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Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:18 pm

Planks blackbody equation might be right only for blackbody radiation, where ambient light goes in a blackbox through a tiny hole and gets absorbed and reemmited by the blackbody material, and this process happens many times until it gets out. So probably all light that gets out of that stupid blackbox has the same amplitude and thats why that constant h appears.

But it is wrong to attribute it to EM waves in general, because its illogical to assume every EM wave is emmited by a blackbody through a tiny hole, and because it has no amplitude. And energy is proportional with the amplitude squared.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by Jaaanosik » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:31 pm

There are experiments, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_pack ... scattering
Whatever photons are, their models need to explain experiments.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:50 am

mariuslvasile wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:46 am
crawler wrote:But, if Planck was correct that amplitude is not needed, then that shows that whatever it is that he is talking about (& i say that he is talking about photons)(whether he knows it or knot) is not a wave (ergo: photons are not waves).
But he was clearly talking about EM waves, which shows he was just stupid because to think of a wave without amplitude is just stupid.

And if aether exists, then light is a wave in the aether and it makes no sense to think of it as a particle.
The aether is the medium for light WAVES, it has nothing to do with light particles aka photons.
I think you are the only one who combines them and I dont understand why would you do that. Especially since you seem to oppose einstein's physics, and want the aether to return, but on the other hand you cling on to the very concept which made the aether leave- which is the photon.
(1) Light might be a wave in/of the aether.
(2) Light might be a particle, needing zero aether.
(3) Light might be a particle in/of the aether.
I go for (3). The photon/particle being a peculiar thing. It is moreso a non-thing. It is (partly) a hole in the aether, where aether is annihilated. A photon has a certain length, but an infinite width.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:46 am

crawler wrote:But, if Planck was correct that amplitude is not needed, then that shows that whatever it is that he is talking about (& i say that he is talking about photons)(whether he knows it or knot) is not a wave (ergo: photons are not waves).
But he was clearly talking about EM waves, which shows he was just stupid because to think of a wave without amplitude is just stupid.

And if aether exists, then light is a wave in the aether and it makes no sense to think of it as a particle.
The aether is the medium for light WAVES, it has nothing to do with light particles aka photons.
I think you are the only one who combines them and I dont understand why would you do that. Especially since you seem to oppose einstein's physics, and want the aether to return, but on the other hand you cling on to the very concept which made the aether leave- which is the photon.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:30 am

Cargo wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:42 am What in the bloody hell wave as we caused here?
amplitude is..[znip].. the energy of the wave which is directly proportional with the square of its amplitude ?

2. If amplitude does not exist, then the wave does not exist.
And we've completely gone into never never land.
I did not say that amplitude is...the energy of the wave. You are misquoting me by fragmenting the post making it unintelligible, and I dont understand what's the point of this.
This is my original post:
mariuslvasile wrote:1. If amplitude is not important, then why would every physics book say it is, as it amplifies the energy of the wave which is directly proportional with the square of its amplitude ?

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:38 pm

mariuslvasile wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:07 am
crawler wrote:I did not realise that Planck was referring to em waves, i thort he was referring to photons.
Well maybe you should document more before contradicting others on topics that 'you think' you know. Plank was not reffering to photons, just Einstein was reffering to them when he 'explained' the photoelectric effect by treating light as a particle that was a wave in itself, and used Plank's EM wave equation to calculate the energy of his particle-wave non-sense. Frankly I think Einstein was completely insane, and Tesla thought too as well. Thats why he called him a curly haired crackpot.
Waves (eg em waves) of course depend on amplitude (re energy etc).
Well tell that to Plank, who of course ignored amplitude because he was ignorant of basic wave physics. Not only did he not deserve a Nobel, he did not deserve to finish highschool. And Einstein too.
But, if Planck was correct that amplitude is not needed, then that shows that whatever it is that he is talking about (& i say that he is talking about photons)(whether he knows it or knot) is not a wave (ergo: photons are not waves).

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by Cargo » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:42 am

What in the bloody hell wave as we caused here?
amplitude is..[znip].. the energy of the wave which is directly proportional with the square of its amplitude ?

2. If amplitude does not exist, then the wave does not exist.
And we've completely gone into never never land.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:07 am

crawler wrote:I did not realise that Planck was referring to em waves, i thort he was referring to photons.
Well maybe you should document more before contradicting others on topics that 'you think' you know. Plank was not reffering to photons, just Einstein was reffering to them when he 'explained' the photoelectric effect by treating light as a particle that was a wave in itself, and used Plank's EM wave equation to calculate the energy of his particle-wave non-sense. Frankly I think Einstein was completely insane, and Tesla thought too as well. Thats why he called him a curly haired crackpot.
Waves (eg em waves) of course depend on amplitude (re energy etc).
Well tell that to Plank, who of course ignored amplitude because he was ignorant of basic wave physics. Not only did he not deserve a Nobel, he did not deserve to finish highschool. And Einstein too.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:12 am

galaxy12 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am I am more of a visual person. Do you guys have images with descriptions that you can post to help explain your theories? I really hate math and I don't want to have to learn new terminology. I am just trying to find the theories that are simplest and accurate. Thanks.
My stuff has nearnuff zero math.
But for nice diagrams have a look at J G Williamsons papers re his atomic model (its a bit like my model).
And Conrad Ranzan has some drawings in his papers (see his cellular universe website).

