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BeAChooser
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'Dark stars'

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:20 am

This is more evidence that the mainstream is grasping at straws when they speculate about Dark Stars ...

https://phys.org/news/2024-03-dark-stars-reveal.html
In a series of papers in Physical Review D, Liina Chung-Jukko, Professors Malcolm Fairbairn, Eugene Lim, Dr. David Marsh and collaborators have suggested a new approach to locate this 'wonder particle' that could explain both dark energy and dark matter.

Professor Malcolm Fairbairn explains, "Axions are one of the prime candidates for dark matter. We discovered that they have the capacity to heat the universe just like supernovae and ordinary stars after coming together in dense clumps. Armed with that knowledge, we know with far more certainty where to point our instruments out in the field to find them."

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These axion stars can become unstable past a certain mass threshold, exploding into electromagnetic radiation and photons—particles of light, as shown in more detail by Liina Chung-Jukko. The scientists suggest that these explosions have the potential to have heated the intergalactic gas that exists between galaxies in the time separating the big bang and the formation of the first stars, 50–500 million years after the beginning of the universe.

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By computing the total number of axion stars in the universe, and by extension their latent explosive potential on intergalactic gas, the team have also surmised the size of the signal axion stars would give out in the CMB. This would allow 21cm measurements to categorize what is and what isn't originating from axions accurately, aiding in the search.

The work from King's joins a growing chorus among the scientific community searching for the axion as the prime contender for dark matter, David Marsh said, "21cm measurement is generally seen as the future of cosmology, and the part that it plays in the search for the axion is a large reason for that. There is currently a huge proliferation of axion searches being built, including projects like Dark Matter Radio. It is a very, very exciting time to be an astrophysicist right now."
More important ... a very lucrative time.

But remember when the Mainstream declared

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecarte ... 98d05c6ca6
First Ever ‘Dark Stars’ Spotted By Webb Telescope, Say Scientists
They were referring to three objects JADES-GS-z13-0, JADES-GS-z12-0 and JADES-GS-z11-0.

They'd originally been identified as galaxies but then the media was filled with speculation they were dark stars.

Well … it’s been a year. Which is it? Galaxies or Dark Stars?

In November 2023, Space.com published an article (https://www.space.com/james-webb-space- ... t-galaxies ) saying “The most distant confirmed galaxy is JADES-GS-z13-0, which was also discovered by the JWST in 2022 and has a redshift of 13.2.)”. So I thought they'd decided they were galaxies after all. But then in the same article they also referred to them as “candidate dark stars”. So maybe the verdict was still open.

But here are all the more recent articles and papers I could find (all published within the last month) that mention any of the JADES-GS-Z objects …

https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/astron ... se-galaxy/

https://universemagazine.com/en/scienti ... -universe/

https://spacerium.wordpress.com/2024/03 ... mysteries/

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3 ... 357/ad1ee4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-BB1jrlyg

https://www.livescience.com/space/cosmo ... -cosmology

https://www.space.com/what-is-the-most- ... we-can-see

https://www.sciencealert.com/mysterious ... -was-young

Every single one calls them galaxies, so I suspect the claim they are “dark stars” is dead on arrival.

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Re: 'Dark stars'

Unread post by nick c » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

The term "dark star" has been around for centuries, without it having any insinuation of being composed of anything other than ordinary matter.

John Michell, in 1783, theorized the existence of stars so massive that light could not escape them, and he called them "dark stars". This of course was a predecessor of Black Holes. However, there was never any consideration by Michell of these objects being composed anything other than ordinary matter. In his theory "dark stars" were not composed of Dark Matter.
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnew ... istory.cfm

The term "dark star" has also been used to denote any small stellar object made of ordinary matter, of which we cannot otherwise detect the existence. For example a bright star that has a faint companion, that is only detectable by a wobble in the path of the bright primary star. No dark matter is needed to explain this type of dark star. for example: from dictionary.com
dictionary.com wrote:dark star. noun. an invisible star known to exist only from observation of its radio, infrared, or other spectrum or of its gravitational effect, such as an invisible component of a binary or multiple star.
Even Velikovsky used the term in p.373 of Worlds In Collision (1950) to describe a gas giant planet, like Jupiter or Saturn, traveling alone in interstellar space.

So now we have seen the meaning of the term "dark star" usurped into a description of dark matter forming into stars. I have no doubt that they will soon be posting images of alleged dark matter stars or dark matter galaxies; even though these fictitious objects would by definition have to be invisible.

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Re: 'Dark stars'

Unread post by Roshi » Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:45 pm

There can't be any dark stars, dark matter is not affected by gravity, that's why it stays like a "halo" around all galaxies. It just produces gravity as needed but it's not influenced by it.

https://cerncourier.com/a/the-milky-way ... reappears/

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Re: 'Dark stars'

Unread post by BeAChooser » Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:19 pm

Roshi wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:45 pm dark matter is not affected by gravity
Not sure where you get this idea. And from your post, I gather you do believe in dark matter.

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Re: 'Dark stars'

Unread post by Maol » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:47 am

BeAChooser wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:19 pm
Roshi wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:45 pm dark matter is not affected by gravity
Not sure where you get this idea. And from your post, I gather you do believe in dark matter.
Roshi wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:45 pm There can't be any dark stars, dark matter is not affected by gravity, that's why it stays like a "halo" around all galaxies.

It just produces gravity as needed but it's not influenced by it.

https://cerncourier.com/a/the-milky-way ... reappears/
Sounds like sarcasm :lol:

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Re: 'Dark stars'

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:36 am

Maol wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:47 am Sounds like sarcasm :lol:
Ah. My bad, I guess. Apologies, if it was.

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