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Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by JHL » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:55 pm

BeAChooser wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:14 am“As the cosmic web dictates the motion of all matter in galaxies and inter-galactic media through gravity, knowing the distribution of dark matter is essential for studying the large-scale structure.”

“However, the cosmic web’s detailed structure is unknown because it is dominated by dark matter and warm-hot inter-galactic media, both of which are hard to trace.”
I'm reminded of the famous quote attributed to Jean Jacques Rousseau, “God created man in his own image. And man, being a gentleman, returned the favor.” (Wherein G-d, being inherently unknown, may not rationally comprise a factor in anything except as an image in the mind.)

And note the disconnect in the quoted portion: 1) There is a web of cosmos that somehow dictates its own motion, 2) surely gravity is that sole motivation but gravity is not a willing partner, however, therefore 3) let's create one for it.

QED, gravity has been repaired post hoc ergo propter hoc and technically we have zero evidence of how. Science!

I'd like to see an even-handed and exhaustive exploration of the phenomena that produces a conjecture and then back-extrapolates a theory from which is derived a set of mathematics, the whole thing then becoming "science". Just as the Big Bang was invented from a need to explain Genesis - although not without various supporting snippets from Einstein, Darwin, et al - the DM apparition can't be separated from its own obvious structure in order to explain either it: It was a conjecture that grew into a theory and then into a relatively simple mathematical framework.

What's that called, that reverse-proof of the ad hoc explanation? Seems we'd be a little more circumspect when we can't even explain what a particle is, why it's eternally faithful to its so-called laws, and how it interacts. Where it came from and by what motive is a fool's errand.

So naturally, just like DM, we leap to it, even building entire industries around it.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by dren » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:18 pm

Dark matter: Extra-dimensional 'dark force' could crack universe's biggest mystery - study

DARK MATTER researchers have proposed a radical new theory that could explain why we cannot see or interact with dark matter - the most abundant substance in the universe.
Dark matter has eluded scientists for close to a century now after astronomers first posited the presence of "missing matter" in space when observing nearby galaxies in the 1930s. Today, we know dark matter accounts for about 85 percent of all the material in the universe, and yet, we have never seen or interacted with the substance. Dark matter is considered "dark" because it does not emit light or directly interact with radiation in any meaningful way.
We cannot interact with DM yet DM interacts with everything. Seems logical...

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:10 am

The above new gnome is sure getting a lot of airplay ...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... -study-evg
Dark matter: Extra-dimensional 'dark force' could crack universe's biggest mystery - study

DARK MATTER researchers have proposed a radical new theory that could explain why we cannot see or interact with dark matter - the most abundant substance in the universe.
Yes, folks, a gnome explains why after 50 years of searching astrophysicists have failed to confirm another gnome.
Dark matter has eluded scientists for close to a century now after astronomers first posited the presence of "missing matter" in space when observing nearby galaxies in the 1930s. Today, we know dark matter accounts for about 85 percent of all the material in the universe, and yet, we have never seen or interacted with the substance. Dark matter is considered "dark" because it does not emit light or directly interact with radiation in any meaningful way.
And don’t you love how these idiots “KNOW”, with complete certainty, that dark matter accounts for 85 percent of all material … even though they’ve “never seen or interacted with the substance? This is what they call science. I call it religious dogmatism. And what is this new gnome? A “new ,extra-dimensional force” … that obviously they can't see or interact with.

And you wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere ... other than lining their pocket books with your tax dollars? :roll:

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:40 pm

Want another example of the quandary mainstream astrophysicists now find themselves in?

Just consider this statement, hot off the press, from the National Science Foundation …

https://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_su ... _id=302813
Scientists are certain that dark matter exists. Yet, after more than 50 years of searching, they still have no direct evidence of this mysterious substance.
You'd think that after 50 years of failure after failure at least a little doubt would have crept in ... suggesting they've confused certainty with dogmatism.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by crawler » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Brent72 wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:28 pm Yes. Einstein threw out ether so he could have his special relativity (his interpretation of MMX results). And SR underpins GR.
But now Einstein might himself be thrown out to get ‘ether/DM’ back again. Even if the ether/DM can’t be seen everywhere.
Maybe they’re getting the world ready to throw out Einstein because they know the data from the James Webb telescope will anyway..
Never mind the Flat Earth Society.
Einsteinists are the Flat Light Society.
They believe that c is constant.
And both Societies are willing to use silly argument.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by Michael Mozina » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:13 pm

