Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light? If you have a personal favorite theory, that is in someway related to the Electric Universe, this is where it can be posted.
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Unread post by Lloyd » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:08 am

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JOURNALIST INTERVIEWS 3 MEDICAL WORKERS WHO GOT CHRONIC CONVULSIONS AFTER COVID SHOTS
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/160-e ... ful-letter

I added the link to that video recently to my list of Covid material at https://futureschool.webboard.org/post2.html#2

If you read some of the history papers by Miles Mathis at http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html , you might consider that there is indeed a conspiracy involving intelligence agencies, which are all interconnected and cooperate with each other by and large. The fact that virtually every country is basically cooperating on the Covid "narrative" suggests that it's true. Terrorism was the big scare before Covid came along, then suddenly there were no more terrorists.

Mathis makes a good case IMO that this ruling class is fairly expert at faking major events in order to manipulate the rest of us. The media was scaring everyone last year into thinking that Covid was causing lots of deaths and sickness, which was greatly exaggerated. This year I guess they were doubling down on those efforts to persuade everyone that the virus is more dangerous than any untested vaccines, though they're not really vaccines, since they don't make anyone immune to anything, as Allyn seems to prove.

Some medical pros and scientists are saying that the vaccines are going to kill or disable lots of people when they next get exposed to a cold or flu virus. They seem believable, but it's also possible that the ruling class is allowing them to be heard a little in order to give the public the impression that they're "crazy" when it turns out this winter that people aren't dying in droves. They could arrange that by making the vaccines less toxic temporarily. Can they do that? Maybe they can keep hiding the number and severity of the vaccine reactions for quite a while. Maybe they can sucker increasing numbers of people into getting shots and making them increasingly toxic.

Mathis says the primary motive of the ruling class appears to be greed. So whatever numbers of common people they figure they need to make themselves richer and more comfy is how many they will seek to keep alive. If they need a certain number of disabled people to make the ruling class richer by having the disabled to buy their expensive treatments, they will shoot for that too. Make sense?

PS, at my Futureschool link above I also mention what James Sloane recommended for anyone who gets Covid or who gets Covid shots. Chlorella is one for the latter.

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Unread post by JP Michael » Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:43 am

allynh wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:52 pm I got the J&J vaccine in April
I'd be checking yourself for magnetism.

The Highwire - Magnet Challenge (12 mins)
MagnetGate Part 1. (58 mins)
MagnetGate Part 2. (47 mins)
MagnetGate Part 3. (153 mins)

Remember, of course, that the MSM and "Fact-Checkers" (e.g. Forbes, Reuters, Snopes) explicitly and emphatically deny that Covax causes magnetism in humans.

I have three vaccinated co-workers. Two got AstraZeneca. One got Pfizer. All three now feel pain in the presence of my 12mm nedymium magnet as it tries to rip the flesh from their vaccinated arm (or, if stuck, crush into their flesh at 2.46 kg pulling strength - I didn't use my 15.4mm magnets with 4.2kg pulling strength as I was afraid they would be seriously injured).

MSM & "factcheckers" can shove their gaslighting firmly up their lying assholes they call a mouth.

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Unread post by Lloyd » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:14 pm

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You ended your post in an unscientific way, JP.
By the way, do they say why the injection sites attract magnets?

Having asked that, I just waded through a bunch of propaganda via Ecosia.org that pretend to debunk the claim that injection sites are magnetic. Then I found the following from PubMed. (You likely would never find this on Google and most other search engines. DuckDuckGo.com might have it though.)

Superparamagnetic nanoparticle delivery of DNA vaccine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24715289
The efficiency of delivery of DNA vaccines is often relatively low compared to protein vaccines. The use of superparamagnetic iron oxide nanoparticles (SPIONs) to deliver genes via magnetofection shows promise in improving the efficiency of gene delivery both in vitro and in vivo.

