Torsion Field vs EM Field vs Free Energy

[Lloyd]

- I'm more a conspiracy observer than a theorist. I think there is a fair share of fellow conspiracy observers on the forum. Maybe we need to have Conspiracy Pictures of the Day to show our evidence, like TPODs do.
- People are convicted of conspiracies all the time, but seldom the major conspirators. The major ones also put out a lot of false conspiracy claims in order to help discredit theories.
- I read too about Bush Sr being the Nazi who spied on Tesla. Webster Tarpley heard the supposed Skorzeny story and did some checking and found that neither George nor Barbara have birth certificates on record and there are other discrepancies in other records.

[Lloyd]

* Some interesting reading with lots of links. Maybe some will prove useful.
A Healed Planet, and the role of Free Energy - March 2009

--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth. - Wade Frazier:
... website, which is called http://ahealedplanet.net, has 1,200 pages. It is encyclopedic in its scope and it tells Wade’s story of a non-stop running skirmish with the whole issue of free energy. And you're taking to heart this, as a cause, which is very much what [former lunar astronaut] Brian O’Leary has done.
... what I’m looking forward to here in the next hour or so is a conversation primarily with Wade and Brian O’Leary, to talk about why free energy is something that we should care about, why it should be politicized, why it affects every corner of our lives.
- And for those people who have ventured into this area with practical intentions, it’s proved to be quite a dangerous path for them to tread....
- This is really what I would like to talk about. It isn’t going to be a technical conversation. It’s going to be a conversation about the paradigm shift that’s necessary for free energy to be ushered into this world in the 21st century.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/wade_fraz ... cript.html
* Audio: http://www.projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html
* Wade's experience with Dennis Lee and high-level corruption that suppressed innovation:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

[junglelord]

Well, the so called Roswell Vehicle is well represented by Testor it seems.
For those who know, Ben Rich, Clarence (Kelly) Johnson, John Andrews, are the big hitters of Skunkworks.
This is confirmed information from the top of Skunkworks.



Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft aka the WaveRider

The "General Composite of the Roswell Aerospace Interplanetary Skiff" is originated and forensically rendered from the testimony of multiple witnesses who were the retired United States Army Counter-Intelligence Corps atom bomb security agents guarding all atom bomb manufacturing, testing and deployment facilities in New Mexico from 1943 to 1951. Further and far more substantial testimony came from Clarence L. ("Kelly") Johnson and Dr. Ben R. Rich (both of whom were the now deceased founding CEOs of Lockheed Martin's famous "Skunk Works") as provided to Bill McDonald via the inter-mediation of the late John Andrews, Special Projects Chief Designer of the Testor Corporation. Kelly mentored Ben and John Andrews.

The spacecraft was a single, integrated, machine component; the originating inspiration for all high-altitude, hypersonic, "Waverider," aerosurf, "Biomorphic" aircraft and space shuttle configuration concepts. She mimicked the design forms of multiple sea animals including porpoises and stingrays. Her life support system and in-flight ballast was an oxygenated amniotic fluid-like broth with an advanced filtration system in the flight deck. She carried a crew of seven humanoids who interfaced with the vessel's artificial intelligence (AI) cortex directly, physically through the headrests of their individual crash-couches and their surrounding consoles. The organic minds of the flight crew are believed to have functioned as "multiple brain nodes" for distributed processing and navigation. They and the spacecraft functioned as a "combined biological organic/artificial life form and machine system."

TOP AIRCRAFT DESIGNER REPORTEDLY CONFIRMED ROSWELL

[CNI News thanks William Louis (Bill) McDonald for sharing this information,
which he acquired through private conversations with the late John Andrews of
the Testor Corporation. McDonald, a private investigator and forensic
composite illustrator who has made detailed reconstructions of the Roswell
UFO based on eyewitness testimony, worked closely with Andrews on the design
of Testor's Roswell UFO model kit which was released in July 1997 on the 50th
anniversary of the Roswell incident. Based on McDonald's original drawings,
Andrews developed the Roswell model piece by piece, and McDonald in turn
created blueprints which resulted in Testor's tooling for the kit. What began
as a business relationship evolved into a deep personal friendship. In time,
Andrews shared information that confirmed elements of McDonald's Roswell
investigation. Finally, McDonald says, he prevailed upon Andrews to ask
then-ailing Ben Rich, late head of Lockheed's "Skunkworks," to describe the
relationship, if any, between possibly recovered UFO materials at Roswell and
advances in aircraft design that occurred starting in the mid 1950s. McDonald
resolved to withhold the answers while Andrews remained alive. Andrews died
earlier this year of cancer.]

