Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light? If you have a personal favorite theory, that is in someway related to the Electric Universe, this is where it can be posted.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:24 pm

Lloyd wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:51 pm I guess just try to avoid judging anyone's motives.
I agree with much of what you said, but I think examining motives is critical, and in my opinion is it's long past time that the American Public (the world at large) examined the motives of leaders in government, industry, the media and science pushing big ideas. Pushing AGW alarmism. Pushing mainstream fusion efforts. Pushing dark matter, dark energy, and other astrophysics gnomes. Pushing socialism. One of my favorite examples is FDR, who knowingly sold Social Security to a gullible public using a lengthy pack of lies (I could list them if you like). Few people examined his motives at the time ... and they should have. Because he was a Fabian Socialist and his intent was to make people dependent on the government. Which is exactly what Social Security, as constructed by him and his Fabian Socialist colleagues, did. So much harm and waste could be avoided if we just looked behind the curtain at those pushing big ideas. In the case astrophysics, astronomy and particle physics, the unwillingness to deal with the motives of those pushing a countless stream of gnomes has squandered tens of BILLIONS of dollars and cost (probably) TRILLIONS of dollars in economic progress. And right now, the unwillingness of those supporting the mainstream to examine the motives of those behind Covid-19 and the mainstreams solutions to the virus is threatening the very foundations of civilization. Those in charge have NEVER been interested in stopping the virus. They are using it.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Cargo » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:33 am

I'm glad more here are starting to catch up. Since you may be breaking new ground, why not keep digging.

EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018, seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses.
The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violated the gain of function research moratorium. However, according to the documents, NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, went ahead with the research in Wuhan, China and at several sites across the U.S.
There appears to be an even more damning section in support of Ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment. The whole "reason" behind the FDA EUA was that that no "common drug" was available that could "treat" the COVID "illness".
"Ivermectin works throughout all phases of illness because it both inhibits viral replication and modulates the immune response."
Now you can find these files online all over the place, but I want to bring this highlight to you. Reminder this is from DARPA documents in 2018.

The Fauci in 2009, looking out for the companies. Do you remember when you started taking a flu shot every year? Because you were told to.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1478574274998898688

"the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has recommended since 2010 that everyone receive annual flu vaccinations. Given that policy, it would be unethical for researchers here to randomly assign some people to forgo vaccinations in some years.” For the Science.
https://www.statnews.com/2015/11/11/flu ... ctiveness/
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:52 pm

Cargo wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:33 am EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018, seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses.
The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violated the gain of function research moratorium. However, according to the documents, NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, went ahead with the research in Wuhan, China and at several sites across the U.S.
There appears to be an even more damning section in support of Ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment. The whole "reason" behind the FDA EUA was that that no "common drug" was available that could "treat" the COVID "illness".
"Ivermectin works throughout all phases of illness because it both inhibits viral replication and modulates the immune response."
Now you can find these files online all over the place, but I want to bring this highlight to you. Reminder this is from DARPA documents in 2018.
Read the links at https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum3/ph ... t=90#p6221

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Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:53 pm

Science During subtopic: informed consent

The question of informed consent is still open.

Patients must be informed on the mechanism of the medication, the side effects, the drug interactions, and also other forms of treatment available. It is also important to have realistic expectations of the outcomes.

I have noticed that people I talk with who have gotten the experimental genetic therapy injection were not very clear on the fact -- at the time of injection -- that they would still be able to be infected by the claimed virus, to replicate the claimed virus, and to transmit the claimed virus.

Was this in the small print? Was this in the insert?
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:01 pm

@Brigit Or were the purveyors of the mRNA vaccines surprised at how relatively ineffective they proved to be?

I saw the other day where a Maine physician has been suspended by her licensing board for wrongthink. From the website News Center Maine
According to an order issued by the board, Nass said she would not comply with mask or vaccine mandates, alleged the federal government was hiding information about less severe COVID cases and claimed the government was vaccinating children without parental consent.
She also fudged a diagnosis in order to provide HCQ to a patient with COVID.