This site found the same paper, apparently and commented: https://groundzeromedia.org/5-17-21-magnetic-morph/

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Unread post by Lloyd » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:40 am

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Over 45,000 Covid Vaccine Deaths in U.S. So Far, says CDC Whistleblower
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sfgaQa5b4lIm/

A registered nurse shows that Canadian PM Trudeau and his wife faked getting covid shots
https://www.bitchute.com/video/DbrB0X1OoGbd/

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Unread post by paladin17 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:39 am

A couple of days ago I've encountered an interesting theory (from a nurse in the field): that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist per se (no one ever observed it, as far as I understand), but what actually exists (and causes the symptoms) is the spike protein itself, which is what is being directly transmitted between people.
This still leaves the question of how (whether or not?..) this protein reproduces, because if it does, as far as I understand, it would be a huge discovery on its own.
Of course, nowadays it is produced right in the bodies of all vaccinated people in the first place, so that's one possible avenue of replenishing the world's supply of this protein and continuing the pandemic. If the theory is correct.

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Unread post by Brigit » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:29 pm

by paladin17 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:39 am
"A couple of days ago I've encountered an interesting theory (from a nurse in the field): that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist per se (no one ever observed it, as far as I understand), but what actually exists (and causes the symptoms) is the spike protein itself...."


The claims that the virus has been isolated (and that the existing popular tests are highly accurate diagnoses) are not true. The virus has not in fact been purified. Five authors of papers on the "isolation" of C!9 were asked whether they had actually purified the virus, and all responded that they had not.
  • ref: Virus Mania
    Author: Samantha Bailey,Claus Köhnlein,Stefano Scoglio, Engelbrecht Torsten
  • ref: Dr. Piers Corbyn
The spike protein is an ACE 2 receptor blocker. ACE 2 receptors are on the surfaces of many cells in the human body, and are usually filled by the body's own ACE 2 ligand. If these receptors are blocked by a fake, exogenous ligand, such as this S1 protein, it interferes with the body's ability to keep its vital chemical balances.
  • ref: emails obtained by Tom Fitton of all correspondences between Dr Falsi and the W I V

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Unread post by JP Michael » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:07 pm

paladin17 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:39 am A couple of days ago I've encountered an interesting theory (from a nurse in the field): that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist per se (no one ever observed it, as far as I understand), but what actually exists (and causes the symptoms) is the spike protein itself, which is what is being directly transmitted between people.
This still leaves the question of how (whether or not?..) this protein reproduces, because if it does, as far as I understand, it would be a huge discovery on its own.
Of course, nowadays it is produced right in the bodies of all vaccinated people in the first place, so that's one possible avenue of replenishing the world's supply of this protein and continuing the pandemic. If the theory is correct.
Serious questions: how does a manufactured protein spread from person to person and cause illness? I do not question the manufacture of the protein by the vaccines, nor do I question that proteins can cause illness (snake venom is a case in point). What is the vector for this spike protein to spread from person to person and cause illness, if indeed that is what is happening?

I have far more confidence in the effectiveness of human mucosal membranes, and human skin, to keep aerosolised nanoparticulate spike protein at bay. This needs more proof.

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Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:16 pm

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CIRCULATORY SYSTEM DAMAGE
Dr. Robert F Kennedy has been warning against the Covid injections. Here's an article from June.
COVID Vaccine Spike Protein Travels From Injection Site, Can Cause Organ Damage
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defe ... an-damage/
... When the purified spike protein is injected into the blood of research animals, they experience damage to the cardiovascular system and the protein can cross the blood-brain barrier and cause damage to the brain, Bridle explained. The biodistribution study [https://www.docdroid.net/xq0Z8B0/pfizer ... rnment-pdf] obtained by Bridle shows the COVID spike protein gets into the blood where it circulates for several days post-vaccination and then accumulates in organs and tissues including the spleen, bone marrow, the liver, adrenal glands and in “quite high concentrations” in the ovaries.

REMEDIES
Several commenters say there are some nutrients that can protect from the spike proteins. Bromelain is one. My favorite health authority, James Sloane, recommends chlorella, schisandra berry, and/or trimethyl glycine (TMG) for anyone who gets an injection.

