Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light? If you have a personal favorite theory, that is in someway related to the Electric Universe, this is where it can be posted.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:27 am

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FROM A VACCINE VICTIM AT THE NEW WEBSITE FOR SAME
https://www.realnotrare.com/post/brianne-dressen

... Over the past year, I have been on death’s doorstep more times than I want to remember, have fought and clawed my way back to some sort of level of function more times than I can count. Have been on the verge of financial ruin (thanks drug company), been called a liar, a fraud, anti-vax, a murderer. Have experienced gaslighting at all levels, family, medical teams, the media, the government, even from the medical journal that published the clinical trial where my data is omitted.
_The hard reality is… the world simply is not what I believed it to be. I believed, and I trusted, that if I took care of those around me, that world would come back around if I needed the same.
_I believed I was enlisting in the fight to protect lives. Yes I was enlisting in that fight, but in a way that I didn’t even know existed.
_But, there is beauty in this story. The community of vaccine injured are the most genuine and REAL people I could have ever had the privilege of knowing. We are all marginalized, abandoned, unsure what the future holds…and all we have is each other. We have seen each other through our darkest days and have celebrated the victories, no matter how small. It is us against the world…and we all have been surrounded by an ugliness that absolutely none of us signed up for. We did not want this, in fact, we signed up for the opposite.
_We have also crossed paths with incredible people. Those emerging from the shadows to help us, to support us, who see the injustice, the flaws in the narrative. Very real and genuine people. Many of whom have risked everything to stand along side us, to fight for their own rights, to fight for scientific integrity.
_These people … each one is invaluable. Brought together through tragedy, we have built an incredible and irreplaceable community.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:57 am

Lloyd wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:27 am FROM A VACCINE VICTIM AT THE NEW WEBSITE FOR SAME
There used to be another website for vaccine victims.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/20 ... -for-help/
there is a private group on Facebook called “Covid19 Vaccine Victims & Families”. https://www.truthsonar.com/widget/?pub=blescom&ads=2

After receiving vaccines from Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca, nearly 29,500 members of the group ” Victims and Families of the COVID 19 Vaccine ” describe horrible health problems such as strokes, blood clots, profuse bleeding, needle-like pains of needles in the extremities and paralysis.

Despite the devastating testimonials, Facebook adds a disclaimer to each of the group members’ posts to assure users that the vaccines are “safe” and “effective.”

“COVID-19 vaccines go through a lot of tests to check their safety and efficacy and are then closely monitored,” the notification states, citing the World Health Organization.
If you try to go to that Facebook group now using the link in the above article, this is the message you get (https://www.facebook.com/groups/616637409732910 ) …
This content isn’t available right now.
When this happens, it’s usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it’s been deleted.
And what do you know …

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/20 ... reactions/
Facebook DELETES 120,000 Member Group Where People Posted Stories Of Alleged Adverse Covid Vaccine Reactions

… snip …

The group, “COVID-19 VACCINE VICTIMS AND FAMILIES”, had over 120,000 followers when it was removed from the social media platform, and was gaining more than 10,000 followers per week.
Now, try to convince me that Facebook's actions weren’t political in nature. And if the consequence of taking the Covid injections (they're not vaccines) can not even be discussed because the organizations connecting people to one another are cutting the lines of communication between those people, then we have a huge problem and *science* is broken. If we want to fix science, we're going to have to fix the lines of communication and how do we do that without fixing Facebook, Twitter, and mainstream media, which is also censoring such information?

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:43 am

@Brigit @Lloyd @BeAChooser
The lack of transparency about the virus and the various attempts to deal with it have led to our current sorry circumstances. @Brigit's info about the virus is news to me - and glad I am to have it.

We're looking at a tyranny that's been imposed despite
* The lack of transparency about the formulation of the rules for counting cases, hospitalizations, and deaths,
* The lack of granularity in the stats,
* The burdens imposed on our children: The damage of being labeled a disease vector, and their interrupted education.
* The frantic efforts to suppress "misinformation" such as
- Inexpensive therapeutics like HCQ and Ivermectin (despite the NIH's own websites containing favorable studies),
- The ineffectiveness of masks,
- The concerns of the inventor of mRNA vaccines.
I can scarcely imagine how it came to happen, and how many have docilely gone along with it.
Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:12 am

