding stars....
_p.171
The Mesopotamian Saturnian deity known as Ea ... fulfilled "a capacity in which the [cosmic] serpent would again fitly symbolize him."1 ... Ea's very name ... can also be rendered Hea, and thus assimilated to the Semitic hiya (hayya or haiya) which means both "snake" and "life."2 ... And, to be sure, the very uncoiling of proto-Saturn's plasmatic debris seems to have been understood by some of those who witnessed it as the supplier of life to the former immobile being that was proto-Saturn. Not only was "something," that is the uncoiling spiral, moving across the deity's previous static face - and this is what we are mainly driving at - but the orb itself ____was seen to shift. It had become endowed with life.__
_p.172
____Other Egyptian texts do so present the deity as having wandered, even if only within a limited area.__ Thus, for instance, in one of the Coffin Texts, the Egyptian A tum was explicitly made to utter the following words: "I have taken my place that I may rest thus from searching and going to and fro and from circling round and round."1 And so, similarly, where it was described that: "In the beginning there was only darkness and water. The darkness congealed in certain places and it is from this that the Creator was made. He wandered aimlessly above the water and began to think. He became fully conscious of who he was and what he was to do."2
_p.173
It was not just the Saturnian god himself that was seen to wander about in the sky, but also that which he had created. ... The Sathapatha Brahmana [says the all-] waters were becoming heated, a golden egg was produced and this golden egg floated about.5 ... Had the cosmic egg really been ____the shrunken circumstellar disk that encircled the proto-Saturnian orb, it would have appeared to wander around the sky together with its host.__
_p.176
We have striven to show through geological, glaciological, paleontological, and other studies, Earth had been axially aligned with its proto-Satumian brown dwarf sun from its very inception. ... ____Earth was temporarily dislodged from its primordial axial alignment with proto-Saturn [due to] proto-Saturn's flare-up.__ As we have repeatedly noted, and as indicated by brown dwarf flares, this would have been caused by proto-Saturn's bipolar axial discharge, the southern outburst of which would have been unswervingly targeted toward Earth's north rotational pole. It would have been unlikely, to put it mildly, for Earth not to have succumbed to this direct electro/gravitational discharge.
_p.226
the Duat was said to have been divided into regions each of which, among other things, was called qerert, an Egyptian word that means "circle."3 Not only was the Duat distinctly said to have also been the realm of Osiris,4 but ____its circular enclosure was additionally said to have been formed from, or by, the god's own bent body during Creation.__5 As the text on the sarcophagus of Seti I explicitly declares, "it is Osiris himself who forms the encircling border of the Tuat."6 And, to be sure, the depiction on Seti's sarcophagus shows Osiris "bent round like a hoop" to form the enclosure of the Duat. The most convincing evidence concerning the identity of the Duat as the god's encirclement of light, however, comes from the hieroglyphic determination of the name Duat itself which is simply depicted as a star surrounded by a circle.7 ... ____the arrets, or halls, of the Duat were seven in number.__10
_p.230
"In Talmudic tradition," David Rohl tells us, "there are seven heavens (Heb. rakiim) which the deceased must pass through to reach the Throne of Glory (hence the phrase 'seventh heaven', meaning ecstasy)."4 That is exactly what we have already encountered in the Egyptian netherworld known as the Duat. In both cases do we find the underworld in question located in the sky and composed of seven heavenly compartments. In our reconstruction, these seven compartments, normally understood as seven heavens, consisted of ____proto-Saturn's sevenfold spiral that eventually resolved itself into seven separate rings.__
_p.234
Halos were, as they still are, also known as glories. In the Book of Enoch, God's glory is alluded to as a "flaming fire" that was "round about him." Elsewhere we read of "the glory of the Lord that was like a devouring fire." What is more important is that this ____glory, or halo, was said to have consisted of "seven sheaths of fire__, laid one over another."1
_p.238
Back in 1977, David Talbott had envisioned an original single ring surrounding the protoSaturnian orb, and a sevenfold encirclement only toward the end of proto-Saturn's celestial reign.4 And, in 1984, I was just as much in error when I stated that "there was first one ring which later split into three and finally evolved into a sevenfold structure."5 As further research has indicated, it now seems clear that ____proto-Saturn's spiraling debris, which itself was described as having consisted of seven coils, resolved itself into just as many separate rings around ... proto-Saturn ... right from the start.__ Talbott had also stated that the multiple bands in question did "not actually revolve around Saturn." They only appeared to do so from Earth's perspective.1 To an extent, this would have been true since, as we have already indicated, ____proto-Saturn's spiraling emission was ejected out of its Earth-facing southern axial pole.__ The spiral would therefore have originally formed beneath proto-Saturn, but, due to perspective, ancient man would have had no way to determine that it was so. However, as we have already indicated, judging by what we see transpiring in supernovae such as that of RS Ophiuchi, as also through one of Kristian Birkeland's terella experiments, ____proto-Saturn's resulting separate rings were eventually captured around it in equatorial orbit.__ ... As of this writing I can safely state that, while proto-Satum's ring system continued to evolve down through the ages, the planet's ____present rings are definitely the evolutionary result of its primordial encirclement.__
