Extinction of the Mammoth

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Re: Extinction of the Mammoth

by nick c » Thu May 23, 2024 1:46 am

The Woolly Mammoth's extinction has apparently been moved forward in time. They used to date the extinction to about 10K years ago. It is currently thought to have become extinct in the 3rd millennium BC (conventional chronology), which would make the species contemporary with the Old Kingdom of Egypt. However, many sources date the extinction to 10K years ago, and there may have been stragglers in such places as Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean.

However, there is also evidence from a 18th Dynasty New Kingdom tomb (1500 BC - 1290 BC) of a painting of what looks to be a wooly mammoth. The tomb is of an prominent Egyptian who was involved in the ivory trade. Now, certainly wooly mammoth tusks have been used as a source of ivory even into modern times. However, this picture definitely depicts a living animal on a leash along with some kind of nasty creature, maybe a bear? Note that the woolly mammoth was not an African or Egyptian creature, They lived in temperate and sub arctic climates around the world. Sources report that the mammoth was an Arctic Tundra creature. That is logical since that is where their frozen carcasses, skeletons, and tusks are found.

It is questionable that elephants could find enough food inside of the Arctic Circle, since they need vast quantities to survive. Ginenthal in "The Extinction of the Mammoth" (1997) sets the record straight. The plants found in the stomachs and the mouths of recovered frozen carcasses, do not grow inside of the Arctic Circle, the plants are of a sub Arctic or Temperate climate. The plants cannot grow inside of the Arctic Circle, not only because of the cold, but more importantly that they cannot survive in an environment where the Sun does not shine for 6 months of the year (photoperiodicity). And that is why those plants do not grow inside the Arctic Circle today.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle said, once you eliminate the impossible, what you are left with no matter how improbable, must be the truth. The answer is simple. There were enormous herds of mammoths that lived and grazed in a sub arctic or temperate environment, and during a cosmic catastrophe which caused a pole shift, they perished with food still in their mouths and their carcasses were transported into the Arctic Circle as the Earth's pole shifted. Since then they have never thawed and have been preserved to today.


http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2011/ ... moths.html
Egyptian Pygmy Wooly Mammoth.JPG
In the attachment I darkened the outline of the creature.

In the article they describe the mammoth as a dwarf or pygmy mammoth. There was a species of pygmy mammoth but they were still rather large animals as they could reach 6 ft tall and weigh in at over a ton, but that qualifies as a dwarf or pygmy by wooly mammoth standards. A large adult male mammoth could reach 13 ft tall and weigh in at 61/2 tons, similar in to an African elephant, The mammoth in the picture is not a baby because young mammoths do not have large curving tusks.

The tip offs that the picture is of a mammoth are the proportionately (to the body) large arcing tusks, the domed head, and the fur on the body. In the picture the brown areas are furry and the white areas are damaged parts of the painting.

As far as the size. It is important to remember that Egyptian artists did not depict people and animals according normal perspective, but rather importance (see the quote below). It is probable that the bear and the mammoth were much larger than depicted as the man for whom the tomb was made is the focus of the picture. He probably did not actually handle either of these creatures on a leash, but rather brought them to Egypt as curiosities, and the picture celebrated his fame for doing so.


from.....THE PRINCIPLES OF EGYPTIAN ART:
The sizes of figures were determined by their importance. The proportions of children did not change; they are just depicted smaller in scale. Servants and animals were usually shown in smaller scale. In order to clearly define the social hierarchy of a situation, figures were drawn to sizes based not on their distance from the painter’s point of view but on relative importance.
So we need to further reduce the date (in conventional chronology) to at least 1200 BC, possibly even later, since it is highly unlikely that this particulr specimen was the last mammoth.

Extinction of the Mammoth

by nick c » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:44 pm

Here is a fascinating article and comment found on the "Society for Interdisciplinary Synthesis" (SIS) website:

https://phys.org/news/2024-01-coal-mine ... earth.html

https://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/2024/ ... coal-mine/

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