Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

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Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by nick c » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:21 pm

Scientists also noted that this past summer, on July 19, the shortest day ever was recorded—it was 1.4602 milliseconds shorter than the standard.
The Earth has been spinning faster lately

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Unread post by paladin17 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:54 pm

Quick thoughts:
1) It would be cool to see an actual paper or raw data (I've worked with LOD database about a year ago, probably would have to revisit it in the near future) and not a vague press release;
2) It would be cool to see if there were any measurements of G constant and/or neutron lifetime made in 2020 to check if the previous vague correlations would hold;
3) Under the assumption that it's the Sun and its motion around the barycenter ("how?" and "why?" are open questions) it may fit with Jupiter/Saturn conjunction - or not: to be checked;
4) A much weirder hypothesis would include the atomic clocks running slower rather than the Earth spinning faster;
5) There may be rather trivial explanations (e.g. very low solar output in 2019-2020 which had shrunk the atmosphere and cooled the planet somewhat overall; the "shortest day" being close to aphelion reinforces the idea);
6) There's little hope (given the needed precision), but maybe we have similar data for other planets;
7) Under the assumption of an external influence any other anomalies from the heliosphere (IBEX ENA flux comes to mind first) are to be sought for.

Fascinating stuff. Some new things to check.

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Re: Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by crawler » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:03 pm

paladin17 wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:54 pm 4) A much weirder hypothesis would include the atomic clocks running slower rather than the Earth spinning faster;
I feel sure that the background aetherwind blowing at 500 km/s south to north throo Earth changes direction slowly, due to the changing location in the Milky Way, in addition to the regular daily & annual changes in the wind.
This change in direction etc will affect the ticking of atomic clocks (& every other kind of clock), a steady slow overall change.

To make things more complicated -- i feel sure that it will be found that atomic clocks are sensitive to direction.
Using 2 clocks & turning one around horizontally would show this.
Turning vertically would probly give a greater effect, depending on where the lab is on Earth, horizontally would be greater near the Equator.
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Re: Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by D_Archer » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:10 pm

I guess this is a measurement issue, it may be physically possible to speed up in certain circumstances, maybe increased solar activity or some charge process, but i doubt it....

But, in all, the rotation rate of the Earth is slowing down! * So, this is mostly misinformation from phys.org or worse propaganda, since they tie it to the fake global warming... i would never trust mainstream science sites..

Also, there is no paper? The linked article says 'scientists say' and the original telegraph article is blocked...

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* the Earth is also cooling down, the mantle is slowly thickening, in, billions of years it will harden and the earth will shrink, it will also lose its atmosphere...etc.
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Unread post by paladin17 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:34 pm

D_Archer wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:10 pm * the Earth is also cooling down, the mantle is slowly thickening, in, billions of years it will harden and the earth will shrink, it will also lose its atmosphere...etc.
Just FYI: crystallization is an exothermic process. If the Earth was truly "hardening", it would become hotter.

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Unread post by D_Archer » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:42 am

paladin17 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:34 pm
D_Archer wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:10 pm * the Earth is also cooling down, the mantle is slowly thickening, in, billions of years it will harden and the earth will shrink, it will also lose its atmosphere...etc.
Just FYI: crystallization is an exothermic process. If the Earth was truly "hardening", it would become hotter.
I know, that is why it said that solid mantle forms (layers) and then peels off again, remelting. But, in all, the mantle is growing and hardening. The Earth can only cool because of entropy (2nd law), so we have rotation rate slowing down and cooling at the same time, very logical.

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Unread post by toni » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:58 am

We can look into the rotation of the planet in 2 ways:
First by observation. The planet closest to our sun has 1400 hours a day. The one furthest from the sun is 16 earth hours a day. The reason for this is that the further the planet is from its mother star, it slowly increases rotation around the axis and decreases rotation around the star.
Second, we must know how electricity works. Planets grow to a perfect sphere and then disintegration starts. Poles start to flatten and the equatorial area starts to expand. In the same time, activity in the equatorial area increases and we know this by the moons around the planets which are further away. A good example would be Jupiter and its size. Most likely Jupiter didn't grow to this size but expanded with the pressures from inside. When we see the difference in the hours of the first and last planets, we don't have to be surprised that the earth's rotation is going to change. When we know how gravitation and radiation cycles work, then it is easy to see nature's wonders.

