Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
kmcook
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by kmcook » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:20 am

Again, I ask what has topic to do with EU?
There exist many Anti-Vax forums elsewhere where these comments can be carried.
I think conducting this discussion here reduces the credibility of the Forum.


Here's one of the reviews of that book:

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As a biomedical student who has been heavily interested in the vaccine debate, I am shocked and disgusted at how many people think this is a good book. Miller misrepresents many studies, does not cite figures (and in the thimerosal chapter, routinely makes false claims about Mercury, clearly not understanding basic chemistry, and does not include the dosages that studies used. The dose makes the poison. Many bad studies overdose test subjects to get a preconceived result) and also cites several retracted, debunked 'scientists' and 'doctors' who can no longer practise (in the first 63 pages, there are SIXTEEN studies from Geier, a man who lost his licence, and uses chemical castration on autistic boys. Lovely.)

His chapter on measles is a trainwreck; claiming vaccine strains can infect other people by misrepresenting how DNA and RNA fragments are detected during outbreaks to ELIMINATE recently vaccinated people from measles case figures. He writes that wild measles can help cure cancer, citing several research papers that are in their infancy, ironically using the attenuated VACCINE strain.

This book breeds scientific ignorance. It breeds ignorance on chemistry, on biology, on basic microbiology and virology.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jacmac » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:42 pm

kmcook:
Again, I ask what has topic to do with EU?
There exist many Anti-Vax forums elsewhere where these comments can be carried.
I think conducting this discussion here reduces the credibility of the Forum.
I totally agree with the above from kmcook.
I have placed my comment above to put my views on the public record.
End of discussion by me on this topic.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brent72 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 am

kmcook wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:20 am
Again, I ask what has topic to do with EU?
There exist many Anti-Vax forums elsewhere where these comments can be carried.
I think conducting this discussion here reduces the credibility of the Forum.
Could you argue that the science (or lack thereof) behind the world's response to Covid19, is yet another example of mainstream science being subservient to political ideology ..?

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:08 pm

Brent72 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 am
kmcook wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:20 am
Again, I ask what has topic to do with EU?
There exist many Anti-Vax forums elsewhere where these comments can be carried.
I think conducting this discussion here reduces the credibility of the Forum.
Could you argue that the science (or lack thereof) behind the world's response to Covid19, is yet another example of mainstream science being subservient to political ideology ..?
That's entirely reasonable.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by JP Michael » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:04 pm

jacmac wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:57 pm
*snip*
Some thoughts from someone who is not vaccinated for COVID-19 in the slightest (and never will be).

My personal knowledge:
1. My wife's church friend, 31 years old female with a newborn. Dead 2 days after second dose of Pfizer - heart attack.
2. My workmate's unvaccinated cousin, 30-something super fit and healthy bloke. Got flu-like COVID illness, hospitalised, family requested ivermectin treatment, denied, was administered Remdesivir and died of multiple organ failure after sedation and intubation. Family is suing for medical malpractice resulting in death.
3. Another workmate - 40s, unvaccinated. Got flu-like COVID illness, hospitalised. Made full recovery with no long term health effects.
4. Another workmate - 60s, vaccinated 2x AstraZeneca, suffered severe neurological problems resulting in hospitalisation for more than a month. Still has not returned to work after 3 months.
5. Another workmate - 50s, vaccinated 2x AstraZeneca, suffered crippling pain in neck and right arm ten days after second dose resulting in specialist treatment. Got vaccinated to save his job and never wanted the poison. Still has not returned to work after more than 2 months.
6. Another workmate - 50s, vaccinated 1x Pfizer. Within a week he had respiratory-flu-like COVID illness symptoms and was admitted to hospital for COVID for 2 weeks. Survived and recovered with no currently-apparent long-term health impact.
7. Above workmates's wife - 50s, unvaccinated, came down with flu-like COVID illness at the same time as her husband. Hospitalised, survived and made a full recovery with no long-term health impact.
8. Church friend - 40s, unvaccinated. Got flu-like COVID illness, along with two of her unvaccinated 20-something sons. All home quarrantined. All made full recoveries with no long term health effects.
9. Church friend - 50s, unvaccinated. Got flu-like COVID illness, home quarrantined and made full recovery with no long-term health effects.
10. Church friend - 50s, 2x Pfizer. Got flu-like COVID illness about a month after her second dose. Home quarrantined and made a recovery. Continues to have long term health effects (respiratory and psychological).

