Magnetically powered motors w/o electricity

[nikolatesla]

I've read a number of info sites stating that it is impossible to get free energy from magnets;
http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magfree.htm

But here is a youtube video that seems pretty straightforward and not a scam;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=ch ... HBh0&gl=US

If the video is not a put-on, the guy makes a wheel spin only with magnets.

There is a lot of talk on youtube about using various sorts of 'shielding' for magnetic motors to get them to run better or run at all.

Here is a Q&A on shielding and magnets;
http://www.mushield.com/faq.shtml#q10

One of the paragraphs says;
Can I shield one magnet from another?
No. There is no such thing as a magnetic insulating material. High permeability material works to shield from magnetic interference by attracting and diverting the field through itself. The only way in which to halt the attractive or repulsive forces between two magnets is to separate them by the distance proportional to their respective magnetic field strengths.

I'll fast-forward past all the hype and get to my basic question.
What is the EU take on using magnets only to make motors run?

What is the EU understanding on magnets and magnetism in general?

[kevin]

nikolatesla,
One of My heroes.
I would suggest that the magnets are nothing but facilitators of a local field of aether , the aether permeates all, the aether has polarity and thus attraction and repulsion are created.
the aether field creates a magnetic field north to south, and an electrical field around its equator, the gravity will be created perpendiculer to those two.
You will therefore locally create electricity, magnetism and an altered gravity direction, imo.
kevin

[lizzie]

Kevin said: the aether field creates a magnetic field north to south, and an electrical field around its equator, the gravity will be created perpendiculer to those two. You will therefore locally create electricity, magnetism and an altered gravity direction.

http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/1/26keely.html

He (Keely) showed that "the sympathetic streams of energy are composed of triple currents of vibratory flow. This applies to magnetic, electric, gravital and cerebelic (brain and mind) flows... Since these flows are vibrational in nature and are tuned to their respective spheres, Keely believed this was the basis for the term "music of the spheres".

Gravity is actually a triple connective radiation rather than a flow. It is an eternally existing force entering all forms of matter. Keely believed that gravity is the basic source from which all matter emerges.

Keely called the stream coming into the earth at the poles from the sun the "polar stream". The 3 currents in this polar stream are magnetism, electricity and gravity".

[junglelord]

nikolatesla,
One of My heroes.
I would suggest that the magnets are nothing but facilitators of a local field of aether , the aether permeates all, the aether has polarity and thus attraction and repulsion are created.
the aether field creates a magnetic field north to south, and an electrical field around its equator, the gravity will be created perpendiculer to those two.
You will therefore locally create electricity, magnetism and an altered gravity direction, imo.
kevin

Bang on dude.
Aether is a rotating magnetic field.


I am looking at a device that will power the home.
It was on Dragons Den, a canadian show for inventors.
One of the panel invested right away in his product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfi9ZpX ... 1&index=28

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My uncle just sent the inventor an email.
I am looking to buy a unit for my house.

[Tone]

Looking forward to hear more Junglelord.
I wanna share 2 videos:

Video 1: Obama to Disclose X-Files on Anti-Gravity Technology?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAVCYNdPi4

and,
Something I posted June 2008 on my Swedish blog, (one of my hangouts)
think you will find the content interesting Junglelord...
http://sunnely.blogg.se/2008/june/hemli ... nergi.html
('Secrets about Free Energy')
- now I have 'introduced' myself a little bit, by giving out my bloglink
but I will share more with you Junglelord... as time goes by... (that I havent gone public with yet.)
I have found remarkable syncromysteries between yours and mine posts,
and I think its a good time now this spring to say hi, and show you/PM you, when we synk up.

Directlink to the video since mine on the blog is malfunctioning:
UFO Alien Disclosure Project - part 13 'Why the Secrecy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qPttfWNnY

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Right now Im into this Junglelord...
http://tribes.tribe.net/sunnelysrestart ... 6d972fe99c

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[GaryN]

Beyond belief would have to be my first response. And if he is on to something, then the first units he sells will be taken apart and analysed by the top engineers in the world. I will not totally discount his claims, there will always be the Utopian in me that wants to believe, but I've been disappointed every time so far. Of course he wants to make money out of this, but if it was me, I'd put the designs on the internet, mail them to everyone I could, do whatever to ensure that this could never be covered up. Altruism would always be my first intention.
Anyway, back to work here, I'm trying to perturb the Bloch wall in my alnico magnets, hoping to collapse the magnetic field, or even reverse it, momentarily. If I ever get it to work, I'll let you know.

[Tone]

Gary - question, did you even WATCH the videos I posted?

[Solar]

... but if it was me, I'd put the designs on the internet, mail them to everyone I could, do whatever to ensure that this could never be covered up. Altruism would always be my first intention.