jackokie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:43 am I can scarcely imagine how it came to happen, and how many have docilely gone along with it.
It's obvious. A 100 year stealth takeover of media, education, business, the judicial system and both political parties by Fabian Socialists, who then used those organizations to indoctrinate and propagandize a large portion of the population ... until the word communism and socialism were not scary but something mainstreams polls claimed was desired ... until the majority viewed being compliant as more important than being free ... until there was the FALSE perception that this is the most racist country on earth and that BLM/Antifa were good guys. They used all those organizations to control the news (lies) the general public heard. All of which some of us were warning people about during the last two presidential elections cycles but human nature makes it difficult to change people's minds once they formed an opinion. Democrats might not have lost the 2016 election if Hillary hadn't been such a terrible candidate. And Biden wouldn't have won had it not been for blatant election fraud. There is no way on earth that he got 81 million votes when he couldn't even get a few thousand to show up at his campaign events. When Kamala couldn't even get 3% of the vote in Iowa and got zero delegates in the California primary ... her home state. When indicator after indicator used in previous elections pointed to the Democratic ticket losing HUUUUGE. Just today it was revealed that over 550,000 Registered Voters (one fourteenth of the database) In Wisconsin have a registration Date of 1/1/1918 (i.e., they were more than 100 years old in 2020) and that in 2020 115,252 of them voted. And that's not the only major irregularity in that state's election or in any of the states that Biden supposedly won. I'll not say more than that but ... it's obvious.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:02 pm

From the article linked below:
Scottish data shows that the COVID-19 age-standardized case rate is highest among the two-dose vaccinated and lowest among unvaccinated! It further shows this trend of negative efficacy for the double-vaccinated persisting for hospitalizations and deaths.
<snip>
What this report shows is that just 18.5% of the hospitalizations in Scotland were unvaccinated, but even that number includes numerous people within 21 days of the first shot, which is clearly a very vulnerable time. It’s akin to telling someone in a foxhole to run across the field of fire to get to a bunker that might be safer, but he runs an even higher risk of getting cut down before reaching the bunker. Then, after a few hours, the bunker will get overrun by the enemy and you have to run through a new field of fire to get to the next bunker.
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz ... m-scotland

From a comment to the linked article:
Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE)

To put it simply, it is when a virus binds to a suboptimal antibody that is present in the host and then utilizes the antibody to enter into the cells to then allow the virus to replicate. It has been a known issue with both naturally occurring antibodies as well as with antibodies produced after a vaccination

When ADE and your T-Cells start working together, it can lead to Vaccine Associated Disease Enhancement (VADE) which can be seen in a population when the vaccinated are both infected at a higher rate than those that are unvaccinated and when the symptoms are worse among the vaccinated.

This is not a new thing, it has been studied for decades. It was first really looked into for Dengue Fever as most of the time, someone’s first bout with Dengue is mild, but if they are infected again the symptoms are much worse. When one would typically expect their natural antibodies to help them; sometimes this is not the case.

Now just imagine if a whole bunch of people got an experimental vaccine and it has their bodies produce the wrong antibodies…..hmmmmmm that sounds like something possibly happening now.
Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:53 am

Read this article that just was published ...

https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/emails-re ... hemselves/
Emails reveal scientists suspected COVID leaked from Wuhan lab – then quickly censored themselves
... then try to convince me that what happened was just broken scientific methology.

No, it was politics, Fauci's own financial greed, and Fauci saving his own neck.

And if you don't fix those three things, you're not going to fix the science.

Then SCIENCE IS DEAD.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:38 pm

by jackokie » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:43 pm
"@Brigit @Lloyd @BeAChooser
The lack of transparency about the virus and the various attempts to deal with it have led to our current sorry circumstances. @Brigit's info about the virus is news to me - and glad I am to have it.
"


Sure jackokie, and let me get you the references for that.
  • Ref 1: this is from emails obtained by Tom Fitton through FOIA requests of correspondences
    between Dr Falsi and the W I V

    Bats as animal reservoirs for the SARS
    coronavirus: hypothesis proved after 10
    years of virus hunting
    October 2013
    • Manli Wang,
    • ZhihongHu
    Download PDF (347 KB)
    Abstract
    Recently, the team led by Dr. Zhengli Shi from Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy
    of Sciences, and Dr. Peter Daszak from Ecohealth Alliance identified SL-Co V s in Chinese
    horseshoe bats that were 95% identical to human SARS-Co V and were able to use human
    angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor for docking and entry. Remarkably, they
    isolated the first known live bat SL-CoV that replicates in human and related cells. Their
    findings provide clear evidence that some SL-Co V s circulating in bats are capable of infecting
    and replicating in human (Ge X Y, et al., 2013).