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by galaxy12 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am

I am more of a visual person. Do you guys have images with descriptions that you can post to help explain your theories? I really hate math and I don't want to have to learn new terminology. I am just trying to find the theories that are simplest and accurate. Thanks.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:49 am

galaxy12 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 pmCrawler states "My own aether theory of photons answers all questions (or can)(i think)."

Cool. I love theories on electromagnetic waves. Please tell us what an electromagnetic wave is based on your theory.
If u do a search on this forum for photaeno then u will see my postings/comments re photaeno drag & photaeno congestion.
But i dont have a lot to say about em radiation. Three kinds i think. Charge. Magnetism. Magnetic waves (radio waves).

U might as well also do a search for my elektons, & for my elekticity. Then u will be getting closer to what i think, closer to reality. It all fits so nicely. I must be a genius.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:43 am

mariuslvasile wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:59 pmHe can do this on his own thread, but as far as I can see all he does is ipse dixit, he does not prove anything that he claims. He just postulates this and that, and expects to be taken seriously.
Do u reckon that it has been proven that electrons orbit a nucleus?
Do u reckon that it has been proven that photons are waves?
Postulates are more important than proofs. A proof of a postulate usually needs an additional say 10 postulates (that are hardly ever mentioned). In any case there is no such thing as a proof.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by crawler » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:35 am

crawler wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:17 pm I reckon that Planck tells us that (1) amplitude is not important, or, (2) that amplitude duznt exist.
mariuslvasile wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:12 am Well can you give a quote from Plank at least, instead of guessing what you think he says ?
1. If amplitude is not important, then why would every physics book say it is, as it amplifies the energy of the wave which is directly proportional with the square of its amplitude ?
2. If amplitude does not exist, then the wave does not exist. Because the wave becomes a straight line with no crests and throughs. This is basic wave physics, how on earth can you even imagine a wave without amplitude ? And keep in mind Plank's equation E=hf was developed for EM waves, not for photon particles. Einstein took his wave energy equation and applied it to his particle-wave photons.
I did not realise that Planck was referring to em waves, i thort he was referring to photons. Waves (eg em waves) of course depend on amplitude (re energy etc).
My photon theory is ok with (2).
mariuslvasile wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:12 amYes, because your photon does not exist (as a wave) so of course its amplitude does not exist either. But Einstein defined his photon as a particle-WAVE !! And a wave by definition must have an amplitude ! I am not debunking your photon quasi particle hole in an aether donut theory here. And as I said you should not name it a photon, because a photon is not what you say it is, its what Einstein said it is. And its a complete non-sense and pseudo scientific bullshit.
I am not sure what to think re the name photon (ie Einstein's photon)(& my photon). My photon is certainly not a wave.
But allow me to sneak in a bit of my theory which is not entirely off topic. I say that an atom consists of photons orbiting a nucleus (not electrons orbiting a nucleus). And, i say that conductors have photons hugging their surface, these huggons flying around at the speed of light. So, photons impacting a surface bump (can bump) huggons off the surface. The huggons, when they jump off the surface, form loops (they bite their own tail), & we call (can call) these looped photons (free) electrons. Free electrons can live on a surface, in which case they are still free electrons (what we call static electricity).

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:12 am

crawler wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:17 pm I reckon that Planck tells us that (1) amplitude is not important, or, (2) that amplitude duznt exist.
Well can you give a quote from Plank at least, instead of guessing what you think he says ?

1. If amplitude is not important, then why would every physics book say it is, as it amplifies the energy of the wave which is directly proportional with the square of its amplitude ?

2. If amplitude does not exist, then the wave does not exist. Because the wave becames a straight line with no crests and throughs. This is basic wave physics, how on earth can you even imagine a wave without amplitude ? And keep in mind Plank's equation E=hf was developed for EM waves, not for photon particles. Einstein took his wave energy equation and applied it to his particle-wave photons.
My photon theory is ok with (2).
Yes, because your photon does not exist (as a wave) so of course its amplitude does not exist either. But Einstein defined his photon as a particle-WAVE !! And a wave by definition must have an amplitude ! I am not debunking your photon quasi particle hole in an aether donut theory here. And as I said you should not name it a photon, because a photon is not what you say it is, its what Einstein said it is. And its a complete non-sense and pseudo scientific bullshit.

Re: Plank's constant is quantised BULLSHIT- just like Einstein's photon which is based on it

by mariuslvasile » Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:59 pm

galaxy12 wrote:The concept of the photon was a mistake due to a misunderstanding of the photoelectric effect. The photoelectric effect shows that specific frequencies of electromagnetic waves resonate with specific substances. Each material has its own resonant frequencies based on bond length and other factors. The photoelectric effect does not prove the existence of a photon as a discrete particle. There is no reason to use calculations that assume the photon has a specific energy level.
I 100% agree, the explanation for the photoelectric effect is very simple and its based on resonance, but what can you expect from a guy who didnt even understand refraction properly, like Einstein and his Nobel coleagues ?

Those people would say that ultrasounds are particles, not waves, because they they can break glass and stones.
galaxy12 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 pm Crawler states "My own aether theory of photons answers all questions (or can)(i think)."

Cool. I love theories on electromagnetic waves. Please tell us what an electromagnetic wave is based on your theory.
He can do this on his own thread, but as far as I can see all he does is ipse dixit, he does not prove anything that he claims. He just postulates this and that, and expects to be taken seriously.

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