2. SATURN'S RINGS QUOTES HIGHLIGHTS
114 FLARE STAR _Ra [Saturn] was lauded as having abided within a nest of rings or circles.
73 PRIMORDIAL STAR _The rings of Saturn owe their configuration to a set of "shepherding moons".
NEWBORN STAR
34_[Saturn was] surrounded by a nebulous entity, ... a circumstellar disk.
171_[Saturn] was seen to shift. [Observers thought] It had become endowed with life.
172_Other Egyptian texts ... present the deity [Saturn] as having wandered, even if only within a limited area.
173_The [now] shrunken circumstellar disk that encircled [Saturn] ... would have appeared to wander around the sky together with its host [Saturn].
176_[But in reality it was Earth wobbling that made it look like Saturn wandered.] Earth was temporarily dislodged from its primordial axial alignment with proto-Saturn [due to] proto-Saturn's flare-up.
226_Its circular enclosure was additionally said to have been formed from, or by, the god's [Saturn's] own bent body during Creation.
226_The arrets, or halls, of the Duat were seven in number [i.e. the same seven rings of Saturn].
230_Proto-Saturn's sevenfold spiral ... eventually resolved itself into seven separate rings.
234_Glory, or halo, was said to have consisted of "seven sheaths of fire" [same seven rings].
238_Proto-Saturn's spiraling debris, which itself was described as having consisted of seven coils, resolved itself into just as many separate rings around ... proto-Saturn ... right from the start.
238_Proto-Saturn's spiraling emission was ejected out of its Earth-facing southern axial pole.
238_Proto-Saturn's resulting separate rings were eventually captured around it in equatorial orbit.
238_Present rings are definitely the evolutionary result of its primordial encirclement.
3. SOME CARDONA QUOTES ON VENUS FROM NEWBORN STAR
_p.418
BIRTH OF VENUS ... What Cochrane brought to my attention was that the planet Venus was first seen plumb in the centre of the protoSaturnian orb.
_p.420
The Sumerian priestess Enheduanna [said] in her famous hymn, The Exaltation of Inanna [Venus] [that] it was "the brilliant radiance of Suen," that is Sin, that wrapped the "stature" of the goddess.10 What this claims is that it was not the planet Venus that shed the light in question, but that, in fact, the planet was enveloped in the glorious radiance that was emitted by [Sin, i.e. Saturn].
_p.423
Once the blazing light that it had shed began to ebb, this primeval sun [Saturn] changed into a brighter version of itself.
_p.425
The most popular foam goddess that we know of ... is Aphrodite who was described in a ... Homeric Hymn as having been born from the foam of the sea [This was Saturn's circumstellar disk, called a sea, because it looked like a large sea that Saturn was floating on].1 ... It was the visible retraction of proto-Saturn's [plasma column or] axis mundi, that was said to have been responsible for Aphrodite's birth from foam. ... This axial column was [often] understood as the deity's sexual organ,3 while its retraction was seen by some as the self-impregnation of the god or his castration.4 ... The correct tale comes from Hesiod's Theogony where it is told how it was Kronos who castrated his father Ouranos, whose genitals were flung into the sea where they were surrounded with white foam.6 ... Ouranos stood for ... proto-Saturn ... previous to its visible change following its flare-up.... In that respect, his emasculation by Kronos translates as a self castration as it was actually told of the Phrygian Attis,7 the Egyptian Ra,8 the Indic Rudra,9 and Shiva.10 It was from this foam that Aphrodite was said to have been born. In fact, as Macrobius continued to maintain centuries later.1 although quite a few mythologists disagree,2 her name was actually derived from aphros which is the very Greek word for "foam."
_p.429
The goddess Hathor [i.e. Venus, was] praised as the "lady of heaven, mistress of all the gods, the daughter of Re [Saturn]."2 More than that, she is actually described as she "who came forth" from Re's body,3 thus plainly indicating that ... she appeared to have been spat out by ... proto-Saturn....
_p.437
The Pelasgian Eurynome who ordered the serpent Ophion to coil seven times around the cosmogonic egg.11 Eurynome herself was claimed to have risen naked from chaos.12 As others would have it, however, she was the daughter of Ocean,13 which amounts to the same thing, since what is meant is the river Okeanos "whose stream bends back in a circle," 14 very much like the serpent Ouroboros.
