One Step Closer …

Plasma and electricity in space. Failure of gravity-only cosmology. Exposing the myths of dark matter, dark energy, black holes, neutron stars, and other mathematical constructs. The electric model of stars. Predictions and confirmations of the electric comet.
BeAChooser
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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:48 am

Higgsy wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:45 am You have ~52 links in this thread alone (might have miscounted by one or two) and not a single one is to a scientific paper. They are all to news reports. Every one.
Thanks for demonstrating once again how poor your grasp of logic is, Higgsy.

First and foremost, why would you expect scientific paper citations in this thread? That’s silly. The average American taxpayer does not read scientific papers. They read articles put out by the numerous mainstream publications that report science news to them. That’s how mainstream science actually communicates to the public … through the type of sources I cited, not through bland, confusing, equation and math-laden, complicated, peer reviewed scientific papers. It is the sources I cite in this thread that are being used to convince the public to keep the money flowing to the tune of BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars. Without these sources, there is no way that scientists could convince the public to continue supporting such massive, unproductive largess. So the language used in those publications is indeed what really matters here, not the language in the scientific papers. It’s language the scientists tacitly, if not overtly (through QUOTES they sometimes supply those publications) support.

Furthermore, let’s just examine my first link in this thread. It’s a “one step closer” example. The article cited is from PHYS.ORG. Aren’t they a credible source in your view? Or are you just dismissing them, and any source like them, from any further use as a credible source? For the record. Do you only read scientific papers for your *vast understanding* of science? Next, note that the*author* of the article is the University Of Chicago. Indeed, here’s the same article on the website of that university: https://news.uchicago.edu/story/twelve- ... d-galaxies . The “Physical Sciences” portion of the university website also has the article: https://physicalsciences.uchicago.edu/news/year/2022/ . Do you find that particular institution of higher learning unreliable when it reports the work of it’s professors? Do you dismiss all articles put out by universities to inform the public? Do you only read raw scientific papers to gain your understanding of science, Higgsy?

Finally, note that the article quotes Professor Alex Ji, one of (dozens?) of co-authors of the study that was being reported. Wouldn’t it be common practice to let the professor see the article where she's specifically quoted before publication, just to ensure it’s accuracy? If she did, why didn’t she complain? Can you find any source where Professor Ji, or any of the other authors, complained to the University of Chicago, Phys.org or any of the other score of mainstream sources that carried this article saying that they were misrepresented by using the phrase “one step closer” at the very beginning of the article? If not, then what is the basis of your complaint, Higgsy? And isn’t it possible that the reason the University of Chicago used that phrase is that Professor Ji or one of her co-authors used the phrase in passing when being interviewed about the study?

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:43 am

Higgsy wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:45 am
BeAChooser wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:09 pm ...he finds it necessary to lie about me. Not a single link to an actual scientific paper in any of my threads? Come on, Higgsy. You know that's not true.
You have ~52 links in this thread alone (might have miscounted by one or two) and not a single one is to a scientific paper. They are all to news reports. Every one.
Care to explain why your dark matter theories always *fail* to correctly predict what we observe Higgsy?

https://phys.org/news/2022-02-disk-galaxies-theory.html

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:00 am

I just noticed that in my last post I mistakenly mixed up the lead author of the article, University of Toronto Professor Ting Li (a woman), with the first co-author listed in the study paper, Professor Alex Ji (a man) of the University of Chicago. Both are mentioned in the article. But this doesn’t change any of my conclusions or questions. Surely since both were mentioned, both would have been given a chance to review the article before publication … and apparently neither complained about the “one step closer” statement. So again, why should Higgsy?

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by ForumModerator » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:07 pm

Higgsy wrote:
ForumModerator wrote:If you are truly interested in learning more about the Electric Universe than you should be considering the following:

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
https://www.holoscience.com/wp/
The Electric Sky by Donald E. Scott
That's hilarious.
Higgsy,
Thanks for the chuckle!

Is it that reading the linked material is not worth your valuable time?
or,
that you have read it and think it's ridiculous?


If it is the former.....then why are you here?
If it is the latter......then why are you here?

