Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

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BeAChooser
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Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:12 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57639520
Rare black hole and neutron star collisions sighted twice in 10 days

Scientists have detected two collisions between a neutron star and a black hole in the space of 10 days.

Researchers predicted that such collisions would occur, but did not know how often.

The observations could mean that some ideas of how stars and galaxies form may need to be revised.

Prof Vivien Raymond, from Cardiff University, told BBC News that the surprising results were fantastic.

"We have to go back to the drawing board and rewrite our theories," he said effusively.
Just how many times have we heard the gnome believers "effusively" say that in the past 3 decades? Hundreds?

And I love how they used the word “sighted” in the article title. Sloppy reporting at best.

And the artwork in the article depicting this event? That’s just another cottage industry that’s booming thanks to these gnomes.

If you ask me, this is just the latest *discovery* being used by the gnome believers and their lackeys in the press to ignore those intergalactic, helically wound, rotating filaments discovered the other day ... that are ohhhhh soooooo problematic to the continuation of their gnome based scam. Just saying ...

Michael Mozina
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Re: Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:16 pm

BeAChooser wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:12 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57639520
Rare black hole and neutron star collisions sighted twice in 10 days

Scientists have detected two collisions between a neutron star and a black hole in the space of 10 days.

Researchers predicted that such collisions would occur, but did not know how often.

The observations could mean that some ideas of how stars and galaxies form may need to be revised.

Prof Vivien Raymond, from Cardiff University, told BBC News that the surprising results were fantastic.

"We have to go back to the drawing board and rewrite our theories," he said effusively.
Just how many times have we heard the gnome believers "effusively" say that in the past 3 decades? Hundreds?

And I love how they used the word “sighted” in the article title. Sloppy reporting at best.

And the artwork in the article depicting this event? That’s just another cottage industry that’s booming thanks to these gnomes.

If you ask me, this is just the latest *discovery* being used by the gnome believers and their lackeys in the press to ignore those intergalactic, helically wound, rotating filaments discovered the other day ... that are ohhhhh soooooo problematic to the continuation of their gnome based scam. Just saying ...

In this case you have LIGO data being used to "test" their merger "models", so it's akin to using magic snipes to update their magic matter models. It's gotten way out of hand now.

Those helix structures are a *correct prediction* of the plasma cosmology/electric universe model, but they are not even predicted in the standard model.

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Re: Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:18 pm

Michael Mozina wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:16 pm In this case you have LIGO data being used to "test" their merger "models", so it's akin to using magic snipes to update their magic matter models.
Yep. It's a magic house of cards held together because a compliant and dishonest media have forgotten how to be real journalists. They all scratch each others backs because it leads to money, power and prestige.
Michael Mozina wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:16 pm Those helix structures are a *correct prediction* of the plasma cosmology/electric universe model, but they are not even predicted in the standard model.
Indeed. In fact, not many years ago mainstream gnome believers vehemently argued on forums like this that plasma filaments were not ubiquitous out there nor anywhere near as large. And to this day they still can't explain how helically wound ones form ... except via vague use of still more gnomes.

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Re: Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:26 pm

By the way, speaking of LIGO, the Europeans are planning a new $2 BILLION dollar gravitational wave detector called the Einstein Telescope (ET). And of course the Americans have funded a large study to start design/planning of their own new detector ... which of course they will want to be even bigger than ET. So once again we all see the motivation of those pushing this stuff. MONEY, PRESTIGE, AND POWER. It's not science.

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Re: Yet another *surprising” observations that means gnome believers must “rewrite” their theories …

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:33 am

BeAChooser wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:26 pm By the way, speaking of LIGO, the Europeans are planning a new $2 BILLION dollar gravitational wave detector called the Einstein Telescope (ET). And of course the Americans have funded a large study to start design/planning of their own new detector ... which of course they will want to be even bigger than ET. So once again we all see the motivation of those pushing this stuff. MONEY, PRESTIGE, AND POWER. It's not science.
This whole LIGO claim is very likely to blow up in their faces over the next couple of observation runs. The pressure is now on for LIGO to deliver on their promises of of additional examples of multimessenger astronomy. That can only happen if these are actually real signals from real gravitational waves.

LIGO flat out *lied* in their first published paper about there being no vetoes present within an hour of their first so called "signal". The actual signal in question was vetoed by their hardware/software routines within 18 seconds of it being uploaded to the graceDB database. LIGO simply *lied* to the peer reviewers in the published paper about that fact and thereby avoided any unpleasant need to explain which channels were involved in that veto and why their software originally rejected the fist signal with "high" confidence according to the LIGO magazine article. If they have to lie to make their point, their point is a lie. That's what it comes down to.

They got "lucky" that only one detector was able to pick out a so called "signal" within a few seconds of a gamma ray burst. Since only one detector actually "saw" it, they could manipulate the location/triangulation data to suit themselves. That kind of data manipulation scenario won't be possible with more sensitive detectors and more actual detectors online. If they aren't actually gravitation waves they are seeing, they will never be able to duplicate any additional multimessenger events because even if the timing is 'close' again, the triangulation data from LIGO won't jive with the gamma ray burst location.

Look for real panic to start setting in about half way through the next observation run (scheduled to start in June of 22) if they aren't able to deliver on their promise of multimessenger astronomy events. By December of that year, I think the Joseph Weber scenario will start to look like deja-vu scenario all over again. Gravitation wave research has a long history of crying wolf, only to have the claims eventually fall apart. In this case however the detectors don't just cost a few tens of *thousands* of dollars, they cost hundreds of millions of dollars to build, but they are building them now. More detectors and more sensitive detectors are not their friend if these are simply "blip transient" events from terrestrial discharge events in the Earth's atmosphere, and I'm convinced that is the actual source of these so called "signals".

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