WIMPS vs. Axions: What is dark matter?

[BeAChooser]

https://www.universetoday.com/151836/wi ... rk-matter/

WIMPS vs. Axions: What is dark matter?

Uh … maybe neither?

First off, there’s a few things that we know about dark matter. Astronomers believe that dark matter is some kind of particle, previously unknown to physics. Whatever it is, it makes up about 80% of the mass of the universe.

Uh … actually, you don't “know” either of those things. You've merely inferred them from observations you don't understand. Just like ancient peoples inferred the existance of gods from observations they didn't understand.

It barely interacts with light, if at all. It barely interacts with normal matter, if at all. It barely interacts with itself, if at all. We also know that it’s “cold”, which means that the individual particles don’t have very high velocities.

Hate to tell you this ... but obviously you know nothing about dark matter. And by the way, NOTHING does all of those things, too.

It basically just sits there and gravitates. But that gravity is essential: it keeps galaxies glued together and provides the scaffolding for the entire large-scale structure of the universe.

Again, you don’t actually “know” any of that. And I doubt *gravity* is what produced the galactic sized, helical wound and rotating, plasma filaments that have been observed to be ubiquitous out there. And THEY appear to comprise the “scaffolding” of the large scale structure of the universe. So … in short … you dark matter gnome believers really don't *know* a thing. You just have belief in gnomes.

Beyond WIMPs and axions, theoretical physicists and cosmologists have come up with all sorts of more complicated possibilities. Maybe the dark matter interacts with itself to some degree. Maybe there are multiple species of dark matter particles. Maybe new forces of physics are involved. Maybe axions can clump together in strange ways. Maybe this, maybe that.

Yeah, and maybe dark matter doesn’t exist at all … and you are simply chasing gnomes. That possibility fits the what you just wrote too. The fact that the gnome believing priests of mainstream astrophysics clearly know so little about dark matter after nearly a century of intense, expensive searches should maybe tell us something. That maybe … just maybe … the gnome believers are idiots who are pulling a scam of monstrous proportions in order to garner power, money and prestige, not understand the universe. Sort of like the leaders of cults do. Think about it. Just saying ...

[Harry]

To understand the so called dark matter is to understand, Dipolar electromagnetic condensates and the property Chiral Supersymmetry.
These condensates have many Transients
Atomic matter compaction 10 * 5
Neutron matter 10 * 17
Compaction keeps increases with confinement caused by increase in matter
Kaon Matter
Quark matter
Partonic matter
Axion Matter 10 * 35 compaction

Most of the matter in the universe is held by the condensates.
The property of condensates helps us to explain most formations such as Star hour glass and Spriral Galaxies and so on.
The dipolar vortices also increase from internal solar to hour glass nebulae to spiral arms to M87 100,000 light years to millions of light years found in the core of super cluster of galaxies.
The inter connecting electric filaments is fantastic to say the least.

[Roshi]

Dark matter has a most magical property: It produces gravity, and this gravity affects ordinary matter.
But dark matter itself is not affected by gravity. Else - why shouldn't it form stars, planets and so on (invisible ofc)? (Stars and planets are not formed because of gravity, even for ordinary matter, but that is another story).

For their models to work, scientist need this dark matter to float around like fog, unaffected by gravity, even if it produces gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1217/

This artist's impression shows the expected distribution of dark matter in the Milky Way galaxy as a blue halo of material surrounding the galaxy.

[BeAChooser]

Dark matter has a most magical property

You assume it exists.

[paladin17]

Whatever the "candidate" they'll choose to force, it would be very bad for the future of science if they'd end up "accepting" (through the Nobel Committee) one of these fake entities as "real" - just like they did with Higgs' boson and gravitational waves. It would then take decades to rectify. And would possibly require dismantling of science as it is/were in the first place.

[Michael Mozina]

Whatever the "candidate" they'll choose to force, it would be very bad for the future of science if they'd end up "accepting" (through the Nobel Committee) one of these fake entities as "real" - just like they did with Higgs' boson and gravitational waves. It would then take decades to rectify. And would possibly require dismantling of science as it is/were in the first place.

At this point they are basically living in the literal 'dark' ages of astronomy. Future astronomers will look at mainstream beliefs today to be as silly as epicycle mathematical models that "proved" (they use those terms today too) that the Earth was the center of the universe.

[Harry]

Most scientists see things as they are taught.
Break the shell go beyond.
Research it for your self.
Your best friend is yourself
Your worst friend is yourself
Some people feel it is important to be right even though they have limited info and that’s OK.