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by JHL » Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:47 pm

Higgsy wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:45 amYou have ~52 links in this thread alone (might have miscounted by one or two) and not a single one is to a scientific paper. They are all to news reports. Every one.
"Comrade, you have ~52 links and not a single one is to an Official Source. They are all to news reports from over the wall. Every one, Comrade."

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:42 pm

JHL wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:47 pm "Comrade, you have ~52 links and not a single one is to an Official Source. They are all to news reports from over the wall. Every one, Comrade."
Good one. Seems to be a lot of that going around these days.

Why most people haven't heard that you-know-who is suddenly in BIG trouble. The mainstream hasn't told the. :lol:

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:34 am

Here’s another “could be” …

https://phys.org/news/2022-02-theory-ba ... rdial.html
Theory shows baryogenesis requirement could drive the contribution of primordial black holes to dark matter

… snip …

Studies suggest that the total amount of dark matter in the universe today is approximately five times larger than that of ordinary matter, also referred to as baryons. The reasons for this significantly higher proportion of dark matter, however, remain unclear. This unanswered research question is known as the cosmic coincidence problem.

Yi-Peng Wu, Elena Pinetti and Joseph Silk, three researchers at Laboratoire de Physique Théorique et Hautes Energies (LPTHE), UMR 7589 CNRS and Sorbonne Université, the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, and Institut d'Astrophysique de Paris (IAP, UMR 7095 CNRS), have recently carried out a study aimed at providing a possible solution to the cosmic coincidence problem. In their paper, published in Physical Review Letters, they suggest that the higher proportion of dark matter could be linked to baryogenesis, a physical process leading to baryonic asymmetry that is hypothesized to have occurred in the early universe.
It’s another study with, as far as I see, NO practical value whatsoever … other than paying the authors’ mortgages.

The article does mention one space-based telescope I haven’t heard of before … DECIGO. It turns out to be the Japanese … a whole bunch of Japanese (https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.13545 ) … wanting to get in on the gravitational wave observatory scam. Expected cost? Well, to show how carefully they guard such information, I couldn’t find out. And did I mention the money the Chinese are throwing at such space based devices … for example, the TianQin and Taiji observatories? I did find an indication that the cost of TianQin is in the hundreds of millions. Space "could be" the next frontier for gravitational wave *scientists* and a black hole for your money.

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:52 pm

https://interestingengineering.com/one- ... ark-matter
Good news, universe! Scientists are one step closer to finally understanding dark matter
And what do they mean by that?

They mean they failed AGAIN to find dark matter. Here:
Surprisingly, a new study has ruled out one such popular explanation of the dark matter, called the axion-like particle (ALP) cogenesis model. The exclusion of ALP means that scientists will now have to consider fewer models while conducting dark matter research. This would increase both the speed and accuracy of their research works and bring us one step closer to understanding the most strange phenomenon of the universe. 
LOL!

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by jackokie » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:58 pm

"Phenomenon". Cue Inigo Montoya quote.
Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once.

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:16 pm

How many times has the mainstream media asked this question?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... ar-AAZkeie
Are scientists about to unveil the mysteries of dark matter?
Answer: The same number of times scientists have failed to unveil the mysteries of dark matter.

Just saying ...

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:01 pm

Hey … another success!

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireS ... s-86398610
Huge underground search for mysterious dark matter begins

LEAD, South Dakota -- In a former gold mine a mile underground, inside a titanium tank filled with a rare liquified gas, scientists have begun the search for what so far has been unfindable: dark matter.

… snip …

Scientists announced Thursday that the five-year, $60 million search finally got underway two months ago after a delay caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. So far the device has found ... nothing. At least no dark matter.

That’s OK, they say. The equipment appears to be working to filter out most of the background radiation they hoped to block. “To search for this very rare type of interaction, job number one is to first get rid of all of the ordinary sources of radiation, which would overwhelm the experiment,” said University of Maryland physicist Carter Hall.

And if all their calculations and theories are right, they figure they’ll see only a couple fleeting signs of dark matter a year. The team of 250 scientists estimates they’ll get 20 times more data over the next couple of years.

By the time the experiment finishes, the chance of finding dark matter with this device is “probably less than 50% but more than 10%,” said Hugh Lippincott, a physicist and spokesman for the experiment in a Thursday news conference.

