Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

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Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:40 am

https://interestingengineering.com/did- ... eakthrough
Have we finally detected dark energy? The implications could be enormous, Dr. Sunny Vagnozzi, lead author on a University of Cambridge paper on the subject, tells us over email. "Directly detecting dark energy, and in particular its non-gravitational interactions, would have a tremendous impact," he explains. 

In a paper published on Sept. 15 in the journal Physical Review D, Vagnozzi and a team of University of Cambridge researchers detail how unexplained results from an experiment called XENON1T may have been caused by dark energy rather than the dark matter the experiment was supposed to detect. The new paper constitutes a large step towards the first direct detection of dark energy, the researchers say.
Right. Roll eyes. Just look at the contradiction in this article.
the University of Cambridge researchers developed a physical model designed to calculate whether the signal may have been produced by dark energy — the hypothetical force thought to be responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe — instead of dark matter. Thanks to that model, the researchers believe the signal did indeed originate from dark energy particles produced in a region of the Sun known for its strong magnetic fields.
So is dark energy now a particle and not a “force”? If you look on Nasa’s website (https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/f ... ark-energy ), they obviously don't think so. They ask the question, “What is Dark Energy?” then say it might be “a property of space”, “virtual” particles (which they then dismiss as an alternative), some sort of “dynamical energy fluid or field”, or a new theory of gravity. Other sites never even mention particles in their attempt to describe it either. I think these people are just grasping at straws to explain their experiment's failure to find dark matter.

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by Harry » Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:09 am

To understand Dark matter or Dark Energy.
One needs to understand the properties of dense matter in line of Condensates and transients of such matter.
Chiral Supersymmetry of dense matter explains the property of Dipolar vector Fields that we can observe out there and beyond.
You can research this very easily in todays web searches via google or NASA papers of via arXiv.com
It will take time to undertand

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Unread post by nick c » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:52 pm

To understand Dark matter or Dark Energy.
It is simple to understand. The gravity only paradigm fails to explain galactic rotation and motion, so in order to save the paradigm there needs to be an ad hoc insertion of a non existent type of exotic matter, which can be placed in positions wherever needed.

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:34 pm

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/dark-en ... -research/
Dark energy, the mysterious force that causes the universe to accelerate, may have been responsible for unexpected results from the XENON1T experiment, deep below Italy’s Apennine Mountains.

… snip …

They constructed a physical model to help explain the results, which may have originated from
dark energy particles
produced in a region of the Sun with strong magnetic fields, although future experiments will be required to confirm this explanation.
Again, note that NASA’s websites don’t talk about dark energy being a particle. They mention the possibility it’s a “virtual” particle, but then dismiss that notion, as Scientific American notes (https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... rk-energy/ ), because the vacuum energy that is required “would rapidly rip the Universe to shreds, and plainly that has not happened”.

In the Standard Model, it's true that particles ... bosons ... can carry force. So are they trying to suggest this DE particle is a boson? The LHC certainly hasn’t found any proof that DE is due to a boson so far. Back in 2013 it was being suggested that the Higgs boson was a “portal” to DE, but so they found nothing conclusive, and they’re getting to the point where they’re going to have to build an even bigger collider to keep searching (which will cost lots and lots of money … a lot more than the $13 billion it cost for the LHC to find the Higgs boson).

Of course, when the advocates of a new collider talk about the cost, they like to point out that there are lots of billionaires around, but you and I know that ultimately, WE are the ones who will be paying for it. So just how much more money are you willing to *donate* to a new generation of particle/astro physicists? How much has what you *donated* so far, changed your life for the better? Very little, I imagine.

I hate to be jaded about the search for new *knowledge*, but I’ve had enough of gnomes. Perhaps we need to be concentrating on incrementally increasing knowledge that will likely have more of a positive impact on everyday life and the economy, then these boondoggles hoping to explain *everything* … until we can again afford such massive expenditures. Just saying ...

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by Harry » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:13 am

Dark matter and energy are terms used by people who do not understand.
What creates
What determines
What properties
This is complicated without knowledge.
It becomes simple when you have done years of research.
Saying that, we have much much much more to learn.
Sometimes the more we learn we find that we know very little.

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by BeAChooser » Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:16 pm

Harry wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:13 am Dark matter and energy are terms used by people who do not understand.
What creates
What determines
What properties
This is complicated without knowledge.
It becomes simple when you have done years of research.
Saying that, we have much much much more to learn.
Sometimes the more we learn we find that we know very little.
Do you have a point, Harry?

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by BeAChooser » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:40 pm

Here's another article by a big name astrophysicist and *science* writer … or what passes for one these days. It shows why I raised this topic ...

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/dark-energy/
Dark energy might be neither particle nor field

Everything else in the universe is either a particle or field. Dark energy behaves as neither, and it may be a property inherent to space itself.

by Ethan Seigel
Notice that Mr Siegel doesn’t express ANY doubt whatsoever that Dark Matter and Dark Energy are real. He exudes nothing but the *faith* of a modern leader of a CULT. And YOU are expected to *believe* and trust in his *expertise* because,after all, he is the expert. But, in reality, he is just desperately trying to find some way to explain why after decades and decades and decades (and LOTS and LOTS of money), he and his colleagues haven’t proven either DM's or DE's existence and haven't a clue as to their composition. All he can do is propose yet another gnome (something that's not particle or field) to prop up his belief and justify the MASSIVE amount of money still being spent (wasted?) by his fellow astrophysicists and particle, field or whatever physicists in search of them. No wonder the world is in the state it is, folks. I especially loved the phrase in his article “When you take away wishful thinking and look only at the evidence”. LOL! Wishful thinking is all these idiots have displayed for half a century. And they’ve been consummate ignorers of “the evidence” … just like their fellow cult members in the Global Warming and political arenas. All of them peas in a pod.

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Re: Dark Energy GARBAGE, by the same folks pushing Dark Matter nonsense…

Unread post by Harry » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:20 am

Hello

Do I have a point?

To understand the universe and explain the workings of the objects within the universe , one needs to understand what object does the pushing and attracting at the same time.

Yes at the same time

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