    Fig. 1 Bat SL-Co V-WIVl uses ACE2 to directly infect human cells_
    A newly isolated wild-type bat SL-CoV-\VlYl is found to use ACE2 as a cellular
    entry receptor and replicate in hum..m alreolar basal epithelial cells {A549). pig
    kidney-15 cells (PK15) and Chinese horseshoe bar kidney cells (RSKT). (Figure
    pro\·ided by l'l.!eng Wang. Wuhan Institute ofV.trology.)
Notice that these are from October 2013. I posted this earlier in the thread so this is a repost.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:56 pm

Reference 2

In a House Oversight and Reform Subcommittee on Select Coronavirus Crisis hearing on Jun 29th 2021, witnesses Dr. Steven Quay and Dr. Richard Muller said that within the COVID-19 virus were indications that it was created through gain-of-function research.

In Dr. Richard Muller's remarks he stated that the ACE 2 blocking spike protein had been 98% optimized, and that there is no known way for that spike to get there other than through gene insertion technology.

Ref 3

My third reference is Dr. Robert Malone, but I will have to find the exact statements he has made about the lab origins of the spike protein found on the virus, and the same spike produced by the cells using the mrna/lipid nanoparticle injections. From memory, he said that it is the same spike; if it was altered it was not to make it any safer but to make it slightly more immunogenic.


The point being that the ACE 2 blocker was artificially added to the bat-hog-human virus, and then the experimental nanoparticle injections cause the body's own cells to mass produce this same ACE2 blocker, in unknown quantities for unknown durations.
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Unread post by Brigit » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:38 pm

Angiotensin Converting Enzyme 2 receptors are found throughout the body and play an important part in our plasma-salt-water levels.

It is a physiologically very active spike protein they have chosen to infect people with. It is Drug delivery.

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

However, what we should be looking at now are the efforts to build mRNA injection manufacturing plants in countries around the world:
  • Canada
    Moderna Outlines Plans For mRNA Vaccine Manufacturing ...
    https://www.benzinga.com › general › biotech › 21 › 08 › 22427319 › moderna-outlines-plans-for-mrna-vaccine-manufacturing-plant-in-canada
    Moderna Outlines Plans For mRNA Vaccine Manufacturing Plant In Canada ... the idea is to eventually use the site to supply Canada with direct access to rapid pandemic response capabilities ...

    Australia
    United States pharmaceutical firm, Moderna Inc., has announced an agreement with the Australian government to build an mRNA vaccine manufacturing unit in Victoria, in a bid to bolster direct access to rapid pandemic response capabilities. The contemplated framework would build the foundation to support the production of 100 million mRNA doses ...

    Africa and Massachusetts
    Inhouse manufacturing helping speedy progression of mRNA ...
    Moderna Therapeutics believes its Norwood, Massachusetts manufacturing plant is a "competitive strategic advantage" in the race to develop and scale-up a vaccine against COVID-19.
I want to draw attention to the fact that the motive is to create rapid responses to pandemics using mRNA nanoparticle injections.

There are some real problems with this. We went from an emergency use authorization for mRNA injections, to mandated use, to thousands of people losing their jobs in my state alone for refusing the injection, to creating manufacturing plants all over the world for "rapid pandemic response", all in very rapid succession!
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:47 pm

We have seen that the spike protein, an ACE2 blocker, was put on the animal-to-human virus using gene insertion technology (ref 1,2,3 above).

We have also seen that mRNA delivery using nanoparticle injections (or adenovirus injections, both) causes the cells to produce the same spike protein, an ACE2 blocker.

We also know that ACE2 blockers are drugs which people take orally, usually for blood pressure.

So this technology which has only been given emergency authorization as a vaccine is fully capable of causing the body to manufacture ligands/hormones/neuropeptides.

What the hell is next? Serotonin reuptake blockers? antipsychotics? antidepressants? hormone treatments? These all block receptors on human cells as well.

And all they have to do is claim it was found as a part of a virus and the injections can begin within weeks.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:43 am

Brigit wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:38 pm We went from an emergency use authorization for mRNA injections, to mandated use, to thousands of people losing their jobs in my state alone for refusing the injection, [BAC - to deliberately ignoring harmful effects from them], [BAC - to redefining "vaccine" to include these injections], [BAC - to pushing vaccination of 4 month to 5 year olds], [BAC - to suggesting there's now a need for yearly *updates*], to creating manufacturing plants all over the world for "rapid pandemic response", all in very rapid succession!
Yes. lt's almost like someone has a plan that goes far beyond dealing with the Covid *pandemic*.

