Milky Way Plasmoid mass

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Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 am

Does the Milky Way's plasmoid have the calculated mass of the supposed black hole that its purported to be? Or is it a variable mass, indeterminate due to the transmutation of elements within the plasmoid? Does that even make sense?

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Earl Sinclair » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:52 pm

If the EU analysis is correct, current orthodox theory is completely wrong about red-shift - and therefore, completely wrong about distances, movement direction, etc..

If all those are wrong, what makes you think that they understand mass and magnetism?


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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:48 pm

Transmutation wouldn't change mass, just elemental composition. If N2 transmutes into CO (as apparently happens if the air is heated to several hundred degrees and some of it enters a human or animal, according to Louis Kervran), the CO and N2 have practically the same mass. "The molar mass[] of N2 is 28.0134 g/mol, for CO it's 28.0101 g/mol (WolframAlpha computation)."

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by paladin17 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:01 pm

Poppa Tom wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 am Does the Milky Way's plasmoid have the calculated mass of the supposed black hole that its purported to be?
Assumed to be around 4 million solar masses.

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:26 pm

paladin17 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:01 pm
Poppa Tom wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 am Does the Milky Way's plasmoid have the calculated mass of the supposed black hole that its purported to be?
Assumed to be around 4 million solar masses.

Just so I know, plasmoid has the gravity equivalence of 4 million solar masses.
I wondered due to the effect of the incredible plasma feeding, multiplied by how many hundred thousand times equals four million masses?
Just with my rudimentary 2 celled brain power, it would appear to be more than that..., just off the top of my head?
Which is empty...occasionally :D

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:28 pm

Earl Sinclair wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:52 pm If the EU analysis is correct, current orthodox theory is completely wrong about red-shift - and therefore, completely wrong about distances, movement direction, etc..

If all those are wrong, what makes you think that they understand mass and magnetism?


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:D trudat. THAT is exactly what I am postulating
My guess is by million upon millions of solar mass equivalence

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Sat May 29, 2021 1:15 am

:D
Earl Sinclair wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:52 pm If the EU analysis is correct, current orthodox theory is completely wrong about red-shift - and therefore, completely wrong about distances, movement direction, etc..

If all those are wrong, what makes you think that they understand mass and magnetism?


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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Sat May 29, 2021 1:17 am

Mahalo

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:20 pm

True enough but not looking for 'exact' numbers.

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:06 am

Poppa Tom wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:20 pm True enough but not looking for 'exact' numbers.
One poster said the black hole is 4 millions suns, but this source clarified that, saying …

https://www.universetoday.com/21875/cen ... milky-way/

… states …
The Milky Way’s center is 26,000 light-years from Earth, and Sgr A* is measured to be about 14 million miles across. This means that the black hole itself would easily fit inside the orbit of Mercury. How much mass is crammed inside this relatively small space? The lower mass limit of the black hole itself is calculated to be more than 40,000 Suns. However, the radio-emitting part of Sgr A* is a bit bigger, about the size of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun (93 million miles), and weighs much, much more – 4 billion Suns.
This source ...

https://phys.org/news/2014-12-facts-milky.html

... corroborates that, saying ...
The center of our galaxy is called Sagittarius A*, a massive source of radio waves that is believed to be a black hole with the mass of 40,000 Suns and measures 22,5 million kilometers (14 million mi) across – about the size of Mercury's orbit. But this is just the black hole itself.

All of the mass trying to get into the black hole – called the accretion disk – forms a disk that has a mass of 4 million Suns, and would fit inside the orbit of the Earth.
So if what they're calling a black hole is only about 40,000 suns in mass, that's well within the possibility of a plasmoid as envisioned by plasma cosmologists. And the rest is the mass of material spiraling in along filaments like plasma cosmologists theorize carrying energy towards the plasmoid and growing ever denser the closer the filaments get to the plasmoid. In plasma cosmology, the same thing is theorized to happen on a smaller scale during the formation of stars. Note that when too much plasma and energy are carried into the plasmoid early in the development of the galaxy or star when there's so much plasma around, the plasmoid will produce jets to carry away the excess. These are the quasars and, on the scale of stars, Herbig Haro object jets. This is the way both developing galaxies and stars shed the excess angular momentum that would otherwise prevent formation.

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Cargo » Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:37 am

Mass is not how a Plasmoid can be measured. And neither can our Sun be a Mass Ruler for anything we see millions or trillions of miles away.

And Blank Holes don't exist. Obviously.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes
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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:34 pm

Cargo wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:37 am Mass is not how a Plasmoid can be measured.
We too must explain the motions of what is seen.

And maybe that can be done because plasmoids and the stuff going into/around them have mass.

And Newton's/Kepler's laws presumably still work with on that mass and the stuff going into them.

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:29 pm

Thanks everyone. Crazy stuff. I concur, weight is NOT how use measure a toroid........then how?

The theoretical 'black hole' is measured in solar masses
The real plasma toroid is measured in......?

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:29 pm

Thanks everyone. Crazy stuff. I concur, weight is NOT how use measure a toroid........then how?

The theoretical 'black hole' is measured in solar masses
The real plasma toroid is measured in......?
I do like the amperes thing.

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Re: Milky Way Plasmoid mass

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:46 am

:lol:

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