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BeAChooser
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Unread post by BeAChooser » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:31 am

From October 26th …

https://phys.org/news/2023-10-astronome ... osmic.html
Using a network of radio telescopes on Earth and in space, astronomers have captured the most detailed view ever of a jet of plasma shooting from a supermassive black hole at the heart of a distant galaxy.

The jet, which comes from the heart of a distant blazar called 3C 279, travels at nearly the speed of light and shows complex, twisted patterns near its source. These patterns challenge the standard theory that has been used for 40 years to explain how these jets form and change over time.
Look at the image of the jet in the article. It’s a helically wound jet. Indeed, the article states “The jet has at least two twisted filaments of plasma extending more than 570 light-years from the center.” So, yes, it most definitely challenges the standard theory. And the article goes on to say …
The astronomers studying these twists in 3C279, called helical filaments, found that they were caused by instabilities developing in the jet plasma. .... snip ... new theoretical models are needed that can explain how such helical filaments form and evolve so close to the jet origin.
There may be instabilities, but these *scientists* must be utterly stupid not to know that pairs of current carrying filaments … and these most assuredly are carrying current … produce magnetic fields and naturally wind helically about each other. No “instabilities* or “forces around the black hole” are needed to produce this winding. They pulled those two explanations out of thin air and don’t actually have anything that proves what they claim.

Then they state
One particularly intriguing aspect arising from our results is that they suggest the presence of a helical magnetic field that confines the jet.

This is stupidity. Astrophysicists have admitted these plasma jets are fill with moving charges. In the laboratory and in computer models, paired filaments composed of moving charges, produce magnetic fields and wind about each other. These *scientists* seem to think the magnetic field was there before the jet but don't have a clue where it came from.

Next they say ...
Similar helical filaments were observed in extragalactic jets before, but on much larger scales where they are believed to result from different parts of the flow moving at different speeds and shearing against each other
They think the jets and their structure are due to turbulence and mechanical forces. What STUPIDITY. And you know what comes next … they’ll ask for lots more money from taxpayers to confirm their never-ending stupidity. Because they’ve done it over and over the last 50 years. Why do you think they live in such nice houses and can send their kids to the best ... most expensive ... Ivy League schools? They know how to work a scam ... just like the climate change community does.

Finally, note ... here’s a link to the paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.01861 . Nowhere in it do the 30 astrophysicists feeding off the tax paying public prove a cause for the helical winding. In fact, they note that the previously accepted explanation for helical jets … namely, “anchoring the filaments to the outer accretion disk to allow for a subluminal propagation of the helical pattern” implies “a exceedingly large (Keplerian) disk radius, that is, larger than ∼ 1 light-year, about two orders of magnitude larger than the expected disk sizes.” That discrepancy should be enough to make them go back to the drawing board.

But instead, they apply a patch. They propose that the helical winding “might be associated with the triggering and development of flow instabilities.” They say “Current-driven kink or Kelvin-Helmholtz (KH) instabilities are the most plausible mechanisms capable of developing such helical structures.” They must be totally unaware of the work that’s been done by plasma physicists and cosmologists in labs and with sophisticated computer models to explain the existence of helically wound pairs of plasma filaments. What a sad commentary on the state of mainstream astrophysics education. Or do modern astrophysicists love the scam they're running so much there could care less about the science?

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Unread post by Maol » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:32 pm

Wouldn't it be fun if you had a big horseshoe magnet and could play with big plasma jets like that like playing with a magnet under iron filings on a piece of paper.

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Unread post by Phorce » Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:54 pm

They're not stupid. They're trapped in this ...
"When Descartes made this division between the realms of matter and spirit, he established a new demarcation between science and religion, defining their boundaries. Science took the whole of nature, including the human body. All nature was secularized. The arts and religion took the soul. In this way a modus vivendi was established between science and religion. Science was concerned with the objective realm of facts; religion and the arts with the subjective realm of values, aesthetics, morality and belief. Science got the better part of the bargain, since it got practically everything, as defined in its own terms."
https://www.sheldrake.org/about-rupert-sheldrake/interviews/in-the-vale-of-soul-making

The current state of affairs in science and in this case Cosmology is they have to avoid the "making sacred" of reality, or they lose their jobs basically. It's as if they fear raising the ghost of Vitalism so much that they think they would be changed into something akin to the Gypsy fortune teller rather than being a "real" scientist. Of course after the outrage of joining the two things back together cleared (joining body back to soul, and by extension the universal body back to soul) then Science would continue on its merry way much enriched.
Exploration and discovery without honest investigation of "extraordinary" results leads to a Double Bind (Bateson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind ) that creates loss of hope and depression. No more Double Binds !

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