by Birt_Bonkers » Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:24 am
Thanks galaxy12 for the detailed input. I ask because I really liked the LMH model, but I am also quite compelled by the EU model due to the filamentary structure of the universe etc, galaxy rotation problems etc. Yet, although I know Robitaille has presented at EU conferences he is clearly not, himself, advocating EU, and his model looks very incompatible with it because the electric sun shares a gaseous plasma structure with the SSM. In my mind, I'm still have problems separating EU from the electric sun model, but I suppose they can/should be treated as separate hypotheses.
There are big problems with the gravitational collapse of gas clouds that can be deemed as impossible on thermodynamic/ideal gas law grounds, so the first problem for any star formation hypothesis is how you confine and compress matter, and I wasn't that clear how LMH was doing this apart from the condensation mechanism that would probably work better if material was dense and compressed (in LMH gravitational collapse of gas without the presence of condensed matter is not allowed). That's another big benefit of EU because Birkeland currents/Z pinches gives you a compression that does not require gravitational collapse. So, where my mind was heading was whether there could be a composite model in which the universe was EU but the star are LMH. Is that ridicolous?
Thanks galaxy12 for the detailed input. I ask because I really liked the LMH model, but I am also quite compelled by the EU model due to the filamentary structure of the universe etc, galaxy rotation problems etc. Yet, although I know Robitaille has presented at EU conferences he is clearly not, himself, advocating EU, and his model looks very incompatible with it because the electric sun shares a gaseous plasma structure with the SSM. In my mind, I'm still have problems separating EU from the electric sun model, but I suppose they can/should be treated as separate hypotheses.
There are big problems with the gravitational collapse of gas clouds that can be deemed as impossible on thermodynamic/ideal gas law grounds, so the first problem for any star formation hypothesis is how you confine and compress matter, and I wasn't that clear how LMH was doing this apart from the condensation mechanism that would probably work better if material was dense and compressed (in LMH gravitational collapse of gas without the presence of condensed matter is not allowed). That's another big benefit of EU because Birkeland currents/Z pinches gives you a compression that does not require gravitational collapse. So, where my mind was heading was whether there could be a composite model in which the universe was EU but the star are LMH. Is that ridicolous?