By William L. McDonald

Now that legendary Lockheed engineer and Chief model kit designer for the
Testor Corporation John Andrews is dead, I can announce that he personally
confirmed the design connection between the Roswell Spacecraft and the
Lockheed Martin Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs), spyplanes, Joint Strike
Fighters, and Space Shuttles. Andrews was a close personal friend of "Skunk
Works" CEO Ben Rich, the hand-picked successor of Skunk Works founder Kelly
Johnson and the man famous for the F-117 Nighthawk "Stealth" fighter, its
half-pint prototype the HAVE BLUE, and the top secret F-19 Stealth
Interceptor. Before Rich died of cancer, Andrews took my questions to him.
Rich confirmed:

1. There are two types of UFOs -- the ones we build, and ones THEY build. We
learned from both crash retrievals and actual "Hand-me-downs." The Government
knew, and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that
information. After a 1969 Nixon "Purge", administration was handled by an
international board of directors in the private sector.

2. "'An' item" -- as opposed to "'The' item" -- was recovered near the
world's only combat operational atom bomb base (Roswell AAF) in 1947. Hull
design, aerodynamic measurements and propulsion info was passed directly to
Jack Northrop and Kelly Johnson, beginning in 1950, with a major block of
data being passed on from "The Working Group" at Wright Patterson AFB's
Foreign Technologies Division in 1952. "'The' item" refers to the top secret
designation of Kelly's original variant of the U-2 (TR-1) spy plane in
Congressional and Pentagon budgets in the 1950s.

3. Nearly all "Biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell
spacecraft, from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and
aerospace craft.

4. The inward canted vertical stabilizers of the F-19, the HAVE BLUE, many
drones, some UCAVs, and the SR-71 matched the 30 degree inward cant of the
Roswell spacecraft's shark fin-shaped pair of verticle stabilizers or
"Winglets." The same goes for the wing camber to fusilage "Blend" of the
airframe designs.

5. The outward cants of the F-22 Raptor, the F-117, the McDonnell Douglas
YF-23, and the TACIT BLUE stealth concept prototypes perform similar
aerodynamic functions for stability in high performance flight.

6. Rich observed that the impression Kelly Johnson's contacts had [of "Them"]
was negative, and Kelly implied in rare conversations on the subject that
"Factions" from "Out there" were a threat more than they were a blessing, and
that the cost of having "Them" around was "Unimaginable" and "Unbelievable."

7. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told. He believed
they could not handle the truth, ever. Only in the last months of his decline
did he begin to feel that the "International corporate board of directors"
dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger problem to citizens'
personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of
offworld visitors themselves.

Andrews passed this information on to me in stages, from 1994 until my last
phone conversation with him around the Christmas holidays of 1998.

[Bill McDonald's work was featured in the SHOWTIME telefilm "Roswell."
Recently he created reconstructions of the faces of two skulls being studied
by Lloyd Pye --The "StarChild" Project. Bill and his wife Lori also
administer a discussion forum at AlienUFO@OneList. Persons interested in
joining the discussion forum can do so via the McDonald's home page
(http://www.AlienUFOart.com) by clicking on the ONELIST button. Email:
Argonaut-GreyWolf@home.com. Phone/fax: (949) 496-8489]

August 1999


Under contract, all copyrights for the "General Composite of the Roswell Interplanetary Skiff" reverted back to forensic illustrator William Louis ("Bill") McDonald Sr. in July of 2000 from the Testor Corporation. Copyright 1995, William Louis ("Bill") McDonald Sr. (e-mail Bill: Argonaut-greywolf@cox.net )

One can clearly see the similarities between the information from eye witnesses and the future SR/71 Black Bird, B2 Stealth Bomber and the Stealth Fighter and the Testors Roswell Craft. Concering your post Loyd, about a spiritual aspect of consciousness.... Indeed the conscious field is mentioned as a singularity with the craft, the occupants and the way it was designed to operated via AI (artificial intelligence_). It seems that both the mental and spiritual aspects are involved. Concering spirituallity, Its clear that the NAZI machine was a satanic intellect.

