Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by allynh » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:09 pm

I still have the same two question that I had when the Pandemic started.

- How many people caught Covid.

- How many people who caught Covid died from Covid.

After all this time we still do not know the answers to those key questions, and we never will because of the incentives by hospitals to claim Covid cases.

The government pays hospitals $50k for every Covid patient they have, and that is above and beyond the actual billable costs generated by the care.

The government does that to ensure the hospital can cover costs from all of the people they can't treat normally. They were turning away paying patients and were about to go under, so the government is paying the $50k per covid patient to help support hospitals.

BTW, The suppression and demonization of Ivermectin information is astonishing. The link I gave on page three to the DarkHorse podcast is scary. Youtube blocked the video despite it being solid science.

To have everybody claiming that Ivermectin is simply "horse de-wormer" is crazy. It has been used to fight parasites all over the world for over forty years. It was declared by WHO that Ivermectin was one of the top essential drugs in the world.

It is used routinely in retirement homes when there is an outbreak of scabies. They give it to everyone in the facility, and to the families, so that they can stop the outbreak.

BTW, my arm still hurts at the injection site(I got the J&J vaccine). The pain isn't all day long, but it hits everyday. It's hurting right now as I type.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by JP Michael » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:15 am

allynh wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:09 pm
- How many people caught Covid.
Stanford epidemiologist John Ioannidis estimates that the figure is somewhere in the figure of 1.5 to 2 billion. [LINK] See also his other article, "Over- and under-estimation of COVID-19 Deaths" [LINK]
allynh wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:09 pm
- How many people who caught Covid died from Covid.
A CDC study answered that some time ago, although this data set probably needs updating now. Something like 94% of COVID deaths had other co-morbidities, with quite a high average of four (4!) co-morbidities (e.g. dementia, cancer, renal failure, pneumonia, influenza etc). Only some 6% of deaths were officially recorded to be "from COVID" only with no other underlying condition.

One thing I have had to come to terms with, both anecdotal experience and professional medical testimony, is that there is some kind of inexplicable global illness affecting people, sometimes severely. The cause is publicly attributed to a "virus" but I think that can very reasonably be disputed. I believe it to be toxicological in nature because 1. it always affects the nasopharengeal/lungs area first, and 2. a true "virus" in the traditional sense is unlikely to discriminate against specific age groups - people under the age of 30 (and especially 0-18) are basically unaffected by the condition. A true biological entity such as a contagious "virus" would by no means discriminate against the young in this way - their lungs should be equally affected as anyone else, but this is not the case. A toxicological agent, however, may be offset by various proteins, vitamins and nutrients that are abundant in the young but greatly diminished in the old (especially those being cared for in homes with extremely poor nutritional intake). I cannot see how the aetiological agent can possibly be a "virus" when so few children are affected by it and the average COVID age of death (at least in Australa) is 86 years old.

One last thing: if you've been vaccinated I would definitely recommend taking ivermectin or some other anti-parasitic agent due to the immense contamination (deliberate or otherwise) of the vials - some truly disgusting things are being reported under microscopic analysis of those substances and you really don't want them living in your blood. Examples here and here. Note that the entities in these videos are microscopic in size, therefore they cannot be attributed to nanotech particles such as lipid-encapsulated mRNA, which should be 1000x smaller.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:43 am

by allynh » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:09 pm
"BTW, The suppression and demonization of Ivm infromation is astonishing. The link I gave on page three to the DarkHorse podcast is scary. Youtube blocked the video despite it being solid science...It has been used to fight parasites all over the world for over forty years. It was declared by WHO that Ivermectin was one of the top essential drugs in the world."

It was hard to see at the time, but in order for the fda to legally issue the emergency use authorization for the investigational vac., there couldn't be any possible effective treatments available for the illness. That is why any treatments for c19 -- esp. off patent, over-the-counter pharmaceuticals -- were attacked so universally by the press and the interested parties.

Now we find ourselves in a continual situation where any one who tests positive or who actually is sick with a respiratory infection is told to go home and isolate for ten days. And since doctors do not treat this illness (because they are told there is no treatment), the infected person can only check into a hospital when they get very ill and the disease has progressed to the point that they are perhaps not getting enough oxygen.

This has been pointed out by Dr. Peter McCullough in his testimony to the Texas Senate.
ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM
19 min.