In addition to her 30 day suspension she has been ordered to undergo a neuropsychological review (shades of the old Soviet Union!). I wonder if we'll see Samizdatsya springing up here also. God bless Andrei Sakharov and Yelena Bonner for their courage in those dark days.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:23 pm

jackokie wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:01 pm I saw the other day where a Maine physician has been suspended by her licensing board for wrongthink.

... snip ...

In addition to her 30 day suspension she has been ordered to undergo a neuropsychological review (shades of the old Soviet Union!).
The tactics being used to deal with “wrongthink” are described in George Orwell’s novel ‘1984’ … which was written as a warning about the dangers of Fabian Socialism, which the people at the top of the current administration stealthily (or perhaps without realizing it) are promoting.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by allynh » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:17 pm

I'm going to be heretical here and introduce a source from a comedian, that still points out the absurdities.

Just About Everybody Will Get Covid | Are Cannabis Users Protected?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAMO_bLMw8

Then this is the latest podcast from DarkHorse. You will see that Heather is getting over Omicron, both have never been vaccinated.

Bret and Heather 111th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: On Dying, Lying, & Testifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAH8mRFauAs

The key link in the podcast was:

I was deceived about COVID vaccine safety
https://joomi.substack.com/p/i-was-dece ... id-vaccine
Joomi Kim wrote: Why did I write this article?

In May of 2021, I took the second dose of the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine. At the time, I was led to believe that everybody knows the vaccines are safe and effective. I kept hearing that anybody who believed in science should want to get vaccinated.

I used to be a biologist, so of course I believed in science. So I took the vaccine.

If I had known what I know now, I would not have taken it.

At the time, I had no idea of the level of censorship that hides Covid vaccine injuries from the public. At the time, I thought we could trust our health institutions, more or less.

But not all vaccines are the same, and not all vaccines are equally safe. And criticizing the Covid vaccines, does not make one “anti-vax.”

When it comes to the Covid vaccines, there is overwhelming evidence that they lead to much higher rates of injury and death, than what our health institutions, like the CDC, acknowledge and report to the public.

I wrote this article in order to take some of the evidence for this and compile it into one, shareable article.

If you’re a subscriber to this newsletter, some of what I will cover in this article won’t be news to you.

But most people don’t know anything about what’s been going on, because it’s being actively censored.

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The article covers many of the links that everyone has posted in this thread. There are a number of links and videos in the article that are worth viewing.

- It is quite disturbing when put in this form.

The mention that this is not a "vaccine" way up thread is something that I've been telling friends, but they are trapped in the mindset. I've been dealing with vaccines since I was a kid in small town Silver City. The whole town lined up to fight polio, twice. The adults got a shot, the kids got sugar cubes.

- At no time were we told that we would still get polio.

Every vaccine that I have taken was to prevent the disease, not simply moderate it, and I have had a ton of vaccinations over my life.

I took the covid vaccine and booster so that I would not be denied access to going to the store. It hasn't reached that point here in Santa Fe, but it has in other parts of the country.

I'm in pain everyday at the injection site, and there is no mechanism to report that here in New Mexico.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:04 am

allynh wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:17 pm The mention that this is not a "vaccine" way up thread is something that I've been telling friends
The CDC, mainstream health authorities, Biden administration officials, and the mainstream media ALL know that the Covid-19 *vaccines* being forced on people in the US and other Fabian Socialist countries (like Australia) are not really vaccines. Which is why the CDC suddenly, in September 2021, officially changed the definition of the word vaccine. This was revealed via internal emails obtained through a Freedom Of Information Act request (see https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc-em ... of-vaccine ). As pointed out in that link ...
The prior CDC Definitions of Vaccine and Vaccination (August 26, 2021 http://web.archive.org/web/202108261138 ... basics.htm):
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
The CDC Definitions of Vaccine and Vaccination since September 1, 2021 : https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm :
Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. (BAC - notice, no mention of immunity) Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
The use of the term "immunity" has be deleted.