Summary - anecdotes go every way and prove little without expert clinical analysis of their respective aetiologies. Then again, I am not personally aware of a vaccinated person who died after contracting COVID, neither am I aware of an unvaccinated person who has done so without the accompanying accusation of medical malpractice.

What is more telling is usually how the stories are cherry-picked to suit the author's preconceived biases (like how kmcook cherry-picked one negative review amongst thousands of varying opinions of Neil Miller's most recent book). Hardly a balanced perspective.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:58 am

Brent72 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 am
Could you argue that the science (or lack thereof) behind the world's response to Covid19, is yet another example of mainstream science being subservient to political ideology ..?
If not political ideology, then wealth, prestige and power.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:21 am

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92 research studies affirm that naturally acquired immunity is equal to or superior to existing vaccines
https://www.sott.net/article/460024-92- ... g-vaccines

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer's vaccine trial
https://www.sott.net/article/460221-Cov ... cine-trial

Preventing and Treating Chronic COVID and COVID Vaccine Complications
https://www.sott.net/article/460350-Pre ... plications
_COVID spike protein [cause blood cells to clump, which causes oxygen starvation].
_Spike protein can be neutralized by a daily multi-gram dosing of vitamin C.
_5 grams of liposome-encapsulated vitamin C can be given daily for at least a week.
https://nakapro.com/products/bonus-size ... omal-c1000
_The FORMULA-216TM dietary supplement contains an extract from olives that was shown in a prior published study to double blood levels of vitamin C without dietary or supplemental intake of vitamin C.
- http://formula216.com/pill-maintain-vit ... g-promise/
- https://formula216.com/

Vaccine injury stories pour in after Israeli mom launches project to expose untold suffering
https://www.sott.net/article/460434-Vac ... -suffering

New VAERS analysis reveals hundreds of serious adverse events that the CDC and FDA never told us about
https://www.sott.net/article/460583-New ... d-us-about

Is vaccine efficacy a statistical illusion?
https://www.sott.net/article/460884-Goo ... l-illusion

Higher infection rates in vaccinated
https://www.sott.net/article/461292-Hig ... ysis-shows

Hard data shows the COVID vaccines don't work
https://www.sott.net/article/461392-Har ... -dont-work

Study shows breakthrough COVID-19 infections in vaccinated
https://www.sott.net/article/461431-Stu ... ompromised

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:38 pm

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There is no such thing as a "confirmed Covid-19 case". There is no pandemic
https://www.sott.net/article/461291-Fak ... o-pandemic

Spike protein increases heart attacks and destroys immune ​system
https://www.sott.net/article/461467-Spi ... une-system

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:18 pm

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BATCHES OF VACCINES VARY IN TOXICITY; SOME ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC
I posted this link recently, to a video about this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/659ZYokqseru/

I just found a paper that has the data organized so that it's easier to read and maybe to understand. Here's the link:
https://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf

WINNING COURT CASE
Covid Vaccination-WIN in local case; new court orders!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EOkxWNkzX9FQ/

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:01 pm

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Pseudo-epidemics: Tests and the Rise of Disease Panic
https://www.sott.net/article/461803-Pse ... ease-Panic

You will NEVER be 'fully vaccinated'
https://www.sott.net/article/461961-You ... vaccinated

New study finds the Covid-19 vaccine is to blame for 98% of cases of myocarditis among children
https://www.sott.net/article/461990-New ... g-children

Baby of 'fully vaccinated' mom dies after born bleeding from mouth, nose: VAERS report
https://www.sott.net/article/462036-Bab ... ERS-report

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:58 pm

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Young Athletes Dying After COVID-19 Vaccine
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021 ... 9-vaccine/
_The American Journal of Roentgenology published ... “A study in young athletes with confirmed COVID-19 showed that a substantial proportion of individuals had subclinical myocarditis on screening cardiac MRI”.
_Good Sciencing compiled the following list to honor athletes who have lost their lives due to forced vaccinations: ... nearly 300 athletes have experienced cardiac arrest and over 167 have died. [See link above.]