… snip …

These scientists tried a similar, smaller experiment here years ago. After coming up empty, they figured they had to go much bigger. Another large-scale experiment is underway in Italy run by a rival team, but no results have been announced so far.

The scientists are trying to understand why the universe is not what it seems.
Heck … I could tell them that. Anyone of us could.

P.S. When they fail to find anything this time, what will be their response? Prediction? GO BIGGER AGAIN!

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:15 pm

Another mainstream article about that South Dakota experiment …

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/dar ... nt-physics
A massive new effort to detect the elusive substance has reported its first results. Following a time-honored tradition of dark matter hunters, the experiment, called LZ, didn’t find dark matter. But it has done that better than ever before, physicists report July 7 in a virtual webinar and a paper posted on LZ’s website.
That’s right folks. It’s a success! Why they’ve found nothing “better than ever before”!
Using only about 60 days’ worth of data, LZ has already surpassed earlier efforts to pin down WIMPs (SN: 5/28/18). “It’s really impressive what they’ve been able to pull off; it’s a technological marvel,” says theoretical physicist Dan Hooper of Fermilab in Batavia, Ill, who was not involved with the study.
Yes, “It’s a technological marvel” … that’s found nothing.
Now that the detector has proven its potential, says LZ physicist Kevin Lesko of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, “we’re excited about what we’re going to see.” 
Yes, the detector has proven its potential … to find nothing?

And best of all … they’ve 5 years or more of guaranteed employment now! ... even if they find nothing.

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:31 pm

“'World's Most Sensitive Dark Matter Detector' Delivers First Promising Results”

Promising because they found nothing.
“The world's most sensitive dark matter detector just delivered 'significant results’”

Significant because they found NOTHING.

You just have to laugh at the pretzel logic.

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:10 pm

You want to know how dishonest mainstream particle and astrophysicists are these days?

Look no further than this quote regarding the South Dakota Dark Matter detector …

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... atter.html
The team believes the detector will return 20 times more data over the duration of the experiment and the chance of finding dark matter with LZ is 'probably less than 50 percent but more than 10 percent,' said Hugh Lippincott, a physicist and spokesman for the experiment in a Thursday news conference, as reported by CBS News.
There is no possible way they could have come up with those percentages. NONE. They are there only to justify them spending another $60 million dollars OF YOUR MONEY on this program … whose only real purpose is to keep themselves lucratively employed. And if you disagree with me … then by all means, show me how they came up with those 50% and 10% numbers. Bet you can’t do it.

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Re: One Step Closer …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:40 pm

https://scitechdaily.com/dark-matter-ex ... -universe/
Dark Matter Experiment Set To Help Solve the Biggest Mystery in the Universe

Although we may still be in the dark about what dark matter is, we now have a better idea about what it isn’t.

Australia’s first major contribution to dark matter detection — the ORGAN Experiment — is now online and searching for dark matter, bringing us a step closer to solving one of the biggest mysteries of the universe.
LOL! They never stop with the "ONE STEP CLOSER" garbage, do they?

And they never fail TO FAIL. That's right, they're boasting about another Dark Matter search FAILURE.
After four years of research and development, ORGAN has completed its first substantive search for axions — a promising candidate for dark matter. ... snip ... The first results from ORGAN rule out a popular theory about the nature of dark matter, narrowing the possibilities for what it could be ... snip ... “Although we didn’t find any, it’s very exciting because it’s Australia’s first large-scale, long-term direct dark matter detection experiment. “It’s also given us useful information about what axion dark matter isn’t, which tells future axion searches across the globe where not to look.”
And of course ...
Aaron said the team hopes to begin their next search later this year.

“We’re currently making technical improvements to our detector to achieve greater sensitivity and enable wider-ranging searches,” he said.
They never stop with the *next improvement* will succeed, garbage.

And ...
This research was supported by funding from the Australian Research Council and the Australian Research Council Centres of Excellence for Engineered Quantum Systems and Dark Matter Particle Physics.
NO ... the research is supported by people like you and me. That's where they really get the money.

Never forget that ... because THEY SURELY DO. :x

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