Are the planets growing?

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light? If you have a personal favorite theory, that is in someway related to the Electric Universe, this is where it can be posted.
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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by spark » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:27 pm

Expansion Tectonics: Dr. Maxlow on Recent to Permian Small Earth Modeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO609uOKM2I

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by spark » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:45 am

Dual opposing electromagnetic vortex simulation leading to formation of planet and gradual expansion of the planet shell and formation of the plasma core at the center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YhzfgicebA

How to do simulation yourself in 3ds Max near the end of video.

Theory under video description:

Computer simulation proves that Hollow Planets are a perfectly reasonable theory. Planets, Moons and Suns may all be HOLLOW !!. Vortex mechanics is why water spins in the opposite direction on either side of the equator !!. A dual opposing electromagnetic/ electrostatic vortex creates a stable bubble for a solid or gaseous planet to form around. The dual vortex creates a stable static-electromagnetic plasma core that creates an Inner "gravity" which pushes the bubble into space. OuterSpace actually pushes against the electromagnetic bubble creating "gravity" on the outside of the bubble. Inner Space and Outer Space are charged forming static-electromagnetic forces on the inside and outside of all spherical planetary bodies. "Gravity" Is pushing on either side of the bubble. The Earth's atmosphere is a stable electrostatic accumulation of gases due to the constant grinding of the inner dual vortex plasma core. Because the inner and outer shells sit on either side of the electromagnetic bubble, electrical arcing and plasma's form in between the shells creating lava and earthquakes. Sudden electrical discharge between the shells creates a spark gap situation resulting in underground lightning resulting in earthquakes or tsunamis due to sudden expansion of water or other underground matter. The simulation also explains the Expanding Earth Theory. The longer the simulation progresses the bigger the vortex bubble gets (however slowly).

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by Open Mind » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:49 am

I like this guys vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qoTs7w22r4

I've been hoping for an attack on subduction. I was having a hard time finding something, but this is pretty good.

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by spark » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:04 pm

How Ridged Moons of Saturn Formed. Dual Opposing Electromagnetic Vortex Simulation in Zero Gravity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjvn4TxAKRs

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How the ridged moons of Saturn were created. Iapetus, Pan and Atlas are all ridged. Electrostatic and electromagnetic forces ie. vortices created the ridges. This simple dual vortex simulation supports it. Quantum Mechanics supports it. Gravity is a vortex well. A hurricane in space will form a sphere. Planets and stars are a result of two or more electromagnetic/static vortices hitting each other and causing consumption and accretion of surrounding matter into a sphere. The matter eventually forms into a hard shell creating a solid or gaseous planet and expands. Yes, expands, grows due to vortices continually consuming matter at the poles. (see expanding earth theory) Are planets hollow with openings at the poles?

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by allynh » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:16 pm

Thanks, spark, for the Maxlow interview.

The lecture itself is short, the Q&A is what takes most of the time. What he is saying is deeply scary.

I need to watch them all many times and keep notes of what he says and when, because there is stuff that he is saying that is obvious once he says it, but shocking in the implications.

An example:

- At the 46 minute mark he points out that sea level is actually falling, that the water in not keeping up with radius increase. As the Earth grows the continents are trying to keep their shape, so the edges are pressing down into the mantle, with the perceived shore line sinking. That at some point the continents will crack and start to flatten. Yikes! That's what you can see across Africa and North America.

I posted about the continents flattening in the old Forum. I did not realize that the coasts would appear to be sinking.

Here are the first three lectures. He plans on doing four.

Expansion Tectonics: Dr. Maxlow on Recent to Permian Small Earth Modeling

Expansion Tectonics #2: Dr. Maxlow on Permian to Archaean Small Earth Modelling

Expansion Tectonics #3: Fact or Mere Coincidence? - Dr. James Maxlow

This is a sample pdf of the book with table of contents and preface. It's not available in the US yet.

Beyond plate tectonics: Unsettling settled science - pdf

I look forward to reading it.

And thanks, Open Mind, for the, See the Pattern, link.

Some of his maps of the early Earth are wrong, but at least he is looking at the problem. He even discusses many of the EU concepts. I need to watch more of his videos. The few that I've looked at are interesting.

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Unread post by allynh » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:10 pm

This is the fourth lecture.

Expansion Tectonics Final: Fact of Mere Coincidence #2? - Dr. James Maxlow

They even mention the "See the Pattern" channel, so they may be reading this thread.

Everybody wave at David de Hilster.

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by allynh » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:33 pm

The fourth lecture finally happened. There was a mix up of time on the other one I posted. Here you go.