Do The Fact-Checkers Actually Care About The Facts?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/LGORktODO4ac/

Report links ballooning fatalities to "specific batches" of the Covid-19 vaccine
- https://www.sott.net/article/462238-Rep ... 19-vaccine
- https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/10/31/100-p ... -produced/

SHOCKING # of reports of Memory loss, aphasia, confusion, blackouts, tremors, etc. in VAERS after Covid vax
https://www.bitchute.com/video/69CNSEL3HPln/

Some more interesting Bitchute titles:
VAERS 4hrs Many Miscarriages & Stillbirths After COVID Vax Reported
BUSTED! CDC OVERCOUNTS MILIONS OF DEPOP SHOTS!
ROTHSCHILD PATENTED COVID-19 BIOMETRIC TESTS IN 2015 AND 2017
Is pine needle tea the answer to covid vaccine shedding, transmission. Learn about suramin, shikimi
FOIA confirms jab deadly: Pfizer & FDA hiding bioweapon deaths
Vaccinated patent extermination of human life must see
Lethal drug included in over the counter COVID test kits - sodium azide

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by GaryN » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:41 pm

While omicron explodes around the world, covid cases in Japan keep plummeting and no one knows exactly why

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wh ... ar-AAS34PH

Dr. John Campbell on Youtube
Ivermectin in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g

The graph curve of infection rate is practically identical to that of Anwar Pradesh after their Ivermectin campaign:

Home ivermectin based kits in India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3Rydc&t=52s

Pennies a dose and one of the safest medications ever. Follow the money...
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Cargo » Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:26 am

The same problem occurs in several sciences. The money dictates the research for results expected by the money. Results which do not match the money are discarded or worse vilified. Those who speak against the money and for reality results are burned and cursed.

The clear zealotry kowtow for the 'mainstream' covid narrative is evidence enough. It is a mass public hypnotic delusion trance. The science as we know it is crystal clear. The 'virus' is engineered, and is enhanced to be corona-aids. The 'vaccines' we're created to do the same thing. Get rid of the weak/old and medically bind the herd to endless booster shots. Global takeover of your life and money is a side-effect, but totally intended.

So why is the Rome Declaration, countless 1st person testimonies of medical and industrial malpractice, crimes against humanity. not 'front-page news'.
Because we are in the full-blown They Live, Minority Report, 1984 times. Seriously. Just look at all the masks on faces.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:35 pm

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INCREDULITY
It amazes me how forgetful or maybe unconscious the general public in the U.S. seems to be. Before Covid all of the governments of the world were supposedly divided against each other, some making great threats against others. E.g., some Muslim groups were supposedly threatening to attack other countries and sometimes carrying out such threats. Then Covid occurred and division among governments/countries suddenly vanished. They all got on board the anti-Covid bandwagon, putting the same kinds of restrictions on their citizens and businesses and institutions and unreservedly accepting the W.H.O.'s unscientific recommendations, including dangerous medical practices for testing and treating Covid and wildly experimental vaccines for all of their citizens. People in the U.S. supposedly had a very low opinion of politicians, but when the media make it look like scientists and health authorities and political leaders around the world are united in their claims about Covid and vaccines, somehow the politicians (and the media) become believable.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by KTMKim » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:10 pm

Lloyd wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:35 pm
17013

INCREDULITY
It amazes me how forgetful or maybe unconscious the general public in the U.S. seems to be.
You’re speaking my language Lloyd. Plain and simple.

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