by davesmith_au » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:59 pm
Arcmode wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:37 pm
Removed! lol
I wonder if they will contact me or anything.
Strange people.
NOT fun Arcmode, read on:
You'll find Wikipedia won't let anything "EU" stand for much more than an hour or two.
Going back a decade and a half, I spent untold hours abiding by their rules regarding sources, NOR, etc, trying to fix the atrocious bio they had on David Talbott. There were then two main players in the anti-EU game, and a whole bunch of plebs they used to drag in to discussions and disputes, to apply as much disinformation as they could. They eventually deleted Dave's bio completely. And a heap of other EU related material. They even did their best to discredit the IEEE.
Those two main players I mentioned were:
"Science Apologist" (IRL Joshua Schroeder) then a Princeton knobhead trying make a name for himself, clever at debating tactics and gaslighting, and colluding behind the scenes with others there to bully legitimate editors into submission/leaving. SA had participated in the forum back then, and interacted with DT, yet denied any COI (Conflict of Interest) though he was clearly antagonistic and disrespectful in his personal dealings with the person he claimed he had no COI with.
And "Phaedrus7" (IRL C. Leroy Ellenberger) who spent a good deal of his life "discrediting" anything even remotely Velikovsky related (after first being a "fan" of V). He was involved over many years in both private and public online discussions with DT, yet hid behind the anonymity Wikipedia afforded him, and W's anti-outing rules prevented exposing this fraudulent behaviour.
Now during the process of trying to factualize DT's BLP (Biography of a Living Person) I added a userpage on my own space, called "Pigwrestling" which had about 59 pages of chronological edits to DT's talk page. I did this without adding any commentary, none-the-less it was flagged for deletion as an "attack page" though all I was doing was collating discussions so that I could address them. I attacked precisely no-one, I offered no commentary, yet the arguments of those who sought to shut me down won the day, and my non-attack page was deleted.
My advice Arcmode, is don't go there. It is seriously not worth the effort you will put in for no gain. I have the removed Pigwrestling page (a 59 page pdf) if you want to take a look, you'll ned to go to your profile and email me, so I can email it back. Same goes for anyone else if interested (we can't share .pdf files on the forum).
For reference, here's the discussion about the deletion of my Pigwrestling page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... gwrestling
And here's my userpage on which you'll find my definition of the term "pigwrestling":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davesmith_au
Cheers, Dave.
[quote=Arcmode post_id=10000 time=1709757461 user_id=1000000283]
Removed! lol
I wonder if they will contact me or anything.
Strange people.
[/quote]
NOT fun Arcmode, read on:
You'll find Wikipedia won't let anything "EU" stand for much more than an hour or two.
Going back a decade and a half, I spent untold hours abiding by their rules regarding sources, NOR, etc, trying to fix the atrocious bio they had on David Talbott. There were then two main players in the anti-EU game, and a whole bunch of plebs they used to drag in to discussions and disputes, to apply as much disinformation as they could. They eventually deleted Dave's bio completely. And a heap of other EU related material. They even did their best to discredit the IEEE.
Those two main players I mentioned were:
"Science Apologist" (IRL Joshua Schroeder) then a Princeton knobhead trying make a name for himself, clever at debating tactics and gaslighting, and colluding behind the scenes with others there to bully legitimate editors into submission/leaving. SA had participated in the forum back then, and interacted with DT, yet denied any COI (Conflict of Interest) though he was clearly antagonistic and disrespectful in his personal dealings with the person he claimed he had no COI with.
And "Phaedrus7" (IRL C. Leroy Ellenberger) who spent a good deal of his life "discrediting" anything even remotely Velikovsky related (after first being a "fan" of V). He was involved over many years in both private and public online discussions with DT, yet hid behind the anonymity Wikipedia afforded him, and W's anti-outing rules prevented exposing this fraudulent behaviour.
Now during the process of trying to factualize DT's BLP (Biography of a Living Person) I added a userpage on my own space, called "Pigwrestling" which had about 59 pages of chronological edits to DT's talk page. I did this without adding any commentary, none-the-less it was flagged for deletion as an "attack page" though all I was doing was collating discussions so that I could address them. I attacked precisely no-one, I offered no commentary, yet the arguments of those who sought to shut me down won the day, and my non-attack page was deleted.
My advice Arcmode, is don't go there. It is seriously not worth the effort you will put in for no gain. I have the removed Pigwrestling page (a 59 page pdf) if you want to take a look, you'll ned to go to your profile and email me, so I can email it back. Same goes for anyone else if interested (we can't share .pdf files on the forum).
For reference, here's the discussion about the deletion of my Pigwrestling page:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Davesmith_au/pigwrestling[/url]
And here's my userpage on which you'll find my definition of the term "pigwrestling":
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davesmith_au[/url]
Cheers, Dave.