See also: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vacci ... ous-toxin/

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Unread post by paladin17 » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:05 pm

JP Michael wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:07 pm
Serious questions: how does a manufactured protein spread from person to person and cause illness? I do not question the manufacture of the protein by the vaccines, nor do I question that proteins can cause illness (snake venom is a case in point). What is the vector for this spike protein to spread from person to person and cause illness, if indeed that is what is happening?
I would assume the standard way: spreading through lungs (perhaps piggybacking on the exhaled water, and then being inhaled by other person).
But I'm not a specialist, so it may be something else.
JP Michael wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:07 pm This needs more proof.
No doubt.

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Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:58 pm

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I tried a search at Ecosia.org which seems to be an uncensored search engine. https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=%22spik ... contagious
I'll look at the results more thoroughly later.

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Unread post by JP Michael » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:33 am

paladin17 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:05 pm I would assume the standard way: spreading through lungs (perhaps piggybacking on the exhaled water, and then being inhaled by other person).
In all this are multiple unproven assumptions. This vector assumes such aerosolised spike protein particulate(s) innately bypass the mucosal barriers of nose and/or throat and/or upper/lower respiratory tract to cause illness (or, as some articles claim, via skin contact). This needs to be proven and not assumed. Alternatively, it needs to be proven that absorption of aerosolised spike protein in these sites is the specific cause of COVID-19 illness. The difficulty with this is proving that the symptoms of COVID, which are basically identical to influenza, are caused by spike protein absorption and not something else.

If we suppose a viral cause, there is an argument that the mucosal membrane site is the location of first infection (I no longer believe this fable, but I throw it out there by way of example only). But how does a protein (spike or otherwise) undertake the task of cellular hijacking and self-replication? Therefore it also needs to be proven that the aerosolised spike protein also contains mRNA or DNA instructions for its own self-replication in the contact area, or the protein itself can cause such self-replication (which may be possible, given that this protein is synthetic and may not do what the vaccine companies assert it does on the package).

Alternatives are that the mRNA/DNA jabs also code for aerosolised mRNA/DNA nanoparticulates to spread from person to person, exuded from skin or lung or whatever. But this too requires demonstration that such a mechanism is both possible and effective.

There is obfuscation on every side, and a general unwillingness to demonstrate evidence for the claims made on both sides of the COVID argument. Much has been claimed about "vaccine shedding", but where is the evidence such as what I describe above? All sides of this narrative are being managed in some way, so we need to do due diligence and test every claim, and hold fast to that which exhibits certainty.

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Unread post by paladin17 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:28 pm

JP Michael wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:33 am In all this are multiple unproven assumptions.
Hence I called it a "theory" and not a "proven fact".
I agree with your questions, but I considered the pure novelty of this theory to have enough value to share it anyway.

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Unread post by Brigit » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:32 pm

In September my husband and I have both had surgeries cancelled as a result of C19 policies.

One was because of a government agency's sudden vax requirement. It was implemented even sooner than the date line they had communicated in an email.

As for me, I would not get the PCR test. I offered any other kind of test, nasal swab, etc.; I have no symptoms at all. O2 level high, sense of smell and temperature are fine, and no congestion. But in my heart of hearts I knew I could not take a PCR. It is pathetic that the eye institute and the hospital have this PCR test requirement, because it has had its emergency use authorization withdrawn. And furthermore, PCRs cannot give a diagnosis.

I disappointed every one but looking at the nasopharyngeal procedure for the PCR convinced me that this is excessive and invasive and ineffective.
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Unread post by JP Michael » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:54 am

Brigit wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:32 pm In September my husband and I have both had surgeries cancelled as a result of C19 policies.
Not just you, Brigit, and not just in the USA.

My wife had her glaucoma specialist appointments cancelled for the same reason. We both figured it is actually because

1. Ophthalmologists have been injured by the bioweapon and are off on leave, and/or
2. Nursing staff and/or doctors have resigned due to government bioweapon orders and they are so grossly short-staffed that they're cancelling appointments.

The hospital said "because of COVID". Ha, yeah right.

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Unread post by GaryN » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:14 pm

The virus could have been stopped in its tracks if the same protocol as was used in Uttar Pradesh had been implemented world wide. Ivermectin was the primary component of their home care kit.
India's Ivermectin Blackout
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 2647b.html
I have been following this channel, very knowledgeable man and seemingly unbiased:
https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching/featured
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