That's one of the things that I like about the Bedini Motor. The plans are readily available and several people have built them. I like this vid because of its quality:

JR1-Bedini Motor

Clearly not enough info on the vid from Dragon's Den as to how the device works. But some of these "over unity" devices actually work. However, things like "cap & trade" will ensure that none of them are ever developed beyond hobby status. There is far too much $$ to be bilked out of companies and passed on to consumers in the form of taxes than to actually fix a problem that constantly gets complained about.

What most people are completely unaware of is that this technology, or a variant of it, is in use. Right now. Today. From Harold Aspden's "Creation the Physical Truth":

However, the message is one which says: 'Focus attention on technology which involves setting up an electric field inducing aether charge displacement radial from and axis appropriately oriented in space.'

Then look at those diagrams and photographs pertaining to the free energy generators of the Methernitha community in Switzerland, the scientist of which are withholding the secret of their operation.

Methernitha and their Testatika Machine.

[junglelord]

http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm

[GaryN]

Tone posted:

Gary - question, did you even WATCH the videos I posted?

Hi Tone, yes, I did watch them. Where is my urban cruiser that needs no fuel?

Obama has kept NONE of his pre-election promises.

Don't get the idea I dont believe in UFOs. I saw my first UFO, the classic disk, 30 ft dia at about 150 ft elevation, came right over my house, in England, in daylight. I was 13 years old (1965) at the time, on my way to my paper route. Here in Canada, a black triangle craft, I estimate 60-75 feet wide, came right over my car, less than 200ft elevation, dusk, late Aug 2000. 1 big bright light, small red white and blue lights at the extremeties. No noise with either sighting. About 6 months ago, a blue-white light, at least twice the size of Venus, heading west to east, height unknown, 5 times the speed of a plane (at 30k ft) or satellite. It slowed and stopped for about 3 seconds, while another, much smaller light heading south to north, turned in a smooth arc toward the bigger light, which then smoothly accelerated, and they both headed off to the east. I don't need convincing about the existence of UFOs, I just want to know WHO is controlling them! There, I came out of the closet, derision not unexpected.

Solar mentioned the Bedini motor.(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU10XJn6 ... re=related) It has a battery connected. Why is it I have not seen a device that can feed its output back to its input, while giving out extra power?

And the Testatika device? I remember that from years ago, but again wrote it off. Keeping 'secrets' is what cults (in the negative sense) do. The device also has, according to the diagram, 'hidden wires' in the wooden base. Very synical tonight, aren't I?

[Tone]

Gary - thanks for sharing, interesting. And may I say, a very nice 'report' of the event,
reminds me of the reports I read in Major Donald E. Keyhoe's book:
('Flying Saucers are Real') or should I say so far, havent read it all yet.
Managed to find an original ex. directly from 1950's swedish printer in an old used books-store (antikvariat) -
not even 'cut open' between the pages!! It waited for me to find it for approx 58 years Cool!

Im gonna try to do a quote as an answer to your question on WHO might 'control' 'them',
according to what is written about Major Donald E. Keyhoe:

The more he investigated, the more he became convinced that the UFOs were nothing from this planet, apparently coming from outer space. He concluded that the Air Force had to know this and were covering up the truth.

His article "Flying Saucers Are Real" in the January 1950 issue of True became one of the most widely read and discussed articles in publishing history, and caused a sensation. The article was expanded into a paperback book The Flying Saucers Are Real (New York: Fawcett, 1950) and reached an even wider audience. This was followed by the major hardcover books Flying Saucers From Outer Space (1953), Flying Saucer Conspiracy (1955), and Flying Saucers: Top Secret (1960).

In January 1957 Keyhoe had become Director of the newly formed National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) in Washington, D.C., which under his leadership gave serious publicity to the UFO mystery through the 1960s and encouraged Congressional hearings.

His last book Aliens From Space was published in 1973. By this time Keyhoe had become convinced that the Central Intelligence Agency was the principal agency behind the cover-up.

http://www.hallrichard.com/keyhoe.htm

and

After some investigation, Keyhoe became convinced that the flying saucers were real. As their forms, flight maneuvers, speeds and light technology was apparently far ahead of any nation's developments, Keyhoe became convinced that they must be the products of unearthly intelligences, and that the U.S. government was trying to suppress the whole truth about the subject. This conclusion was based especially on the response Keyhoe found when he quizzed various officials about flying saucers. He was told there was nothing to the subject, yet was simultaneously denied access to saucer-related documents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keyhoe

WHY do mankind keep secrets? The 'starvisitors' really arent so secret ; )

Please find enclosed link to MAJESTIC TOP SECRET Document: 'Letter from Oppenheimer and Einstein'
dated June 1947. 'Relationships with Inhabitants of Celestrial Bodies' -
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5396697/Majes ... -Einstein#
(the title sounds like a romantic novel about Galactic Princess meeting a Terra Firm'ian, and its implications..)

