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Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by Maol » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:46 am

What do you make of this? Multiple waterspouts, five at the same time. These pictures are from meteorologist Zack Fradella @ZackFradellaWx @FOX8NOLA

These waterspouts were spotted about 80 miles offshore the mouth of the Mississippi in the Gulf of Mexico 8-20-2020.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef5EWnIXgAA ... ame=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef5fVm7XsAA ... ame=medium

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:59 am

Still more stunning cloud formations that I've had no explanations for.

How does mainstream explain these macrostructures (these are continental in scale)?

How might EU theory explain them?

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:47 am

Thanks Cargo.

I find it interesting that the Saharan dust storms are "supressing tropical development" in the Atlantic. I wonder what intrinsic polarity Saharan dust has: I wager it is positively charged and this area is akin to the large patches of 'sputtered' cloud that appear in vast swathes across the planet.

You will even notice that the dust is following a very specific spacial region. Click the day forward/backward to note the progress.

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by Cargo » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:25 am

Check these amazing pictures out
https://strangesounds.org/2020/06/red-s ... tures.html

And another great video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tywRVXrvR0M

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:31 am

Is anyone at all able to explain this kind of stunning cloud formation pattern?

Zoom in a bit and you'd swear you were looking at a field of icebergs.

And to give more examples, why are there two distinct types of clouds near this sub-tropical low east of New Zealand? To me, it looks like positive and negative charge regions creating two unique types of cloud. The wind map is here (700hPa; same date and time).

You will find this same distinct sparse and patchy versus thick and filamentary cloud near almost every low pressure system. Here's another one, and a third in the northern hemisphere. Is this caused by differences in altutide, charge, or both/neither?

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by paladin17 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:09 pm

Robertus Maximus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:36 pm Eugene are you familiar with the works of the late Michael Csuzdi?

For example, 'Supernova Storms': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... ebFile.pdf
and: 'Cyclone and Anticyclone Storms': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... ebFile.pdf

Taken from 'The Electric Earth': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/
No, I haven't heard about him before. I'll take a look, thanks.

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:04 am

Robertus Maximus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:36 pm are you familiar with the works of the late Michael Csuzdi?
Wow! Totally downloaded all of Csuzdi's books!

This is amazingly helpful material!

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by Robertus Maximus » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:36 pm

paladin17 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:34 am "High" and "low" refers to pressure.
High pressure = anticyclone = downward motion of air masses + clockwise rotation in Northern hemisphere. Low pressure = cyclone (including strong cyclones - hurricanes etc.) = upward motion of air masses + counter-clockwise rotation in Northern hemisphere.
In the Southern hemisphere the rotation is reversed.

At the same time in lows the electric current (defined as the motion of positive charges, as usual) is moving upwards, charging the positive ionosphere, and in highs it's moving downwards, discharging it (so-called "fair weather return current"). As you can see, the current direction is correlated with the direction of motion of air masses, which is indeed what is observed (Burns' effect).

There are some hypotheses of how it can be governed electrically - e.g. see my talks at OTF2017 ("Turning the Magnetic Key") and OTF2018 ("Atmospheric structures in the Global Electric Circuit") conferences. Though so far they are exactly that - only hypotheses.
Eugene are you familiar with the works of the late Michael Csuzdi?

For example, 'Supernova Storms': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... ebFile.pdf
and: 'Cyclone and Anticyclone Storms': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/sitefil ... ebFile.pdf

Taken from 'The Electric Earth': http://breakthroughinenergy.com/

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by paladin17 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:28 pm

JP Michael wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:53 pm
paladin17 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:13 am (e.g. using World Magnetic Model)
I was looking for this kind of resource! Cheers. Does this resource assume a particular altitude for these fields? Obviously altitude is very important for clouds.
You can set altitude right there in the model.
Clouds are not so high, actually (0.5-15 km), so even surface magnetic field should be enough. This is a somewhat crude (large-scale) model though.
If you want more spatial precision (like crustal magnetization, local magnetic anomalies due to iron deposits etc.), then the other model may be better suited for that.
EDIT: the second model (EMM) data can also be taken at the fist link - just switch from WMM to EMM there.

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:53 pm

paladin17 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:13 am (e.g. using World Magnetic Model)
I was looking for this kind of resource! Cheers. Does this resource assume a particular altitude for these fields? Obviously altitude is very important for clouds.

I might focus on the south Atlantic magnetic anomaly. That seems like a very interesting area for this kind of data collection.

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by paladin17 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:13 am

JP Michael wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 12:15 pm
paladin17 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 am That doesn't seem to be the case. Can you provide some observational evidence?
Andy Hall is much better with those kind of explanations than I am, e.g. here. I'm waiting to see what kind of article he will put out next.
I wasn't asking for explanations, but for observational evidence.
If the basic hypothesis is that clouds align with local magnetic field, it should be fairly easy to prove. Pick an area, look for magnetic field direction in that area (e.g. using World Magnetic Model) and see if the cloud formations consistently follow it.
I simply don't see a point in building anything on top of that hypothesis if the hypothesis itself can be thoroughly researched and falsified in the first place

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by Cargo » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:09 pm

https://twitter.com/COweatherman/status ... 5337966592

In just two days, Washington State
a total of 86,714 #lightning events were detected by the National Lightning Detection Network. This is 61.8% of the annual average, more than were detected in ALL of 2016 (82,710), and 1/3 of what was detected last year (258,368)
The NLDN detected 119,639 total #lightning events across the two states yesterday. The annual average for Washington + Oregon is 439,635, so 27.2% of the annual lightning occurred in just 0.27% of the year!

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:41 am

"Scientists reveal energy exchange between troposphere and ionosphere in Congo basin."

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Sun May 31, 2020 7:55 am

There are some incredible filamentary cloud formations over the Indian Ocean at the moment in the vicinity of 40 S, 80 E. Truly stunning evidence of atmospheric current sheets.

Re: Electric Weather (cont.)

by JP Michael » Fri May 29, 2020 12:15 pm

paladin17 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 am That doesn't seem to be the case. Can you provide some observational evidence?
Andy Hall is much better with those kind of explanations than I am, e.g. here. I'm waiting to see what kind of article he will put out next.

In the meantime I will brush up on 3D geometry of current sheets and see if I can get some hypothetical observations from earth.nullschool.net combined with some satellite imagery/personal photographs.

It's not easy to observe things which are typically invisible, like magnetic field lines.

Andy argues the importance of water in the current sheet to form clouds (see link above). He supposes the significance of water has been significantly understated by modern physics models of meteorology. Water is the primary charge carrier in our lower atmosphere, according to Hall. I think I agree with that assessment.

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