By the time a person is hospitalized, there are fewer options for treatment. In fact, it appears that the protocol that hospitals are following is to put the person on a ventilator! Intubation is an invasive and dangerous procedure and itself results in lung damage and greater risk of pneumonia. ref: See VILI and VALI on wikipedia.

Legally you can still request a treatment (such as the ones Dr. McCullough has identified) in outpatient care, but once you are admitted to the hospital it is no longer allowed.

ps I'm sorry about your arm allynh.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by crawler » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:31 pm

I notice (a week ago) that theusofa had 723,000 deaths / 333,500,000 pop = 1 in 461. Australia had 1,448 / 25,900,000 = 1 in 17,900. And 17,900/461 = 38.8. So if theusofa had Australia's mid-bunch rate the usofa's deaths would be only 18,630, instead of 723,000. Interesting.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by allynh » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:56 pm

Brigit wrote:ps I'm sorry about your arm allynh.
Ha! As soon as I read that, I felt pain in the injection site.

Wow, the McCullough video is scary. I never saw that.

Thanks...

Check YouTube about Joe Rogan getting Covid and them using everything to get over it and you will see the push back on anyone saying that there is treatment. There are plenty of videos about the bizarre lies told about him by big companies.

This is a compilation:

Media mocking Joe Rogan & lying about Ivermectin for straight two minutes : Grabien Supercut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A11TWCXcIpY

There are plenty of clips by Rogan that go into detail.

What is disturbing is how YouTube will put Covid links on any video that mentions anything outside the "consensus". As a fan of "Fringe" ideas, I cherish seeing attacks that are so bizarre that they prove that there is blatant suppression. Follow the money.

Read the book:

Evil Geniuses by Kurt Andersen.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:15 pm

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This browser, unlike Google and most others, will actually find alternative sources of info, if you use the right words, like "vaccine injured".
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=vaccine+injured

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Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:52 pm

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I meant Search Engine. This one https://duckduckgo.com/ also brings up alternative info, instead of just mainstream BS.

Bitchute at https://www.bitchute.com/ is kind of anti-mainstream. It has a lot of alternative info on Covid.

Here's a sample.
MILITARY DOCTOR: "THE COVID VACCINE PROGRAM HAS KILLED MORE YOUNG ACTIVE DUTY PEOPLE THAN COVID"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k3gYgcCms8kG/

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Brigit » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:39 am

by allynh » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:56 pm
"Brigit wrote:
ps I'm sorry about your arm allynh.
Ha! As soon as I read that, I felt pain in the injection site."

I don't know why that is happening, but I do know one other person who has continued to feel some pain in the shoulder.


PS, Sen. Rand Paul also testified to the Senate that hospitals are refusing to treat patients who are admitted with C19 with known pharmaceuticals or other treatments, such as monoclonal antibodies. Dr. McCullough is right, this is extremely unusual as a national response to a viral infection.
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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:31 pm

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CURE FOR COVID SHOTS

James Sloane is the most knowledgeable person I know on health matters. He has a private Facebook group called Science Based Natural Healing at https://www.facebook.com/groups/560297341529556/

He advises against getting Covid shots but has said that anyone who does get them can neutralize the side effects by taking Chlorella, Schisandra Berry powder, and/or TMG, i.e. Trimethyl Glycine. Many health food stores have one or more of those. Also, online sites such as Vitacost.com have them.

Someone in a group that discusses Miles Mathis' sites said bromelain, a digestive enzyme also available from health food sources, neutralizes Covid shots. I trust Sloane's info more, but that could nonetheless be true too.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:00 pm

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Alarming Increase in Mortality Rates in 2021: Why COVID Shots Are Disproportionately Affecting Young Males (For Now)
https://www.sott.net/article/461011-Ala ... es-For-Now

Pfizer whistleblower sinks vaccine trial integrity
https://www.sott.net/article/460894-Pfi ... -integrity

Erasing Natural Immunity
https://www.sott.net/article/460756-Era ... l-Immunity

Negative vaccine effectiveness isn't a new phenomenon - it turned up in the Swine Flu vaccine
https://www.sott.net/article/460872-Neg ... lu-vaccine

Is vaccine efficacy a statistical illusion?
https://www.sott.net/article/460884-Goo ... l-illusion

Your vaccination status is temporary - boosters are shifting the goalpost
https://www.sott.net/article/460937-You ... e-goalpost

German physician says Corona vaccines are 'programmed self-destruction of the body'
https://www.sott.net/article/460979-Ger ... f-the-body