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Re: Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by D_Archer » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:44 am

toni wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:58 am We can look into the rotation of the planet in 2 ways:
First by observation. The planet closest to our sun has 1400 hours a day. The one furthest from the sun is 16 earth hours a day. The reason for this is that the further the planet is from its mother star, it slowly increases rotation around the axis and decreases rotation around the star.
Second, we must know how electricity works. Planets grow to a perfect sphere and then disintegration starts. Poles start to flatten and the equatorial area starts to expand. In the same time, activity in the equatorial area increases and we know this by the moons around the planets which are further away. A good example would be Jupiter and its size. Most likely Jupiter didn't grow to this size but expanded with the pressures from inside. When we see the difference in the hours of the first and last planets, we don't have to be surprised that the earth's rotation is going to change. When we know how gravitation and radiation cycles work, then it is easy to see nature's wonders.

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That is all fine, but those are active/dynamic variables, there can always be slight changes up and down, in rotation, in cooling/warming.

But you can not say the rotation of the earth is speeding up when it is simply not true overall (time).

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Unread post by crawler » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:18 pm

D_Archer wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:44 am
toni wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:58 am We can look into the rotation of the planet in 2 ways:
First by observation. The planet closest to our sun has 1400 hours a day. The one furthest from the sun is 16 earth hours a day. The reason for this is that the further the planet is from its mother star, it slowly increases rotation around the axis and decreases rotation around the star.
Second, we must know how electricity works. Planets grow to a perfect sphere and then disintegration starts. Poles start to flatten and the equatorial area starts to expand. In the same time, activity in the equatorial area increases and we know this by the moons around the planets which are further away. A good example would be Jupiter and its size. Most likely Jupiter didn't grow to this size but expanded with the pressures from inside. When we see the difference in the hours of the first and last planets, we don't have to be surprised that the earth's rotation is going to change. When we know how gravitation and radiation cycles work, then it is easy to see nature's wonders.
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That is all fine, but those are active/dynamic variables, there can always be slight changes up and down, in rotation, in cooling/warming.
But you can not say the rotation of the earth is speeding up when it is simply not true overall (time).
Regards,Daniel
There is no such thing as time, except for the present instant, which is universal.
All we have is ticking, ie the ticking of processes, including clocks & orbits & chemistry & biology etc.

(A) Therefore time is ticking, & ticking must be related to a nominated process, every process being different ticking wise.

And, that one process will depend on location etc, ie the ticking will be different in different locations no matter how perfect the instrument.

And at any one location the ticking rate will change during time (eg during a day, year etc).

If we know what affects ticking we can use any clock to give a good measure of uniform time. But we dont know. Hence it makes it difficult to say which clock is more correct, or at least exactly how correct.

The key is that we need a good measure of uniform time, ie raw time corrected for uncontrollable variables.

This will require knowledge of (1) aether (& in particular aetherwind & the acceleration of the wind), (2) photaenos (a part of every photon)(which slow light & electric forces near mass), (3) the centrifuging of aether (adding to aetherwind, & adding to the acceleration of the wind), (4) relativistic effects (affecting our understanding & measure of true ticking & apparent ticking etc), (5) lots of other stuff.

If we do a perfect job then we can ignore requirement (A).
STR is krapp -- & GTR is mostly krapp.
The present Einsteinian Dark Age of science will soon end – for the times they are a-changin'.
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Re: Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by toni » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:28 am

Daniel,
We have 1400 hours difference from the first and the last planet and to say that time on earth will not change, is not very realistic. We could add to the story that life on earth starts when earth moves around 70M miles from the sun and slowly fades around 104M miles. Change definitely comes and our task is to learn as much as we can about nature's processes. If you think that it is not so, please describe exactly the process which determines your point of view.