I am sure that after watching the Documentary Channel the other day about the German Bell that Einstein, Klauza, and the UFT were of great interest to the NAZI machine, which under Project PaperClip, was transferred to the USA. Its hard to seperate where the NAZI drive to achieve ended and Project PaperClip begins....which means it stayed Top Secret.

However do not be deceived, the truth is out there...
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/index.html

[junglelord]

Take a good long hard look at the data set, then decide if your being held back....

Energy Density of the Vacuum

The energy density of the vacuum potential is enormous, even mind-boggling. While scientists have estimated that energy by various means, a reasonable calculation is given by Wheeler and Misner in their Geometrodynamics. In that calculation, Wheeler and Misner apply the formalism of general relativity to the zero point energy of vacuum. The fabric of space appears as a turbulent virtual plasma consisting of particles whose size is on the order of Planck's length—some 10 -33 cm. The energy density of the electric flux passing through each particle is enormous: It is 1093 grams per cubic centimeter, expressed in mass units (i.e., the energy per cubic centimeter has been divided by c2).

And that's just using the spatial energy density (the “decompressed” or ordinary energy). The energy density of the vacuum is appreciably greater than what physicists normally calculate, because they do not calculate the additional time-energy density portion of the vacuum stress. If we also allow for the time-energy (the “compressed” energy), we restore that c2 division factor, producing on the order of 10110 grams per cubic centimeter, or—in energy terms—on the order of 10127 joules per cubic centimeter.


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J. A. Wheeler and C. Misner, Geometrodynamics, Academic Press, New York, 1962.


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Tom Bearden comments:

There are many ways to extract energy from the seething vacuum. Unfortunately, at present our scientific community takes a bizarre stance. In particle physics it is well known that the active vacuum is incredibly energetic. Calculations by leading physicists such as Wheeler show that a cubic centimeter of vacuum (about the tip of one's little finger in volume) has so much raw energy in it that, if condensed into matter, there would be more matter than is observable in the universe through the largest telescope! So even a tiny efficiency of tapping could and will extract all the energy anyone could wish.


However, in classical Maxwell Heaviside electrodynamics (as used in electrical engineering), the same scientific community now assumes in the model that the vacuum is absolutely inert!
The model also assumes that the local spacetime is flat, so no energy from curved spacetime can be forthcoming, according to that inane model. Then the model assumes that all EM fields, potentials, and every joule of EM energy in the universe is produced by their associated source charges—right out of nothing at all, with no energy input to the charge at all, but with continuous energy flow from it.
http://www.cheniere.org/references/ener ... vacuum.htm

[Lloyd]

* So, what's the simplest process for starting to tap that energy? What's the first step that needs to be taken?

[junglelord]

I believe that the work by David Serada has some merits, when he took notice of the asymmetry of nature. This he claimed is the Zero Point inductance field. I also believe that the Hutchinson Effect is clearly a resonance b/t ES and EM.
I would also further a guess that opposite rotating magnetic fields would be of benefit.
I would go further and believe that a murcury rotating plasma vortex could lead into some exotic effects.
TT Brown showed us that the positive charge creates a gravity well, the negitive charge a gravity hill.
I think that there are multiple ways to achieve ways to couple to gravity, aether, ZPE.

[scotty]

Tesla wrote...
To illustrate, let me mention here two widely different experiments of mine. In one the body of a person was subjected to the rapidly-alternating pressure of an electrical oscillator of two and a half million volts; in the other a small incandescent lamp was lighted by means of a resonant circuit grounded on one end, all the energy being drawn through the earth electrified from a distant transmitter.

The first presents a sight marvellous and unforgettable. One sees the experimenter standing on a big sheet of fierce, blinding flame, his whole body enveloped in a mass of phosphorescent wriggling streamers like the tentacles of an octopus. Bundles of light stick out from his spine. As he stretches out the arms, thus forcing the electric fluid outwardly, roaring tongues of fire leap from his fingertips. Objects in his vicinity bristle with rays, emit musical notes, glow, grow hot. He is the centre of still more curious actions, which are invisible. At each throb of the electric force myriads of minute projectiles are shot off from him with such velocities as to pass through the adjoining walls. He is in turn being violently bombarded by the surrounding air and dust. He experiences sensations which are indescribable.