BeAChooser wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:26 pm Michael, that assumes they don't massage the JWST data like they have the gravity wave and black hole data. They won't want to report what they really find. nd I believe the mainstream media and *scientific* journals would go along with such lies. Because otherwise they all have egg on their face and will all lose power, money and prestige. There is just too much evidence now that the meme (which promises more of all three of those things for them) is ALL that is important now. Science is DEAD as far they are concerned. They are no different than the folks who supported lyshenkoism in the USSR.
You might be right, but....

The problem for the mainstream is that they've bet the farm on galaxy and black hole evolution over time. They've already reached the limits of where quasars should exist and "mature" galaxies should exist in Hubble deep field images. The mainstream is already incapable of explaining these massive and mature objects based on their galaxy formation and black hole formation models. The problem for them is that if the universe is infinite and eternal, then JWST should also see quasars and jets, as well as mature galaxies at the very edge of it's capacity, in long duration deep field images at it's greatest redshift sensitivities.

At some point the concept of galaxy evolution and black hole evolution simply won't hold up to observational scrutiny and there won't be any way to hide it or ignore it anymore. We've technically reached that point already, but JWST will remove any doubt whatsoever IMO.

The concepts of galaxy evolution and black hole evolution over time are the two Achilles heals of all big bang models. One or two good JWST deep field images could ultimately destroy all big bang models.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:26 pm

Michael Mozina wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:14 pm I really think the JWST program is going to obliterate the BB model entirely. It's likely to see redshifted galaxies and quasars at the edge of it's capacities too, just like Hubble.
Michael, that assumes they don't massage the JWST data like they have the gravity wave and black hole data. They won't want to report what they really find. nd I believe the mainstream media and *scientific* journals would go along with such lies. Because otherwise they all have egg on their face and will all lose power, money and prestige. There is just too much evidence now that the meme (which promises more of all three of those things for them) is ALL that is important now. Science is DEAD as far they are concerned. They are no different than the folks who supported lyshenkoism in the USSR.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by Michael Mozina » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:14 pm

BeAChooser wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:51 pm And how desperate are astrophysicists these days?

The title of this SA article is a clue …

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... one-thing/
Maybe Dark Matter Is More Than One Thing. If so, it could explain some inconsistencies in our observations.
Call this the MANY GNOME THEORY OF THE UNIVERSE.
You got to hand it to astronomers when it comes to clinging to pure denial.

Typically speaking, any so called 'model' that begins with a gross violation of conservation laws of energy is simply rejected in physics. Over-unity machines are an automatic fail in physics. The very concept of "space expansion" however, violates conservation of energy laws *by design*. They're still clinging to the concept however, in spite of the fact that inelastic scattering and plasma redshit is a known process in plasma and violates no conservation of energy laws.

To keep the space expansion concept 'alive' for the past few decades they've had to add another 95 percent "metaphysical fudge factor" to the equations, relegating actual 'laboratory physics' to the realm of 'trivial influence' on the model.

Any *yet*, the whole thing continues to defy any predictive success. It's all postdicted nonsense that fails one 'test' after another after another.

I really think the JWST program is going to obliterate the BB model entirely. It's likely to see redshifted galaxies and quasars at the edge of it's capacities too, just like Hubble.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Sun May 30, 2021 9:51 pm

And how desperate are astrophysicists these days?

The title of this SA article is a clue …

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... one-thing/
Maybe Dark Matter Is More Than One Thing. If so, it could explain some inconsistencies in our observations.
Call this the MANY GNOME THEORY OF THE UNIVERSE.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by Brent72 » Fri May 28, 2021 10:28 pm

Yes. Einstein threw out ether so he could have his special relativity (his interpretation of MMX results). And SR underpins GR.
But now Einstein might himself be thrown out to get ‘ether/DM’ back again. Even if the ether/DM can’t be seen everywhere.
Maybe they’re getting the world ready to throw out Einstein because they know the data from the James Webb telescope will anyway..