Expansion Tectonics: Fact of Mere Coincidence 2 with Dr. James Maxlow

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by spark » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:49 am

Our Plasma-Electromagnetic Sky Application of Hollow-Expanding-Growing-Electromagnetic Earth Hypothesis with particular respect to the Earth's Atmosphere starting from the Lithosphere and ascending Altitude
https://www.academia.edu/36753643/Our_P ... g_Altitude

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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by spark » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:41 am

Expanding Earth Series by See the Pattern:

The Origin of the Expanding Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HyZ1Ns_yKA

7 Major Problems with Plate Tectonics that point to an Expanding Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qoTs7w22r4

Polar Wander & Prehistoric Climate Change Explained by an Expanding Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yJ7uFtv_dw

Is there Evidence of Expansion on the Moons of Jupiter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h-DJAbXzuw

Saturn, Neptune & Uranus' Moons Shows the SAME signs of EXPANSION!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Nz3h6T-J0

Does the Inner Solar System Show Clear Signs of Expansion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1l8nKD42ec

What could cause the EXPANSION Process in an EXPANDING EARTH Model?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy5733Lp0mI

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... oZFMhg_F49

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Unread post by GaryN » Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:35 am

The main points of the life and scientific production of Ott Christoph Hilgenberg (1896-1976) have been reconstructed. The events took place between America and Berlin: in America from 1925 to 1928 the young Hilgenberg, with a diploma in Mechanical Engineering, worked as a Geophysicist in an oil prospecting company. It was there that he probably developed his interdisciplinary ideas, which, influenced in various ways by the European cultural climate, brought him into the field of global tectonics. He conceived a theory about the expansion of the Earth based on the nature of the gravity field.
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A Question Of Expansion Carey talk

Unread post by Chai Wallah » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:33 am

I couldn't find this video by Sam W Carey on a search of the forum , called A Question Of Expansion so posted it here
https://youtu.be/Othb0xsvZb4
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Where did all the water come from

Unread post by Chai Wallah » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:25 am

I came across this video called Where did all the water come from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=544&v=w ... e=youtu.be

Are these minerals holding water already , or is the water created in them - by the electric current of particles flowing through the Earth.
Expanding the Globe , while also releasing more water via the lava at the mid ocean ridges.

I think Lahars are evidence of how much water is released from within , & not just from melted ice on the surface. I would guess.
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Re: Are the planets growing?

Unread post by allynh » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:53 pm

A Question of Expansion is classic Carey.

Maxlow mentioned in the Expansion Tectonics lectures above that most of the water was coming from the mid ocean ridges.

Water in the crust is also why you have curved sections of the continents.

This is the old post from Forum v2.0.

Are the planets growing?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 005#p87130

The link to the main article on Science Daily still works, but the other links are broken.

This is the link as pdf.

New ultra-high resolution picture of Earth’s gravity field
http://ddfe.curtin.edu.au/gravitymodels ... ravity.pdf

This is the directory with the various jpgs
http://ddfe.curtin.edu.au/gravitymodels ... s/gallery/

The areas of major earthquakes are associated with the difference in color. The electrical charge changes the orientation of the water dipole in the rock, flipping the direction of gravity, just like in clouds. When that electrical charge is reduced the crust collapses causing earthquakes.

- North America is curved up to a mile, with the mountains going up from there.

- South America is curved up to two miles, with the mountains going up from there.

- China is curved up three miles, with the mountains going up from there.

- Africa is flat, most of it below a mile.

Over time, as the charge bleeds away, those gravity variations will all move to an even blue, and the elevations will drop. All of the continents will look like Africa.

As an aside, water in the crust is also the source for most oil and gas production, based on the abiotic process of water moving through rock under pressure.

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Unread post by JP Michael » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:08 am

allynh wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:53 pm This is the old post from Forum v2.0.

Are the planets growing?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 005#p87130

The link to the main article on Science Daily still works, but the other links are broken.
All the 'broken' links are accessible via archive.org's Wayback Machine.

Just copy the 'broken' link into the Wayback Machine search line and select a suitable snapshot.

E.g. (first link): https://web.archive.org/web/20160324115 ... _large.jpg

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Unread post by D_Archer » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:01 am

New study of Earth's crust shows global growth spurt three billion years ago:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 085411.htm

Summary: Researchers have used ancient crystals from eroded rocks found in stream sediments in Greenland to successfully test the theory that portions of Earth's ancient crust acted as 'seeds' from which later generations of crust grew.
a planet-wide crustal growth spurt three billion years ago when mantle temperatures peaked.
Three-billion-year-old magmas from the mantle had penetrated even more ancient four-billion-year-old crust to create rocks of mixed composition.
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Not really surprising discovery, of course the crust grew. the first state was molten and then it cooled (or grew).

The never proved the seed part they just found the growth spurt and the mixing of older and newer crust. I do not think you need a seed.

You have hot magma and a cool ocean on top, this allows the cooling of the crust. And it happened in spurts or phases... like cooling and or threshold phases... food for thought.

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