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Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Cargo » Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:31 am

I'm curious that nobody has jumped on this picture in my first link. It's obviously a genuine picture imho.
And the questions it raises are enormous. Segue to what we've learned from The Dark Sky and The Dark Moon. What wavelength, exposure time, filters, etc. I don't know anything else about this picture and haven't researched it.
But, zoom in 500% and do Relief More, and tell me you don't see the surface of the Sun-like. Except it can't be the Sun's surface, no way, Yet, there it is.
Then flip the colors around so you can see those large circle 'systems' which seem to stand out above the general chaos. Three of them

Are these not the most perfect mirrors man as created? Look at these 'reflections'?

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Cargo » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:41 am

Check it out. Who remembers the size of each hexagon mirror? :)
Supposedly NASA image used to 'check' the mirrors. The large black line shadow is one of the arms.
https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inli ... -38-37.png

For artists perspective
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-publi ... s/webb.jpg

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Cargo » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:36 am

Thank you very much Brigit. Section 4.7 says it all I think.
Basically they are using the reflection (wavefront) as their measuring tool and filter/adjustment for bad mirror spots. This mirror check runs every two days, so they are not sensing/monitoring actual impact, just the after effects in a 2-day window. Only 1 hit caused damage, the rest have been surface deformation. They only describe things in 'light' terms so it's hard to quantify physical properties. or maybe they really are holding these mirrors with nano-meter precision and the object hit them are 'micro' sized.

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by BeAChooser » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:54 am

Cargo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:30 am Since we're not going anywhere, check this out. It's the same type of fraud really. An Alzheimer Black Hole kind of fraud.
SHOCKING! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. My question is whether the 2 scientists, Sylvain Lesné and Karen Ashe, will suffer any consequences. If nothing else, Alzheimers patients and their families should sue the two for everything they're worth.

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Brigit » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:34 am

by Cargo » Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:15 pm
Cargo says, "It would be fun to know just what did hit it, and what the damage is. Do they count pixel's lost? Or is there also deformation in the mirror surface around a hole? or maybe no hole but a dent? What's the physical damage size; basketball, baseball, marble, or black peppercorn?"


Something about "178 nm average error." I snipped this image from the paper linked below.

It claims, in the image caption, that "the quality of mirror alignment is within the ~10 nm resolution of the sensing and control system." I think that is the size of the main damage, but there were other collisions.


ref: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2207/2207.05632.pdf

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Cargo » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:30 am

Since we're not going anywhere, check this out. It's the same type of fraud really. An Alzheimer Black Hole kind of fraud. It just takes one or few people to break the code.
Aduhelm was the first drug to be approved that fights the accumulation of those “amyloid plaques” in the brain. What makes the approval of the $56,000-a-dose drug so controversial...

clinical trials were suspended in 2019 after the treatment showed “no clinical benefits.”
Over the last two decades, Alzheimer’s drugs have been notable mostly for having a 99% failure rate in human trials...

The suspicion that something was more than a little wrong with the model that is getting almost all Alzheimer’s research funding ($1.6 billion in the last year alone) began with a fight over the drug Simufilam...

As Science reports, it was that investigator, Vanderbilt University neuroscientist and junior professor Matthew Schrag, who tipped over the whole applecart to discover that it wasn’t just that Cassava’s drug was ineffective. There’s good evidence that for the last 16 years, almost everyone has had the wrong idea about the cause of Alzheimer’s. Because of a fraud.
Imagine this in Astrophysics, get a box of tissues ready.
https://wallstreetpro.com/2022/07/23/tw ... -of-lives/

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Cargo » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:15 am

It would be fun to know just what did hit it, and what the damage is. Do they count pixel's lost? Or is there also deformation in the mirror surface around a hole? or maybe no hole but a dent? What's the physical damage size; basketball, baseball, marble, or black peppercorn?

Did they track the object that hit it, or did on-board sensors register an impact event?

I'd think they would have full-coverage mirror facing cameras for just this short of thing. Get a high-res pictures of the mirror faces for visual checking.
I would also have a protocol to mark any image data that was 'generated' by 'fill-in-the-blank' algorithms where the damage is.

I would also think, the smart people here already know that fraud is baked in to every NASA mission in one way or another. Have to keep the never ending story alive. And we're only hoping that something leaks out which can expose it.

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Brigit » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:41 pm

I meant there are black holes in the precise mirror instruments.

I still think we can infer there are black holes in the data, but it's just a way of wording it.

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by BeAChooser » Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:41 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62259492
Nasa's James Webb telescope reveals millions of galaxies

There were 10 times more galaxies just like our own Milky Way in the early Universe than previously thought.
Oh oh …. isn't that just what the EU predicted. I know one member of Thunderbolts predicted it.

Michael Mozina: "It will be interesting to see what ridiculous excuses they come up with to 'explain' all those "mature" distant galaxies they're going to find in the JWST deep field images. The whole concept of galaxy evolution over time has been shown to be false over and over again, yet they keep dreaming up ever more exotic 'excuses' to explain why their galaxy evolution model is a dismal failure."

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by jackokie » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:26 pm

Important announcement from NASA: The James Webb Telescope now has an official song-

Ronnie Milsap - "Any Day Now"
https://vimeo.com/350638062

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by BeAChooser » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:39 am

Brigit wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 am With all this buckshot in space hitting the mirrors, even you will have to admit there are black holes there, BeAChooser ! !
No, because a black hole would have sucked in the entire telescope ... not just damaged a mirror.

But, as ubiquitous as the mainstream claims black holes are ... it could happen any day now.

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Brigit » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 am

by BeAChooser » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:42 pm
Brigit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:19 pm
What they have announced they will do is fill in the disrupted results with modeled patches in the "images."
You mean the ones that show blackholes? (;

With all this buckshot in space hitting the mirrors, even you will have to admit there are black holes there, BeAChooser ! !

:cry:

): ):

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by BeAChooser » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:42 am

Brigit wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:19 am What they have announced they will do is fill in the disrupted results with modeled patches in the "images."
You mean the ones that show blackholes? ;)

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by Brigit » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:19 am

"A slightly larger than average micrometeorite officially hit one of the main mirrors on the telescope." And this is actually the 5th time it happened.

Does this mean the mission is over? No.

What they have announced they will do is fill in the disrupted results with modeled patches in the "images."

Re: Potential for more fraud with Webb

by BeAChooser » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:32 am

jackokie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:03 pm If we (EU) are correct, the JWT will show galaxies far past the supposed leading edge of the Big Bang.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 029517002/
The first image shows thousands of galaxies – including the faintest objects ever observed – which have appeared in Webb’s view for the first time. This is the deepest view of the cosmos ever captured. 
Here's the 10 BILLION dollar image ...

https://thedebrief.org/james-webb-space ... ite-house/
https://thedebrief.org/wp-content/uploa ... -Image.jpg

We’re looking back more than 13 billion years,” Nelson (BAC - NASA Administrator) said, remarking on the Webb telescope’s unique infrared imaging capabilities. “We’re going back almost to the beginning.”
Thousands of galaxies? Deepest view ever? More than 13 billion years ago? Oh oh?

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