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by Earl Sinclair » Fri May 28, 2021 3:06 pm

BeAChooser is quibbling over semantics, not physics. Dark Matter ® was invented to force the Universe into compliance with Accepted Theory ®, damnit. They have declared Dark Matter is by far-and-away the largest portion of matter in the universe, lately approaching 95%, I believe.

That's pretty damned ubiquitous. The DENSITY of said Dark Matter has to be placed correctly to get the effing Universe to match Accepted Theory. Don't you UNDERSTAND?? OUR EQUATIONS SAY IT MUST BE TRUE.


Earl

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Fri May 28, 2021 4:56 am

nick c wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:26 am But is it everywhere in the same amounts?
Yes. ZERO. (wink)

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by nick c » Fri May 28, 2021 12:26 am

BeAChooser,
But is it everywhere in the same amounts? That is, is it a universal medium? If so then it cannot account for gravitational anomalies like galactic rotation and interactions. If DM can clump, presumably due to gravity then how could it be a universal medium, the aether? If that were the case then the aether would behave just like the regular garden variety of matter. It would clump together. It does not solve the problem of "what is the aether?"
For example from one of your links:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicis ... -20201123/
But these detectors have stayed quiet, and physicists are increasingly contemplating a broader spectrum of possibilities. On the heavy end, they say the universe’s invisible matter could clump into black holes as heavy as stars. At the other extreme, dark matter could spread out in a fine mist of particles thousands of trillions of trillions of times lighter than electrons.
Note: It is not my intent to put you in the position of defending any of these propositions. It is of course more absurdity, which I believe is the message of this thread.

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by BeAChooser » Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pm

nick c wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:33 pm By contrast DM is postulated to be in designated places, that is, it is placed where needed to explain an apparent observational falsification of the gravity only paradigm.

It would be quite a leap to make DM into a universal medium, because then it would no longer explain things like anomalous galactic rotation etc.
Except the mainstream astrophysics community and their lackeys in the media have indeed told us DM is EVERYWHERE. Here are just a few examples ...

https://stfc.ukri.org/news-events-and-p ... rk-matter/ “10 Things You Need To Know About Dark Matter
23 October 2017 1. Dark matter is EVERYWHERE

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna46387769 “Physicists find dark matter: It's everywhere
A group of Japanese physicists has revealed where dark matter is — though not what it is — for the first time. As it turns out, the mysterious substance is almost everywhere, drooping throughout intergalactic space to form an all-encompassing web of matter. Feb. 14 2012"

https://news.dartmouth.edu/news/2017/09 ... everywhere "Dark Matter: You Can’t See It, But It’s Everywhere
September 25, 2017"

https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2018 ... rk-matter/ "Dark matter likely exists everywhere in the universe, and the Earth is perpetually flying through a diffuse cloud of this mysterious substance (Figure 1). Dark matter is not just “out there”—it is very much here and there and everywhere that you might ever go."

https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicis ... -20201123/ "Dark Matter Everywhere ... snip ... Many physicists expect dark matter to be as omnipresent as it is aloof."

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases ... 050521.php "However, since dark matter is everywhere, it exerts that force on everything, making it hard to measure this movement."

http://www.issibern.ch/PDF-Files/Spatium_7.pdf "International Space Science Institute May 2001 ... snip ... Dark matter is everywhere."

https://sanfordlab.org/press-release/sa ... r 13, 2020 ... snip ... This ubiquitous particle is everywhere, yet, so far, remains a mystery."

https://live.newscientist.com/2019-spea ... ark-matter "Scientists think that dark matter is everywhere, streaming through you as you read this right now. "

https://www.history.com/shows/the-unive ... /episode-6 "Dark Matter is everywhere. It passes through everything we know on earth at billions of particles every second, yet no one has ever gotten a direct detection of this mysterious dark substance."

Re: New Map of Local Dark Matter Reveals ‘Bridges’ between Galaxies

by nick c » Thu May 27, 2021 3:33 pm

But there is a huge difference that may prohibit that equation, DM = Aether.
The aether is postulated to be a universal medium, that is it is everywhere.
By contrast DM is postulated to be in designated places, that is, it is placed where needed to explain an apparent observational falsification of the gravity only paradigm.

It would be quite a leap to make DM into a universal medium, because then it would no longer explain things like anomalous galactic rotation etc.

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