A layman, after witnessing this stupendous and incredible spectacle, will think little of the second modest exhibit. But the expert will not be deceived. He realizes at once that the second experiment is ever so much more difficult to perform and immensely more consequential. He knows that to make the little filament glow, the entire surface of the planet, two hundred million square miles, must be strongly electrified. This calls for peculiar electrical activities, hundreds of times greater than those involved in the lighting of an arc lamp through the human body. What impresses him most, however, is the knowledge that the little lamp will spring into the same brilliancy anywhere on the globe, there being no appreciable diminution of the effect with the increase of distance from the transmitter.

This is a fact of overwhelming importance, pointing with certitude to the final and lasting solution of all the great social, industrial, financial, philanthropic, international, and other problems confronting humanity, a solution of which will be brought about by the complete annihilation of distance in the conveyance of intelligence, transport of bodies and materials, and the transmission of the energy necessary to man's existence.

The discovery of the stationary terrestrial waves, showing that, despite its vast extent, the entire planet can be thrown into resonant vibration like a little tuning fork; that electrical oscillations suited to its physical properties and dimensions pass through it unimpeded, in strict obedience to a simple mathematical law, has proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that the earth, considered as a channel for conveying electrical energy, even in such delicate and complex transmissions as human speech or musical composition, is infinitely superior to a wire or cable, however well designed.

Nikola Tesla...Tuned lightning.

[junglelord]

Tesla said that the earth was a hollow copper sphere.
I believe him, in so much as it operates as one.



I found this information today while looking at UFO material.
http://www.earthtech.org/
February 2009: An extended version of an earlier report on the reaction-free trajectories of a classical point charge posits a classical analogue of the Fermionic vacuum of QFT, like the classical analogue of the EM ZPF that is characteristic of Stochastic Electrodynamics. The new paper was submitted to Foundations of Physics and posted to the archive

This was the link
http://arxiv.org/abs/0705.1877

The reaction-free trajectories of a classical point charge
Authors: M. Ibison
(Submitted on 14 May 2007 (v1), last revised 6 Feb 2009 (this version, v3))
Abstract: It is well-known that a classical point charge in 1+1 D hyperbolic motion in space and time is reaction-free. But this is a special case of a larger set of reaction-free trajectories that in general are curved paths through space, i.e. in 2+1 D. This note catalogs the full family of reaction-free trajectories, giving a geometrical interpretation by which means the curved path possibility is easily related to the better known case of hyperbolic motion in 1+1 D. Motivated by the geometry, it is shown how the catalog of motions can be naturally extended to include the possibility of lossless reaction-free closed spatial orbits that turn out to be classical pair creation and destruction events. The extended theory can accommodate a vacuum plenum of classical current that could be regarded as a classical version of the Fermionic ZPF of QFT, reminiscent of the relationship between the Electromagnetic ZPF and the classical imitation that characterizes `Stochastic Electrodynamics'.

which led me to look up Stochastic Electrodynamics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_electrodynamics

Things look very interesting.
My entire brain just floods with images and motions.

[Lloyd]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_electrodynamics

Starting with the 1994 paper in the Physical Review Inertia as a zero-point field reaction force, Bernard Haisch and Alfonso Rueda, sometimes joined by Harold E. Puthoff, have championed the notion that the inertia of a massive object may arise via an electromagnetic reaction force via interaction with the zero point field. This builds upon a much earlier proposal by Walther Nernst. In their non-technical papers Haisch and Rueda speculated that someday control of inertia might be possible.

* That's a pretty interesting quote; ain't it? What's the zero-point field? Is it the electric or magnetic field? What's the zero-point field reaction force? Is it electrical or magnetic force? Is it the same as the mentioned electromagnetic reaction force? How could this control inertia? How much could inertia be controlled? Does it mean a massive object could then go at rapid speed in one direction and instantly change direction by as much as 180 degrees. Like a UFO? How massive an object could be made to do that? Where can we start building these things?