Crawler This is a very simple question and by now we should know exactly how to answer it in a simple way. Over here we are dealing with the physical world and we have to apply the knowledge that we obtained through observation. If we cannot answer something simple, how can we talk about 0 point, aether, double-layer, left and right turns and so on? Now we could answer a lot of questions in a simple way, otherwise we complicate things even more.
There is a void that at any point, when electricity creates matter, space is created. Matter has a frequency. Frequency creates time. Is this enough for you to make any solid connection or understanding?
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Re: Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by D_Archer » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:40 am

toni wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:28 am Daniel,
We have 1400 hours difference from the first and the last planet and to say that time on earth will not change, is not very realistic. We could add to the story that life on earth starts when earth moves around 70M miles from the sun and slowly fades around 104M miles. Change definitely comes and our task is to learn as much as we can about nature's processes. If you think that it is not so, please describe exactly the process which determines your point of view.
? time is not a thing and can not change by definition. I also never said what you say i said. Yes, we should study change, like how the earth changes, is a living thing with a life cycle and dies. See my paper on a new natural law i discovered > https://vixra.org/pdf/2011.0128v1.pdf
Crawler This is a very simple question and by now we should know exactly how to answer it in a simple way. Over here we are dealing with the physical world and we have to apply the knowledge that we obtained through observation. If we cannot answer something simple, how can we talk about 0 point, aether, double-layer, left and right turns and so on? Now we could answer a lot of questions in a simple way, otherwise we complicate things even more.
There is a void that at any point, when electricity creates matter, space is created. Matter has a frequency. Frequency creates time. Is this enough for you to make any solid connection or understanding?
Best Regards,
Toni
Yes, please keep it simple and not talk about nullities.

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Unread post by crawler » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:48 pm

toni wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:28 am Crawler This is a very simple question and by now we should know exactly how to answer it in a simple way. Over here we are dealing with the physical world and we have to apply the knowledge that we obtained through observation. If we cannot answer something simple, how can we talk about 0 point, aether, double-layer, left and right turns and so on? Now we could answer a lot of questions in a simple way, otherwise we complicate things even more.
There is a void that at any point, when electricity creates matter, space is created. Matter has a frequency. Frequency creates time. Is this enough for you to make any solid connection or understanding? Best Regards, Toni
The world that we see & feel consists only of processes. Every process has a frequency, a ticking. Ticking is time.

We have almost zero knowledge of what things affect the tickings of atomic clocks.

In my earlier ramblings i didnt even touch on aspects of true tickings (absolute tickings), apparent tickings (perceived tickings), observed tickings (measured tickings).

I did introduce the novel concept that almost all tickings (even atomic tickings) must be affected by orientation (ie angle)(vertical & horizontal)(i called it direction). Orientation of atomic etc clocks will i feel sure not be a nullity.
STR is krapp -- & GTR is mostly krapp.
The present Einsteinian Dark Age of science will soon end – for the times they are a-changin'.
The aether will return – it never left.

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Unread post by crawler » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:41 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPIDOt0NYFM

Anton mentions that nowadays we have a very accurate measure of where things are etc.
No we dont.
What we have is accurate measures of where we think things are.
And if everyone's measures agree then that makes us very confident.
But in reality all of our measures are not as accurate as we think.
In reality lots of things affect ticking, like i said earlier.
But in general they affect everyone's tickings, by about the same amounts.

So, there is a difference tween where things are, & where we think they are, & where we agree that they are, etc.
STR is krapp -- & GTR is mostly krapp.
The present Einsteinian Dark Age of science will soon end – for the times they are a-changin'.
The aether will return – it never left.

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Earth's Rotation Speeding Up

Unread post by nick c » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:58 am

An interesting paper from 1976:
"Nonuniformities in the earth's rotation from astronomical observations during 1970.1-1974.5"
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//ful ... 5.000.html
The coincidence of solar flares with a change in the sign of the acceleration of the slow fluctuations in the earth's rotational velocity, as occurred in 1972, does warrant attention. But one should recognize that in 1972 not only was there a change in the long-term regime of the earth's rotation, but the 2 yr cycle of the amplitude of the January maximum was also violated, and this departure took place about a half a year before the flares on the sun.

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Unread post by toni » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:49 pm

In my opinion, the first knowledge of nature's processes or electricity must be understood or we cannot have a measuring stick. Nature is very simple. This is why MSM is putting so much nonsense all over to cover that fact. With only reading, obtaining knowledge is not possible. Working with electricity one can go much further and grasp a basis that could be set as a good foundation for the law that governs motion. I tried to point out some of your errors but I did not go too far. I wish you good luck.

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