_p.440
As in her father's case [i.e. Saturn's], there was more than one serpent, snake, and/or dragon, associated with the goddess [i.e. Venus]. The most prominent of these, however, seems to have been the tail-biting Ouroboros emitted by proto-Saturn that ended up merging with the shrunken circumstellar disk to form the primeval sun's [i.e. Saturn's] encircling rings. In view of the first appearance of the planet Venus plumb in the middle of the proto-Saturnian orb, the spiraling serpentine ring would have been seen by some as having been emitted by the goddess as much as it seemed to have been emitted by the god.
_p.442
It is ... doubtful that a planet [like Venus], under any condition, could ever electrically discharge in the same manner as a stellar planetary nebula while, despite their much smaller mass, brown dwarfs, which is what proto-Saturn originally was, not only can, but actually do. ... It can now be fairly claimed that the planet Venus was first seen by our ancient ancestors plumb in the centre of their primeval sun [Saturn] once the light from this earlier sun's [Saturn's] tremendous flare-up had ebbed enough to allow looking at without being blinded. What that means is that Venus was caught between Earth and proto-Saturn, sharing the same rotational axis with the both of them.... The subdued redness that had cloaked proto-Saturn prior to its electrical discharge [flare] had first been rendered a bright purple due to the
intense ultra-violet light with which the discharge was imbued. In time, however, proto-Saturn's overall hue seems to have turned into a bright orange and it seems to have been this radical transformation that made Venus appear in contrast against proto-Saturn's newly acquired effulgence. Normally one would think that the much smaller Venus would have looked like a black silhouetted disc against the much brighter proto-Saturnian sphere. There are, however, indications that, at its first appearance, Venus exhibited a reddish hue [because of its high heat?]. ... The name Ninsianna, the same as Inanna, one of the Mesopotamian Venus goddesses, actually means "Red Lady of Heaven."1 -- p.443 -- The Assyrians referred to Ishtar [Venus] as Istar-Sad which translates as the Red Ishtar.2 -- p.444 -- In Egypt, Hathor [Venus] was lauded with the words "O red one."3 -- p.446 -- the Dogon of Mali, in West Africa, believe that Venus "was blood red when she was created," even though, as they claim, its color soon began to fade.1
_p.446
Venus did not appear as a dark silhouette against the brightened proto-Sauturnian orb because, at its first appearance, it was itself radiating a subdued reddish glow.
_p.446
In 1994, the Hubble Space Telescope actually showed that various infant stars in the Orion Nebula were really surrounded by such nebulous encirclements, now referred to as circumstellar or protoplanetary disks, otherwise known as proplyds. ... [However] The circumstellar disks appear to be evaporating.
_p.453
According to Anthony Peratt, the pinched plasmoid that evolved into the planet Venus formed at "the same time as all the others [planets],"5 and that would have included Earth. ... Brown dwarf stars, of which it is now accepted the planet Saturn to have once been, are -- p.454 -- actually misnamed since, in essence, they can be as reddish as their red dwarf brethren. Since, at its first appearance, Venus was also said to have been red, it would not have been visible against proto-Saturn's reddish hue. It would only have become visible after proto-Saturn's change into a brighter orb following its flare-up....
_p.464
Exactly how long the fully developed Venus, even if still glowing, had been axially stationed beneath proto-Saturn's southern pole, above Earth's northern one [is unknown]. One thing that can, however, be said is that the goddess of that planet, the newly-apparent daughter of the proto-Saturnian deity, did not take long to bear an offspring of her own, a sacred son who was soon to challenge his own father. [The son was Mars.]
4. SUMMARY RE VENUS & SATURN'S RINGS
-1- Before the flare-up, Saturn was a dim red color and Venus was the same color and in front of Saturn but couldn't be distinguished, so it was "invisible".
-2- Saturn's disk was already there and looked like a foamy ocean that Saturn floated on.
-3- The plasma column was already seen connected to Saturn.
-4- Earth was temporarily unstable and wobbled, which made it appear that Saturn was wandering.
-5- The plasma column retracted, then Saturn flared up and became too bright to look at.
-6- Saturn's brightness subsided, but Saturn remained brighter & larger than before the flare-up, while the disk looked smaller.
-7- Two filaments emitted from the face of Saturn and spiraled outward from opposite sides and eventually formed 7 equatorial rings.
-8- Venus appeared in front of Saturn a dim red color, while Saturn became a bright orange.
-9- Presumably Venus changed color too, so Mars became visible in front of Venus.
Did I leave anything out?