And that plan seems to be headed toward incarcerating the unvaccinated and depriving them of other civil rights.

And, perhaps not coincidently, the unvaccinated are more likely conservative than not.

You don't suppose there's a more nefarious purpose to all this than just dealing with Covid-19, do you? ;)

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:59 am

We have seen that the spike protein, an ACE2 blocker, was put on the animal-to-human virus using gene insertion technology (ref 1,2,3 above).

We have also seen that mRNA delivery using nanoparticle injections (or adenovirus injections, both) causes the cells to produce the same spike protein, an ACE2 blocker.

We also know that ACE2 blockers are drugs which people take orally, usually for blood pressure.

So this technology which has only been given emergency authorization as a vaccine is fully capable of causing the body to manufacture ligands/hormones/neuropeptides.

What the hell is next? Serotonin reuptake blockers? antipsychotics? antidepressants? hormone treatments? These all block receptors on human cells as well.

And all they have to do is claim it was found as a part of a virus and the injections can begin within weeks.
“Oh for shame, how these mortals put the blame upon us gods, for they say evils come from us, when it is they rather who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given…”
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jackokie » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:42 pm

@Brigit Many thanks for your research. It makes the censorship around Covid look even worse, if that's possible. And yet the juggernaut rolls on.
Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once.

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Unread post by GaryN » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:49 pm

Just came upon this during my wanderings and thought I'd add it this to the conversation:
From the Journal of Science, London, 1881: "Epidemiology, or the Remote Causes of Epidemic Diseases in the Animal and Vegetable Creation"

"there occur certain 'pestilential epochs,' during which the world is at frequent intervals devastated by epidemics which travel in a determinate direction from Central or Eastern Asia to the west of Europe and even to America; that during such epochs all diseases, even those not considered as communicable from one person to another, increase in frequency and violence; that these epochs are further marked by Epizoötics and by 'blights' or widespread diseases in the vegetable world, and are attended by a general intensification of earthquakes, storms, floods, droughts, fogs, seasons of abnormal heat or cold, and other convulsions of inorganic nature. Such an epoch is generally ushered in by the appearance of new diseases, or the reappearance of maladies that had become obsolete."
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:57 pm

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Ebola: Shattering the Lies and the Fakery
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/ebola ... he-fakery/

Triple-jabbed over-30s have higher infection rates than the unvaccinated
https://www.sott.net/article/463426-Tri ... -data-show

Triple Vaccinated may be developing AIDS at an alarming rate
https://www.sott.net/article/463446-Off ... rming-rate

Record hospitalisations in highly vaccinated US states
https://www.sott.net/article/463473-Rec ... urge-peaks

Boston patient removed from heart transplant list for being unvaccinated
https://www.sott.net/article/463612-Bos ... vaccinated

Testing healthy people is stupid
https://www.sott.net/article/463613-Tes ... -is-stupid

Pfizer's poison Covid pill
https://www.sott.net/article/463689-Pfi ... Covid-pill

Government VAERS Data Reveal 15,600% Increase in Heart Disease Among Under 30 Year-Olds Following COVID-19 Vaccination
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/gover ... ccination/

Hospitals as Jails and Death Traps
http://mileswmathis.com/horspital.pdf
_We now know that hospitals were/are being paid to diagnose people with Covid, paid to treat them with deadly remdesivir, paid to put them on deadly ventilators, and paid even more when they are dead. In essence, hospitals are being paid for dead bodies, which is indistinguishable in my eyes from pre-meditated murder for profit. And why would they do this? Two main reasons: 1) To sell vaccines [They may be "free" to patients, but governments buy them with taxpayers' money], 2) to lower populations, especially among the elderly and those on Social Security. Also notice that last link [https://www.citizensjournal.us/bidens-b ... -covid-19/] confirms the ability of the hospital to kidnap you. Emergency powers passed during the fake pandemic have allowed broad waivers to already weak patient rights, expressly allowing hospitals to capture patients and hold them against their wills.
_I don't think we are going to see a large drop in population in the US. These two things don't go together: 1) a large drop in population, 2) the big banks buying up rental homes. Why? Because if there is a large drop in population, the demand for rental homes will of course go way down. There will be far more homes than people, guaranteeing the banks a huge loss.

All Politics (from Communism to Capitalism) Are Controlled by the Ruling Class for the Ruling Class
http://mileswmathis.com/reed.pdf


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