Re: Creationism, Myth and Catastrophism
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:03 pm
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MAIN ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION?
I'd rather not discuss redshift here, except to the extent that it supports any catastrophist model.
The most relevant issues from my list of questions for each Catastrophist model are
D. how and when sedimentary rock strata formed,
E. how and when mountains formed,
F. what major cataclysms occurred in ancient times, and
G. what caused the cataclysms.
For D (strata), I think Baumgardner explained best how the strata formed via a global flood and Fischer explained best why the flood was global, i.e. because there were no high elevations at that time, there were no mountain ranges etc, and there was only one supercontinent and maybe an island.
For E (mountains), I think Fischer explained best that the mountains formed due to a large impact that occurred toward the end of the flood, which broke up the supercontinent and caused rapid continental drift of the crust over the Moho layer. The mountains formed on the near side of the continents by the initial shock and mountains formed of the far side of continents when the velocity of "drift" slowed enough that friction caused strata to fluidize and fold.
Some of you think EDM, or ionic winds, formed a certain percentage of mountains. You're welcome to present your evidence. So far, I consider the evidence for that very weak. I accept that electrical forces may have dominated, or at least have been a major contributor, but not in those ways, but via ionization of the Moho layer and the bottoms of sliding continents, and in volcanism and earthquakes etc.
For F (ancient cataclysms), I list the Saturn flare-up and system breakup, the meteor bombardment, the temporary Earth-orbiting body, the resulting global flood, the supercontinent-splitting asteroid impact, the post-flood ice age, the Younger Dryas impact/s and other lesser impacts, floods etc thereafter. I consider the main events to have happened likely between 4 and 5 thousand years ago.
For G (causes), they're already hinted at, but I guess we can get to those later in detail.
MAIN ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION?
I'd rather not discuss redshift here, except to the extent that it supports any catastrophist model.
The most relevant issues from my list of questions for each Catastrophist model are
D. how and when sedimentary rock strata formed,
E. how and when mountains formed,
F. what major cataclysms occurred in ancient times, and
G. what caused the cataclysms.
For D (strata), I think Baumgardner explained best how the strata formed via a global flood and Fischer explained best why the flood was global, i.e. because there were no high elevations at that time, there were no mountain ranges etc, and there was only one supercontinent and maybe an island.
For E (mountains), I think Fischer explained best that the mountains formed due to a large impact that occurred toward the end of the flood, which broke up the supercontinent and caused rapid continental drift of the crust over the Moho layer. The mountains formed on the near side of the continents by the initial shock and mountains formed of the far side of continents when the velocity of "drift" slowed enough that friction caused strata to fluidize and fold.
Some of you think EDM, or ionic winds, formed a certain percentage of mountains. You're welcome to present your evidence. So far, I consider the evidence for that very weak. I accept that electrical forces may have dominated, or at least have been a major contributor, but not in those ways, but via ionization of the Moho layer and the bottoms of sliding continents, and in volcanism and earthquakes etc.
For F (ancient cataclysms), I list the Saturn flare-up and system breakup, the meteor bombardment, the temporary Earth-orbiting body, the resulting global flood, the supercontinent-splitting asteroid impact, the post-flood ice age, the Younger Dryas impact/s and other lesser impacts, floods etc thereafter. I consider the main events to have happened likely between 4 and 5 thousand years ago.
For G (causes), they're already hinted at, but I guess we can get to those later in detail.