I also have this image of article from AIR FORCE, claiming 'UFO's are from other planets'
http://tribes.tribe.net/sunnelysrestart ... b692f098cb

As for politics and promises, its like water and oil - needs a little shake around; the system is there to TRANSFORM humanity,
not keep it in under lock and chain as its been pretty much so far, too departmentalised and basically a dysfunctional institution.
Change IS happening, according to me; Fast. If you just read the right articles you get feedback daily on that.

Control issues has always been linked to power and secrecy, and fear of loosing control - it takes balls to dare open up.
I am pleased to see that some men dare lead the way in showing how to be a REAL alpha -
no matter if they are part of a society / club / cult / party / culture / country.

As for magnetic, power and motors - ATTRACTION is probably a stronger force then repelling?

[earls]

His hand is the energy input.

[bdw000]

Two or three years ago there was some Russian guy (dont' remember the name) on youtube with a spinning plastic wheel full of magnets. The video looked impressive.

I had a friend who looked into it because he thought would change everything. Later he told me that the video was no gimmick, but that the final word on the device was that the magnets wore out very quickly, due to the "shielding," or opposition between magnets, within hours or days. The cost of replacing the magnets so frequently would render any size device useless.

This is all just second hand ( I cannot vouch personally for any of it). But so often that is just how things work out.

[junglelord]

I have no doubt the CIA is part of the agenda that is holding us back.
The creation of the CIA, NSA, was right on the tail of Roswell by about two or three months.

[nikolatesla]

Thank you to everyone for your input.
Short Circuit movie robot: "More input, Stephanie!"

Okay, I gave a link to the video about the toy that worked on magnets, and it did appear to work.
Now let's pin a few thoughts down.

Here is the Perendev magnetic motor video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=ch ... ZSyw&gl=US

To bdw000; the idea that the Perendev motor would 'wear out' its magnets does not make sense to me.

The known ways for a neodymium magnet to lose its magnetic field effect are as follows, as per this FAQ;
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp#temperature
Quote:

#19. Do I have to worry about temperature with neodymium magnets?
Yes. Neodymium Iron Boron magnets are sensitive to heat. If a magnet heated above its maximum operating temperature (176°F (80°C) for standard N grades) the magnet will permanently lose a fraction of its magnetic strength. If they are heated above their Curie temperature (590°F (310°C) for standard N grades), they will lose all of their magnetic properties. Different grades of neodymium different maximum operating and Curie temperatures.

#22. Will my neodymium magnets lose strength over time?
Very little. Neodymium magnets are the strongest and most permanent magnets known to man. If they are not overheated or physically damaged, neodymium magnets will lose less than 1% of their strength over 10 years - not enough for you to notice unless you have very sensitive measuring equipment. They won't even lose their strength if they are held in repelling or attracting positions with other magnets over long periods of time.

#23. Will neodymium magnets lose strength if they are held in repelling or attracting positions for a long time?
In most applications, the answer is simply "no". If the magnets will be exposed to higher temperatures while in repelling applications, the answer is "possibly". The exact answer is a bit too complicated for a FAQ answer, and requires specifics about the application.

What the FAQ says does NOT support is the suggestion that, quote, [the magnets wore out very quickly, due to the "shielding," or opposition between magnets, within hours or days.] (And thank you very much for that information.)

Why do I refuse to believe this? Because there is no suggestion that the rotor wheels heated up to the hundreds of degrees necessary to destroy their magnets' magnetism, and because they had not aged the hundreds of years necessary to lose their power. The plastic 'tufenol' wheels would go into meltdown before those magnets would even begin to lose their force.

I had looked up a few links and followed them to other links, and found this web site;
http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/s ... _Perendev/

where it was claimed, as I remember, that different machinists had made 1/4th and full-scale copies of the Perendev motor, and they failed to work. Then I recall the web site host claimed that he helped the inventor of the Perendev motor assemble one, and it would not work either.

Then the web site owner made a very peculiar remark. He said the Perendev motor inventor's claims were still unproven, and he had told the inventor people were beginning to discredit him. Then he said that the Perendev inventor replied that if people were to stop believing that his motor worked, that would actually work to his advantage.

This all seems to me like a game of 'Clue'. You know something? People lie. Or people can be deceived.

Who would benefit if the magnetic motor did work, but was 'proven' not to work?
Junglelord's comments seems not far from the mark on this one. Who benefits? Big Oil. NWO bozos. Various foreign powers. Etcetera etcetera.

If you will go to this youtube video index;
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Fre ... iew=videos
and check out the videos titled 'Demo Short: One Way Magnetic Shielding in Motion' Parts 1 and 2, the guy there says he has posted his video some 40 times, and violated no terms of use, and youtube keeps shutting him down and claiming he violated his terms of use.

What if there is a 'tissue of lies' being thrown up to prevent or discredit that magnetic motors, properly built ones, work?
It seems to me that youtube is full of unmolested videos showing magnetic motors that do not work. But when I look at them, I see they did not copy the plans correctly. Lots of 'evidence' that magnetic motors are a joke, and those videos discrediting the idea of a successful magnetic motor are being left alone.