These people are EVIL. It isn't science they're promoting but a political agenda.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:41 pm

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Bea, if you want to harp on Fabian Socialism, try starting a new thread on that. You know it won't be allowed, so it won't be allowed here either and the whole thread may get locked. I don't know what FDR's motives were, but social security seems to me to have helped a lot of people to prevent poverty. If you think it's fine here to question motives, then should we question yours? Is your motive to get this thread locked? (Or could that be an unintended consequence?)
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm

Back to Science.

I think good scientific method includes looking for the best arguments of opposing views. I don't know if this is the best, but it's got a bunch of opposing arguments. It's from a year ago. It's called Doctor Fact-Checks PLANDEMIC Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpjc1QZg84&t=1684s

Argument #1: HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
One of the things he calls a fact in the video is that hydroxychloroquine is useless against Covid, or maybe against any flu. The person who seems more knowledgeable on health than anyone else I know of is James Sloane. He's an herbalist, but he spent 13 years working in a hospital as a med tech etc. He got a lot of his knowledge apparently by reading scientific studies published on PubMed in addition to his training as a med tech. He said in his private Facebook group, called Science-based Natural Healing, that there were over 100 studies showing that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment, but I don't know how many involved treating the flu or Covid. Here's a list of 51 studies that may discuss both hydroxychloroquine and flu: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=h ... flu&page=6 . He was criticizing Google's so-called Fact-checkers, whom he said were not stating facts. However, Sloane hasn't recommended that remedy to my knowledge. Instead, he has recommended supplements. He has also recommended other supplements for anyone who gets a Covid "vaccine", i.e. Trimethyl Glycine, Schisandra Berry and/or Chlorella. I've heard others recommend Bromelain.

Argument #2: PAYMENT FOR DIAGNOSES
Some criticize the fact that hospitals are paid for Covid diagnoses etc, but this doctor says that's how they can be reimbursed for the expensive treatments needed for it.

Argument #3: DRUG PATENTS
Some criticize the practice of the government giving drug companies patents on meds, but this doctor says if it weren't for this practice a lot of meds would go to waste and never be made available for treatments. Tell me if I misunderstood that argument. My impression is that nearly all meds are less effective for treatments than are natural remedies. The doctor did seem to agree that natural remedies should receive a lot more scientific investigation.

I didn't finish watching the entire video, at least so far.

OTHER COVID QUESTIONS:
- Is or was there really a Covid Pandemic?
- Do masks and social distancing do any good?
- Who has legitimate authority to make laws or requirements?
- Are lockdowns more harmful or beneficial?
- Is free speech being censored - if so, by whom?
- Is censorship more harmful or beneficial?
- Are Covid vaccines needed?
- Are any vaccines safe or effective?
- How many have died or been injured by Covid?
- How many have died or been injured by Covid vaccines?

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:41 pm

Finding accurate information about Covid is not easy, but with patience it can be done. Here are a few examples I believe to be reliable:

C19early.com is a website that aggregates studies of Covid treatments. It covers many drugs, including HCQ and Ivermectin. Both have shown to be effective, HCQ when given early, especially when given with Zinc and/or Azithromycin, and Ivermectin as a prophylactic and at any time in the course of the disease.
https://c19early.com

This link is to an Oct 05 2020 Pub.Med (NIH) article about a survey of Covid treatments with HCQ. From the article:
HCQ was found to be consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting. It was also found to be overall effective in inpatient studies. No unbiased study found worse outcomes with HCQ use. No mortality or serious safety adverse events were found. HCQ is consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting, it is overall effective against COVID-19, it has not produced worsening of disease and it is safe.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33042552/

The Indian state of Uttar Pradesh is the most populous state in India at around 240 million people. The average income is $885, and 38% of the population falls at or below the poverty line. The government of Uttar Pradesh took a proactive approach to Covid, sending teams to around 98,000 villages to monitor the spread of Covid. When someone tested positive they were placed in isolation and given a Covid Isolation Kit that contained among other items the medicines Doxycycline and Ivermectin. The first link is to a website that includes a striking graph of daily Covid deaths in Uttar Pradesh. The second link provides a comprehensive report of Uttar Pradesh's efforts. From the report:
News18 reported, "Let’s look at the contrasting picture. Kerala, with its 3.5 crore population - or 35 million, on August 25 reported 31,445 new cases, a bulk of the total cases reported in the country. Uttar Pradesh, the biggest state with a population of nearly 24 crore - or 240 million - meanwhile reported just 22 cases in the same period.
Which is pretty clear evidence to me that if we had adopted Uttar Pradesh's approach, with emphasis on protecting those most vulnerable to Covid, a lot more people would still be with us.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/india/ut ... &tab=trend
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Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:13 pm

Lloyd wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm Back to Science.