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:13 am

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SOME OF THE M-RNA INJECTIONS KILL
(Most vaccine batches produce little or no adverse reactions or deaths, but some batches are highly toxic. VAERS data is shown as proof.)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/659ZYokqseru/

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:23 pm

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(I'm reposting this link) Most batches of vaccines seem fairly harmless, but some batches are extremely deadly, as shown from VAERS data
https://www.bitchute.com/video/659ZYokqseru/
I assume it's part of the plan to progressively increase the percentage of highly toxic batches, so the JTB can continue to snow the public, while increasing the genocide

Africa avoids COVID disaster despite [BECAUSE OF] not having vaccines
https://www.sott.net/article/461071-Sci ... g-vaccines

alarming spike in Covid deaths post-vaccination
https://www.sott.net/article/461073-New ... accination

you double your risk of cardiac incidents and the rate of stillborn babies is up by 29 times (but only if you are vaccinated)
https://www.sott.net/article/461149-Lat ... he-vaccine

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by jacmac » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:57 pm

Some thoughts from someone who is fully vaccinated.

Here is a brief summary of successful use of vaccines to improve
the health of our populations in our recent past.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/di ... eases.html
Here is a brief history of smallpox and its eradication.
https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html

If the Covid pandemic is not real, do you believe the vaccination histories above are also not real,
or that those efforts were not a good idea ?

My personal knowledge:
1. Neighbors next door: Got Covid, in spite of being vaccinated and careful.
had aches and discomfort for a few days, fully recovered, back to normal life
after about 10 days self quarantine.
2. Neighbor on other side: No vaccine. Got Covid in spite of taking many alternative preventive substances.
Kept getting worse. Went to hospital after being completely unable to function. Almost died(by his own account).
Trying to recover now at home, with oxygen; may have permanent lung damage.
3. My personal primary care Dr. also works in a hospital Covid ward. He reported he was getting tired of seeing so many people die.
4. I personally know the head of the public health department of my county to be a very smart, caring, capable person. I fully
trust her judgment of what is good social practice to restrict the spread of Covid.

Some alternative medicines or compounds MAY help people in small numbers here and there, but people responsible for our public health
need to focus on vaccines and medications that help lots of people almost all the time.
Otherwise, our Covid related problems would be MUCH worse.

To those people who think mask mandates violate their personal rights.
Of course they do, but for a good reason.
Why the hell do you drive on the right side of the road in this country ?
Does that MANDATE not also violate your personal freedom ???
Wake up ! Stop being a wimp. Do what you can to reduce the spread of Covid.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by perpetual motion » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:05 am

Well I see that most or all the people that are possibly brain dead on this item that mainstream
is pushing down everyones throat, that no one has actually looked up the definition of Vaccine.
This mumbo jumbo that this is a (vaccine) is a down right filthy lie!
The flu shot is not a vaccine.
The shingles shot is not a vaccine.
Any other so called Virus vaccine is totally absurd.

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Re: Science during the Supposed Pandemic

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:03 am

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JacMac, no vaccine has been proven to be safe or effective, according to Neil Z Miller's research in his book, Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? All of the diseases claimed to have been reduced by vaccines were already on a downward slide due to improved sanitation and nutrition. The vaccines did not improve the stats. His newest book seems to be Review of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized for Parents and Researchers, reviewed at https://www.amazon.com/Millers-Review-C ... 188121740X
The scientific studies of vaccines are pretty pathetic. They generally only follow up on vaccine volunteers for a few months before the FDA facetiously considers them safe.

I think it's naive to trust the establishment, considering what we know about how science has been dumbed down in the last century in opposition to alternatives such as Electric Universe theory. The ruling class (special interests) obviously largely control the narrative of science and that includes health science. The public is getting increasingly sick and lifespan is decreasing.

The so-called Covid vaccines are totally unlike any former vaccine and don't improve "immunity" in the least. The CDC and FDA are government agencies controlled by the ruling class. They have a lot of experience providing false claims to the public. The Covid vaccines have caused more deaths than all previous vaccines combined, at least 30,000 in the U.S. officially, according to VAERS, which is only the tip of the iceberg. It's estimated that there are several times more actual adverse reactions than VAERS reports.

And if you'd see the video I linked above you could see how some of the batches of Covid vaccines are highly toxic and deadly, while most batches are relatively safe, at least in the short run. So they're apparently intentionally contaminating those batches for their experiment.

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