I think good scientific method includes looking for the best arguments of opposing views. I don't know if this is the best, but it's got a bunch of opposing arguments. It's from a year ago. It's called Doctor Fact-Checks PLANDEMIC Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpjc1QZg84&t=1684s
Regarding the “Doctor Mike” video. You should look behind the curtain at HIS motives. Here's why.

In April of 2020, in an interview (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cov ... 00549.html) he promised that the Covid19 vaccines would not be launched until research had proven them safe and effective. Well, they're neither now, and in fact the ones we're being forced to take are not even a "vaccine" under the definition that was officially blessed by the CDC prior to September 2021. Doctor Mike must know this, but has he said one word about that in any of his current videos? Not that I can find. Apparently, arbitrarily changing the definition of vaccine doesn't bother him one bit.

In June of 2021, he interviewed Fauci (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIS2K0g9-U0) face to face (announcing that they were able to do so thanks to the *vaccine*). Listen to it. The interview was nothing but a love fest between the two. That should tell you something given all we knew about Fauci, even back in June of 2021. There were no hard questions ... at all. It was a case of Dr Mike again just trying to encourage people to take the vaccine ... ignoring ALL the facts suggesting otherwise. In fact, during the interview Dr Mike admitted that "I work a lot with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer in pushing out some of the information about the vaccine to help individuals who are perhaps vaccine-hesitant or just want more information on the subject." That should tell you a lot because Schumer is one of the most partisan leftists in the Senate ... who has demonstrably lied and fabricated *facts* on numerous occasions. I wouldn't want work with him for a million dollars.

During the interview Dr Mike also pushed the notion of giving the vaccines to children 12 years old. Were they rigorously tested on 12 year olds ... no. Yet, back in 2020, Dr Mike said the key to their safety was testing. Is he now pushing the vaccines for use on 5 year olds? During the interview, he also let Fauci get away with saying "cloth masks work", even though we now know Fauci and the CDC knew even back then that cloth masks did not work. And he had every reason from a science standpoint to question that statement. Like I said, the interview was nothing but a love fest with *Dr* Mike nodding at anything Fauci said.

He even called Fauci a "champion of science" and then said "Your face has been put on T-shirts, socks, cupcakes. I have seen everybody celebrate the work that you've done leading the way with humility and honesty, treating science as it deserves to be treated. How does that feel?" Seriously. The whole interview makes me want to puke. It is nothing but another sell job for the establishment ... short on science, long on politics. Oh ... and one more item from the interview. Dr Mike ends the interview by boasting about People magazine naming him the "sexiest doctor alive" and suggests Fauci should win the honor next. Then he tells the audience that Fauci has "given us the best information with the most humble approach". Riiiigggghhhhttt.

Then in November 2021, Dr Mike put out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKYcBu9SWY which was more of the fear porn being used by mainstream to get people to take the vaccine. His website introduction to the video began with this sentence: "The Omicron variant might be the scariest version of COVID yet." And notice that in the video there's no mention of the fact that the vaccines were now, officially, not vaccines according to the pre-September CDC definition of vaccine. In January 2022, Dr Mike put out this https://covid19updates.org/new-covid-va ... -immunity/ . It's another video assuring the public that the Covid *vaccines* are wonderful and they need to get vaccinated right away ... while trying you explain away why the so-called *vaccines* aren't working on Omicron.

All of this tells me that Dr Mike is part of the system now trying to dishonestly force this on us REGARDLESS OF SCIENCE. Don’t expect me to view ANYTHING he publishes as a discussion of *science* or worth even reading or listening to now. He’s just a tool of the establishment.

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Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:59 pm

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Thanks, Bea. SHALL WE TACKLE ANY OF THESE OPPOSING VIEWS?
(I'm leaving out the details for now where I have ...)
Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... facts.html
...
_MYTH: The ingredients in COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous.
FACT: Nearly all the ingredients in COVID-19 vaccines are also ingredients in many foods – fats, sugars, and salts.
...
_MYTH: The natural immunity I get from being sick with COVID-19 is better than the immunity I get from COVID-19 vaccination.
FACT: Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is a safer and more dependable way to build immunity to COVID-19 than getting sick with COVID-19.
...
_MYTH: COVID-19 vaccines cause variants.
FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not create or cause variants of the virus that causes COVID-19. Instead, COVID-19 vaccines can help prevent new variants from emerging.
_MYTH: All events reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) are caused by vaccination.
FACT: Anyone can report events to VAERS, even if it is not clear whether a vaccine caused the problem. Because of this, VAERS data alone cannot determine if the reported adverse event was caused by a COVID-19 vaccination.
...
_MYTH: The mRNA vaccine is not considered a vaccine.
FACT: mRNA vaccines, such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, work differently than other types of vaccines, but they still trigger an immune response inside your body.
...
_MYTH: COVID-19 vaccines contain microchips.
FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not contain microchips. Vaccines are developed to fight against disease and are not administered to track your movement.
_MYTH: Receiving a COVID-19 vaccine can make you magnetic.
FACT: Receiving a COVID-19 vaccine will not make you magnetic, including at the site of vaccination which is usually your arm.
...
_MYTH: COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States shed or release their components.
FACT: Vaccine shedding is the release or discharge of any of the vaccine components in or outside of the body and can only occur when a vaccine contains a live weakened version of the virus.
...
_MYTH: COVID-19 vaccines can alter my DNA.
FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way.
...
_MYTH: A COVID-19 vaccine can make me sick with COVID-19.
FACT: Because none of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines in the United States contain the live virus that causes COVID-19, the vaccine cannot make you sick with COVID-19.
_Other Myths and Facts
Frequently Asked Questions about Vaccination https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... s/faq.html
Key Things to Know about COVID-19 Vaccines https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... hings.html

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:26 am

@Lloyd Since you're providing links from the CDC, here is one for your consideration from my comment above:
This link is to an Oct 05 2020 Pub.Med (NIH) article about a survey of Covid treatments with HCQ. From the article:

HCQ was found to be consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting. It was also found to be overall effective in inpatient studies. No unbiased study found worse outcomes with HCQ use. No mortality or serious safety adverse events were found. HCQ is consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting, it is overall effective against COVID-19, it has not produced worsening of disease and it is safe.
Note the date - Oct 05 2020. Yet HCQ is still verboten, period. Perhaps you saw where a doctor in Maine was suspended for, among other things, promoting HCQ. I recommend you review my entire comment, with special attention to the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh's successful use of Ivermectin. Yet just the other day I saw a public service announcement from the CDC / NIH encouraging people not to take horse medicine (Ivermectin). Do you not wonder why HCQ and Ivermectin, both well understood, safe, CHEAP, and as shown by the C19early link in my comment above, effective are shunned in favor of new expensive medicines with no track record?

Re "FACT: Nearly all the ingredients in COVID-19 vaccines are also ingredients in many foods – fats, sugars, and salts."
I don't know about you but I ingest fats, sugars, and salts. I don't inject them.

The CDC, NIH, etc. have lost all credibility with me.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:03 am

Lloyd wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:59 pm Thanks, Bea. SHALL WE TACKLE ANY OF THESE OPPOSING VIEWS?
I'd first like to hear what you think about them first. We can start with these two claims ...

MYTH: The natural immunity I get from being sick with COVID-19 is better than the immunity I get from COVID-19 vaccination.
FACT: Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is a safer and more dependable way to build immunity to COVID-19 than getting sick with COVID-19.

MYTH: The mRNA vaccine is not considered a vaccine.
FACT: mRNA vaccines, such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, work differently than other types of vaccines, but they still trigger an immune response inside your body.

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